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Velocipede 03-09-2020 08:48 AM

Bixxis Pathos titanium frame
 
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The Bixxis Pathos is their titanium road bike. Handmade in Italy by Doriano De Rosa.

Made using a custom Reynolds double-butted tubeset and exquisitely tig welded, Doriano has created a do-it-all road frame. With custom oversized chainstays, offering the Pathos frame can handle a 700x28c tire easily. Custom 6/4 CNC machined dropouts continue to add stiffness and strength in its design. A 6/4 headtube, bottom bracket and small fitting are standard.

The Pathos is available in two toptube styles: traditional and sloping. With stock and custom geometry available. The Pathos uses a Chis King D11 headset as standard. With its longer head cup flanges for better rigidity. Yes, you can use a different headset. But with the color options and a lifetime warranty, would you want to?

The stock fork for the Prima is the Pegoretti FALZ. Designed by Dario Pegoretti and made exclusively for them, the FALZ has the looks of a classic steel crown with the lightweight and amazing ride and responsiveness of carbon.

Available in stock and custom geometry as well as stock and custom finishes, the Bixxis Pathos is a riders dream. Retail for the Pathos is $4750. This includes custom geometry and finishes within reason of course. Lead time is about 12 weeks currently. It will include a headset, seat collar, cable adjusters and a PMP Titanium seatpost.

We will have the Pathos in Booth 318 at NAHBS in August. Make sure to stop by to check it out and meet Doriano and Martina De Rosa.

Velocipede 03-09-2020 08:49 AM

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The Bixxis Pathos sizing charts for stock geometry.

Velocipede 03-09-2020 09:04 AM

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Probably my favorite finish on the Pathos. Very simple and clean looking. I love light blue with white panels so this is right up my alley.

AngryScientist 03-09-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 2670486)
The Bixxis Pathos sizing charts for stock geometry.

i'm guessing "height" and "length" refer to seat tube C-T and top tube C-C for the "regular and ETT for the slopers?

Velocipede 03-09-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist (Post 2670513)
i'm guessing "height" and "length" refer to seat tube C-T and top tube C-C for the "regular and ETT for the slopers?

Correct Sir. I need to redo their chart to read a bit easier. This is straight from them.

Velocipede 03-09-2020 05:13 PM

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The workmanship adding the leather panels is exquisite.

Velocipede 03-10-2020 06:50 AM

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drgonzo 03-10-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Velocipede (Post 2670494)
Probably my favorite finish on the Pathos. Very simple and clean looking. I love light blue with white panels so this is right up my alley.

Totally agree. Such an awesome look - just enough paint to stand out from every other Ti frame but not so much as to distract from the natural beauty of the metal or workmanship.

Velocipede 03-10-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by drgonzo (Post 2671234)
Totally agree. Such an awesome look - just enough paint to stand out from every other Ti frame but not so much as to distract from the natural beauty of the metal or workmanship.

Yep.

ERK55 03-10-2020 12:15 PM

One thing I’ve noted among various Italian builders: the geometry charts often don’t specify head tube angles-only seat tube angles. For Bixxis do they vary by frame size, or what? Are they all 73 deg for all sizes by default?
Seems the same fork rake (45) is specified across the board.

Velocipede 03-10-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ERK55 (Post 2671271)
One thing I’ve noted among various Italian builders: the geometry charts often don’t specify head tube angles-only seat tube angles. For Bixxis do they vary by frame size, or what? Are they all 73 deg for all sizes by default?
Seems the same fork rake (45) is specified across the board.

Normally a 73 degree head angle is the common standard. You can specify the head angle you would like. Just like any of the measurements as custom geometry is an option.

Same with the 45 rake. The Falz fork has 2 rakes- 45 and 50. In keeping with a lively yet comfortable ride, Doriano chose the 45mm rake. Obviously you can opt for a different fork. Enve is of course the go to for most builds. I actually like the Columbus forks a lot. Very comfortable and not too stiff. But if you wanted a frame without a fork, that's an option as well.

Jef58 03-10-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ERK55 (Post 2671271)
One thing I’ve noted among various Italian builders: the geometry charts often don’t specify head tube angles-only seat tube angles. For Bixxis do they vary by frame size, or what? Are they all 73 deg for all sizes by default?
Seems the same fork rake (45) is specified across the board.

My Pathos is different from the geo chart listed. Mine is a 50 and has fraction of degrees slacker seat tube angle and longer top tube. The head tube is a tad shorter as well. It was built around my fit measurements and the head tube angle was a fraction between 72' and 73' using the 45 Falz.

If you were measured or sent him his specific measurement points, he builds a geometry around that. What I signed off on was well within the usual fit numbers I'm used too. I trusted him 100% to build me what I think a bike should ride like, and that is what I got. Doriano knows bike design and has the skill to put it all together.

ERK55 03-10-2020 08:29 PM

Thanks guys for the info.

Velocipede 03-10-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jef58 (Post 2671547)
My Pathos is different from the geo chart listed. Mine is a 50 and has fraction of degrees slacker seat tube angle and longer top tube. The head tube is a tad shorter as well. It was built around my fit measurements and the head tube angle was a fraction between 72' and 73' using the 45 Falz.

If you were measured or sent him his specific measurement points, he builds a geometry around that. What I signed off on was well within the usual fit numbers I'm used too. I trusted him 100% to build me what I think a bike should ride like, and that is what I got. Doriano knows bike design and has the skill to put it all together.

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Thanks guys for the info.

Absolutely. Bixxis can make whatever you want. The stock geometry is just an option. Most people are going to get a custom frame made as Jef58 did. Just as mine is.

Velocipede 05-25-2020 01:12 PM

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This BiXXis Pathos was made for a client in Kentucky. It's a fully custom geometry frame and the finish is like the one from the review. It's getting a custom titanium stem in a brushed finish to match the frame.

A Falz Fork, Chris King headset with matching spacer kit, PMP titanium seatpost, brushed finish of course. It'll be built with a Campagnolo Super Record mechanical kit. The parts were originally on a Jaegher that the owner was hit by a car on.

Even with the 1 month lockdown in Italy, Doriano was able to get this beautiful custom titanium frame ready in 4 months. Just 1 month over the quoted time. Looking forward to getting this in the States next week.


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