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DCilliams 11-05-2019 08:21 AM

How do you guys feel about these older aluminum Dreams? I usually pass over them in favor of the Masters and the like.


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RobJ 11-05-2019 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by d_douglas (Post 2615880)
I know the bike and owner. It’s very cool, but I bought a Colnago from him a year ago and he wasn’t an upfront seller. Be warned. I would offer to help, but not with this dude :banana:

It is a very cool CX bike, I will say that

Interesting feedback. That's unfortunate.

The shipping cost on this one is what bugged me. Seems quite high for only a frameset.

RobJ 11-05-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DCilliams (Post 2615927)
How do you guys feel about these older aluminum Dreams? I usually pass over them in favor of the Masters and the like.

I personally would not overlook them, especially one that has a cool paint job like this Rabobank. I had a Mapei version of the road bike that I regret unleashing.

They have the shaped tubes, carbon fork and have a pretty forgiving ride for aluminum.

stronzo 11-05-2019 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RobJ (Post 2615934)
I personally would not overlook them, especially one that has a cool paint job like this Rabobank. I had a Mapei version of the road bike that I regret unleashing.

They have the shaped tubes, carbon fork and have a pretty forgiving ride for aluminum.

Anyone know the tire clearance on one of these?

ultraman6970 11-05-2019 09:08 AM

I do not know about this CX one but what is the road dream are just fantastic. That's the reason guys dont let them go or try to cash out big time...

I had a dream and was a fantastic bike, IMO did not ride like aluminum it rides more like carbon, really smooth for being aluminum... this one in particular is super nice and probably wont go for a lot because the seller is in canada, but who knows.



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Originally Posted by DCilliams (Post 2615927)
How do you guys feel about these older aluminum Dreams? I usually pass over them in favor of the Masters and the like.


rallizes 11-05-2019 10:07 AM

Gaulzetti Corsa 58cm - Road Racing bike - $1000 (NORWOOD)

https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bi...013349018.html

This race bike needs a new home! I would love to sell it as is locally before parting it out. Such an incredible bike, super stiff oversized straight aluminum tubes. Its really no frills, just speed and accuracy with instant response. This frame was built in MA, painted by Circle A in Providence and raced in New England. Gun metal grey with emerald green logos. Toptube and seat tube c-c are 58 cm. The seat post is cut so the saddle rails to bottom bracket c-c is 78cm. So you could cut more off, raise the seat post topper a little more or get a taller topper to dial in the fit. Im 6'2 for reference. Paint is in good condition, light scuffs here and there, but no major chips scratches etc. Comes with the following: Sram Red BB30 crank (53/39 rings, 10 speed),Bontrager carbon fork, Chris King headset, 140mm aluminum stem, Shimano pro carbon fiber bars, Rival shifters (right shifter needs repair/replacement), Rival front and rear derailleurs, sram red brake calipers (need pads/shoes), fizik aliante vs saddle, tacx tao bottle cages. Could use new cables etc im sure but as is would get you most of the way to riding. Cash only, pick up only.
https://www.cycleexif.com/gaulzetti-corsa https://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_...8_1200x900.jpg

yinzerniner 11-05-2019 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RobJ (Post 2615931)
Interesting feedback. That's unfortunate.

The shipping cost on this one is what bugged me. Seems quite high for only a frameset.

Have to remember that this is coming from British Columbia, so shipping is roughly twice vs domestic US.

Would love to see that thing properly built up though.

XXtwindad 11-05-2019 10:57 AM

Indy Fab Stainless Great Components 57cm $1950
 
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Beautiful bike with Campy Record and Shamals. Really not sure how this is a 57cm though …

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...013077120.html

jet sanchez 11-05-2019 12:21 PM

https://ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb6196767/p4pb6196767.jpg

I had one of those CX Dreams, great bike, mine was a team bike that has a carbon fork. Sorry that the picture is so bad...

scottcw2 11-05-2019 12:30 PM

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Beautiful bike with Campy Record and Shamals. Really not sure how this is a 57cm though … [/url]

The sizing may be questionable, but "no whoosh whoosh of the carbon."

Pegoready 11-05-2019 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by XXtwindad (Post 2616011)
Beautiful bike with Campy Record and Shamals. Really not sure how this is a 57cm though …

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...013077120.html

Bike sizing is all screwy these days, but visually if that sloping top tube measures 55 cm c-c actual it is most likely ~57 cm effective. Plus the head tube length of 18 cm puts it in line with an endurance fit 57. I would confidently buy that if I were looking for a 57/58.

Whether stainless is or was a great material for frames is open to debate though. I personally wouldn't want a no warranty stainless frame unless it was a screaming deal.

XXtwindad 11-05-2019 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pegoready (Post 2616063)
Bike sizing is all screwy these days, but visually if that sloping top tube measures 55 cm c-c actual it is most likely ~57 cm effective. Plus the head tube length of 18 cm puts it in line with an endurance fit 57. I would confidently buy that if I were looking for a 57/58.

Whether stainless is or was a great material for frames is open to debate though. I personally wouldn't want a no warranty stainless frame unless it was a screaming deal.

Why do you feel this way?

Pegoready 11-05-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XXtwindad (Post 2616167)
Why do you feel this way?

There's a reason everyone made stainless frames in that 2008-2010 window and then stopped, including IF. My theory is the stock tubesets didn't allow for much customization and were geared for lighter riders. Example: the Pegoretti Responsorium has a 180 lb. weight limit. You can't really build custom frames and then limit the weight at 180 lb.

Maybe things have changed. Pegoretti just released the Round with no weight limit. I'd trust a Kirk Onesto without question.

I just wonder if all the builders who made stainless frames for that short period of time had high warranty rates or the bikes just didn't live up to the hype. A lot of people bought and showed off their stainless bikes from this era and I don't see them around anymore, not that it means much in this crowd. 10 years on a bike is a lifetime here!

Clean39T 11-06-2019 09:43 AM

Winter Bicycles S&S Lugged Cerakote 55cm TT

$3500 complete

https://www.wintercutlery.com/produc...=false&q=false

https://www.wintercutlery.com/upload..._i1_w1600.jpeg

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R3awak3n 11-06-2019 09:46 AM

glad that is not my size.


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