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sighting 01-29-2021 10:44 AM

Hors Categorie
 
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Well I decided to rebuild my late fathers Hors Categorie

It was ransacked soon after him buying it many many moons ago in SF.
Actually our first bike ride together.

Serial on it does not match the decoder.

CTI 55 45xx

I am hoping to rebuild it but I don't even know where to start to find out what group sets it came with and/or if I should use old stock or newer components.

oliver1850 02-05-2021 03:37 PM

That's an interesting serial number as it's the code normal used for custom Legends. Hors is normally HC, but there was one posted recently that was stamped CH.

oliver1850 02-05-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerjosh (Post 2846962)
I just picked up a Colorado LT that's a 49. TC 49 2239. Interestingly it doesn't have lugs at the head tube or the BB. I could see not using them on the tiny head tube, but the BB lug omission is puzzling. Oh well, I like the fade.

My guess is that no lugged shell existed for the Colorado down tube for a frame that small. The early Colorados and CIIs were also filet brazed at the bottom bracket until Serotta had lugged shells made.

oliver1850 02-05-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by richarddd (Post 2836822)
appreciate the work you all have put in. I recently picked up ti bike #808, a 1994 Colorado ti off fbmp from the original owner. who has a newer head badge for sale? the sticker on the head tube just seems cheap for such a quality frame.

I have seen them pop up occasionally on ebay. You might check with member and former Serotta dealer coolplanetbikes as he has had some NOS parts.

Keith A 02-05-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oliver1850 (Post 2876439)
That's an interesting serial number as it's the code normal used for custom Legends. Hors is normally HC, but there was one posted recently that was stamped CH.

I guess they might have considered this a custom Legend??

oliver1850 02-06-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith A (Post 2876475)
I guess they might have considered this a custom Legend??

That's my guess, especially given the 4,5XX serial number. Doubt there were 1,000 DKS frames made of all models. I've yet to see an Ottrott DKS except in the catalogs. The 2003 catalog shows DKS available on Ottrott and Legend but there was no Hors shown that year. So at some point the HC was phased out in favor of the Legend DKS. Not sure how one with a Legend serial number ended up with HC decals, other than these kind of discrepancies are common with Serottas.

mmelito 04-12-2021 07:12 AM

I came across a local seller who provided me with the following serial number

CNV56455

I did my best to parse through this thread, but I didn't immediately identify a reference to any "NV"

Hoping for some guidance and I apologize if i missed something obvious previously posted.

Thanks very much

dave thompson 04-12-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mmelito (Post 2911243)
I came across a local seller who provided me with the following serial number

CNV56455

I did my best to parse through this thread, but I didn't immediately identify a reference to any "NV"

Hoping for some guidance and I apologize if i missed something obvious previously posted.

Thanks very much

What does the seller represent the frame to be?

mmelito 04-12-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dave thompson (Post 2911299)
What does the seller represent the frame to be?

Hey thanks for the quick response.

Seller represents it as an Ottrott

I hate to be cynical, so that's why I'm checking with those who are in the know :banana:

dave thompson 04-12-2021 02:44 PM

Have the seller send you a pic of the serial number. It’s possible he’s mis-reading the number.

Also have him send you some pics of the bike, particularly of the rear dropouts and of the Ti/carbon joints. I think it would be hard to fake an Ottrott.

mmelito 04-12-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dave thompson (Post 2911455)
Have the seller send you a pic of the serial number. It’s possible he’s mis-reading the number.

Also have him send you some pics of the bike, particularly of the rear dropouts and of the Ti/carbon joints. I think it would be hard to fake an Ottrott.


Turns out to be a Nove; I now can understand the confusion> I guess we can update the list to include "NV"

The drop outs have bosses without bearings, however they are difficult to distinguish between models (Nove vs Ottrott)

mmonty 04-30-2021 08:45 PM

Colorado Legend CRL
 
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I just finished my winter build and I love riding it. Based on the 93/94 catalog, I believe that is the year. I was hoping someone could verify whether or not that is correct. The serial number is CRL54 00004.

Thanks in advance for your help, Mike.

dave thompson 04-30-2021 09:43 PM

With a serial number of 00004, I’d guess 1st week of production for that model. Maybe even 1st day!

oliver1850 05-03-2021 02:04 PM

Agree with Dave, surely an early 1993 model CRL. Guessing it would have been built in 1992 as they would have had to build some for the catalog photos.

Kirk Pacenti 05-26-2021 07:17 AM

I'd appreciate some help in decoding this one -

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showp...3&postcount=68

I assume the following, but it's just a guess:

BS = Ben Serotta?

12880 = December 8th, 1980?

RS = ???

58 = 58cm frame - This does match the frame size.

112 = the 112th frame built that year, or month?


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