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Cat3roadracer 03-31-2016 09:31 AM

OT: Tesla Model 3
 
It even looks like a Jetta Wagen. Who is interested?

saab2000 03-31-2016 09:44 AM

I'd be interested. But I don't need supercar performance. I'd trade some 0-60 time for more range.

bloody sunday 03-31-2016 09:50 AM

saw a model x yesterday - looked really weird. Bloated model s

benb 03-31-2016 09:52 AM

Have they actually revealed anything or is it all still auto-mag speculation?

Possibly interested as my wife is driving a 10 year old car if it worked for her it'd be pretty great. She drives a lot but the Model S range is probably already good enough for her work days.

Cat3roadracer 03-31-2016 09:55 AM

To be introduced tonight 8:30pm Pacific time.

$1000 refundable deposit holds your spot in line. 2017 release date, not sure when exactly.

benb 03-31-2016 10:01 AM

I wonder how much the performance hurts the range. I get the impression that unlike cars with normal engines the high performance of electrics only actually hurts range if you are using the throttle liberally.

But if there really is a substantial range/performance tradeoff I would firmly be in the camp of reduced performance.

If the choice was 0-60 in 7 seconds and 350 or 400 miles of range vs 0-60 in 3 seconds and range of 200-250 I'd take the slower car every time. (I've gotten the 0-60 in 3 seconds thing out of my system a long time ago.)

FlashUNC 03-31-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by benb (Post 1947445)
I wonder how much the performance hurts the range. I get the impression that unlike cars with normal engines the high performance of electrics only actually hurts range if you are using the throttle liberally.

But if there really is a substantial range/performance tradeoff I would firmly be in the camp of reduced performance.

If the choice was 0-60 in 7 seconds and 350 or 400 miles of range vs 0-60 in 3 seconds and range of 200-250 I'd take the slower car every time. (I've gotten the 0-60 in 3 seconds thing out of my system a long time ago.)

Hate to burst the bubble, but internal combustion functions the same way. Driving with a lead foot will absolutely lead to more stops at the pump.

benb 03-31-2016 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 1947456)
Hate to burst the bubble, but internal combustion functions the same way. Driving with a lead foot will absolutely lead to more stops at the pump.

The effect is much worse on a gasoline engine, that was my point.

You could put a 4-liter 400HP V8 in a Civic or Corrolla and it would not get the same gas mileage as the current cars even if you drove it within the performance envelope of the current cars. Combustion engines operate efficiently within a much narrower range than electrics if I understand correctly.

josephr 03-31-2016 10:24 AM

Interested? Yep! Am I a realistic customer? Nope --- the infrastructure just isn't around here for a guy like me...I live in a condo unit so installing a charging station just isn't feasible, nor are there any charging stations at the office or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe one of these days???

mgm777 03-31-2016 11:35 AM

If Tesla can bring this to market for $35K, I am all in. Super psyched about this launch. A friend has had an "S" for 3 years and loves, loves, loves it! He has an "X" ordered for his wife. Based on my limited experience sitting in the passenger of his "S", I am very impressed.

livingminimal 03-31-2016 12:02 PM

I hate cars. I really hate cars. I loathe them. however, they're almost necessary in Southern California, especially with children.

I will absolutely be buying whatever the updated model of this one is in 3-5 years. An electric wagon (hopefully with better range than this one) is definitely our next family car.

likebikes 03-31-2016 12:20 PM

uhh, anyone got a picture?

Ken Robb 03-31-2016 12:55 PM

A pal who runs a "Green Teen" Driving School is standing in line now to put down his $1000 deposit at our local Tesla store. He is also a high-performance driving instructor in his "spare time" and will be picking up his BMW M2 in Munich in May.

He says the Tesla fits his eco-friendly school image and at $35,000 less $7,500 federal tax credit it will make economic sense as a training vehicle. The $7,500 is offered until Tesla reaches 200,000 total sales. Tthe hen there is a reduced amount until another sales milestone is reached and, I think, yet another reduced credit as sales mount. Some folks think the 200,000 goal may be reached soon after the introduction of this new model so buyers who delay committing may have to pay quite a bit more than the early birds. I suppose quite a few people putting down $1,000 today may be speculators with no plans to keep the Teslas. I don't know what steps if any Tesla may take to discourage flipping/speculation, selling one's place in line, etc.

denapista 03-31-2016 01:01 PM

Let me know when this one is released!

Best looking wagon EVER!

http://d25znxl852zxww.cloudfront.net...oder=freeimage

Cat3roadracer 03-31-2016 01:19 PM

Does anyone have information on the $7500 tax credit mentioned above? That would make the selling price quite attractive.


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