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No, there is some confusion in some of the serial # discussion.

"8" (1988) "08" (August) "54" (54th bike built that month)

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Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 1306793)

Just acquired an unusual, and one presumes early, Davis Phinney Serotta. 60cm seat CTC, 58cm top tube CTC. Over-the-BB cable routing, red and black paint scheme. Serial is 80854, also has "C 69 E" on the edge of the bottom of the BB (raised, not stamped).

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Components are a mish-mash of Campy Record wheelset with 8 speeds (it's a Sachs and 130 OLD so one assumes it's a freehub, although the hub itself has no telltale freehub bulge), Shimano Tricolor crankset, FD and brakeset, and a DA 7402 RD and shifters. All of the components would therefore seem to be newer vintage than the frame.

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Did Serotta make Davis Phinneys as early as 1980? It doesn't have the later asymmetrical rear stays and they seem pretty straight to me.

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I've got a 2008 HSG IT (Carbon + Titanium). Number is HG 56 082

Serial number decode

can anyone help me trying to decode "TB 580 254"? thanks in advance!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/youngnam/8692287045/

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Originally Posted by swingmeister (Post 1339622)

can anyone help me trying to decode "TB 580 254"? thanks in advance!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/youngnam/8692287045/

Judging by the seat tube angle and the monostay, I'd say that's a Tri Colorado. The paint job was common in 1991 and 1992. It's a 58 cm.

Are you sure about the TB part? We can add it to the list if you're sure it's legible. I don't think the frame could be anything besides a Tri Colorado. Please verify that it has a tapered seat tube (larger diameter at BB than at seatpost). Thanks for giving us another one.

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Originally Posted by Kemsoff (Post 1330416)

I've got a 2008 HSG IT (Carbon + Titanium). Number is HG 56 082

Thanks. Could we see it?

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Originally Posted by oliver1850 (Post 1340297)

Thanks. Could we see it?

Here's a pic.. sorry about the reflection.

CC (yes for early CSI)

I have a filet brazed CSI with the serial number: CC63 767. 63x62c-c frame, filets on the front end and toptube seatcluster junction, lugs on top tube and bb. So, early CSI's for sure had CC serial numbers.

Club Special Serial Number

I'm looking at a Club Special in really good condition. My question is the serial number #5239. Is that a Serotta serial number? It doesn't have a year or Ben's initials. In addition, the the tops of seat stays don't have an "S" or "Serotta" engraved on them.

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Originally Posted by rodcad (Post 1356089)

That may be the way they designated custom CSIs. Yours sounds like a custom with those dimensions. You might get an idea on age by comparing your paint with descriptions in the catalogs.

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Originally Posted by sheh8me2 (Post 1356369)

What else identifies it as a Club? I'd say the serial number would make it a 1985 as it begins with 5, although others I've seen have had 1 more digit, like: 50239. Clubs were normally engraved, as stated in the 1985 catalog; perhaps it's a Nova.

I have a Legend Ti with the ST carbon stays from about 2006 it seems. The Serial starts with CLS. I don't see LS on the master chart. If it is a 2006, it's interesting to note that the Catalog calls it a Legend ST but the picture of the bike clearly says Legend Ti.

Thanks for the info on the Legend ST. I see what you mean about the catalog. Perhaps later STs got an updated model decal. Does yours say Ti or ST?

The decal just says Legend Ti.

Excuse the kind of poor picture but this is what I have:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...pseb603400.jpg

It seems only some models got different decals for the rear options. I looked at 2002 -2003 Ottrotts, which had 3 rear triagle options: ST, IT, DKS. Oddly, in 2003 the Concours CS has a CS TT decal, while the Ottrott and Legend STs have the same decals as their Ti stayed counterparts.