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cabbagelookin 07-23-2018 05:53 PM

Firefly All-Road (FF739)
 
Just joined the forum - thanks for the add!

Took delivery of this in March - so much love for it so far. Built up with eTap (which has been great, despite the abuses I've put it through so far) and two wheelsets (650b Belgium+ and 700c ENVE SES AR). Can't say enough good things about the team at Firefly - they were patient with my questions, anno ideas and last-minute request to add top-tube bosses. Super-happy with the bike. A few pics below - full gallery here and my Instagram has some more pics of it in action (and some other bikes!).

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/870/41...82be388d_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/874/39...29bcda36_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/801/41...12db4f82_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/816/40...5de4fb40_c.jpg

superbowlpats 07-23-2018 06:01 PM

Stunning:hello:

Mzilliox 07-23-2018 06:02 PM

so frickin cool. ticks all the boxes!
what do you have in mind for the top tube bosses? interesting choice there.

cabbagelookin 07-23-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mzilliox (Post 2399209)
so frickin cool. ticks all the boxes!
what do you have in mind for the top tube bosses? interesting choice there.

Direct mount top tube bags. Hate Velcro straps rubbing the inside of my chunky legs!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/RF...=w1278-h719-no

Hobine 07-23-2018 07:26 PM

Amazing machine, every Firefly is a work of art, but this one is special.

I dig the Stanton hardtail too.

Hilltopperny 07-23-2018 07:55 PM

Welcome and amazing bike! I remember first seeing this in the firefly gallery here and saying damn!


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weightshift 07-23-2018 09:29 PM

So great. Definitely one of the more complex and cool ano jobs on a Firefly.

ntkt10 07-24-2018 01:33 PM

The ano is crazy looking, definitely need more close ups.

cabbagelookin 07-24-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ntkt10 (Post 2399662)
The ano is crazy looking, definitely need more close ups.

Well, since you ask...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/791/41...0b02fca5_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/789/40...5c806588_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/792/40...1fe471a5_c.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/801/27...c9c1a08a_c.jpg

jinbok 07-24-2018 03:50 PM

Iced out!!!!

happycampyer 07-24-2018 10:19 PM

Incredible. Firefly really pushes the boundary of finishing details. It looks like an ice-blue topographic map. What was the inspiration/whose idea was it?

joosttx 07-24-2018 10:35 PM

The finish details are incredible. What cassette are you using?

cabbagelookin 07-24-2018 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by happycampyer (Post 2399932)
Incredible. Firefly really pushes the boundary of finishing details. It looks like an ice-blue topographic map. What was the inspiration/whose idea was it?

Ultimately my direction - we went back and forth on what might work. Settled on the concept below. Ellen used a technique they hadn't tried before where she used nail varnish to mask the areas instead of strips of nylon. Lots of work on her part that really paid off IMO.

https://i.etsystatic.com/5210170/r/i....173932926.jpg

cabbagelookin 07-24-2018 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joosttx (Post 2399937)
The finish details are incredible. What cassette are you using?

Just a SRAM 1070 11-32 on both wheelsets.

kingpin75s 07-24-2018 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbagelookin (Post 2399944)
Ultimately my direction - we went back and forth on what might work. Settled on the concept below. Ellen used a technique they hadn't tried before where she used nail varnish to mask the areas instead of strips of nylon. Lots of work on her part that really paid off IMO.

https://i.etsystatic.com/5210170/r/i....173932926.jpg

Interesting.

The whole look seemed very Leni Fried inspired to me.

Really cool stuff. Great bike. Enjoy!

YoKev 07-26-2018 09:48 AM

A++

killerrabbit 07-26-2018 10:10 AM

Absolutely amazing. Looks like your idea was executed to perfection. Enjoy!

bob heinatz 07-26-2018 05:17 PM

Great looking bike. Have fun with it.

iphands 07-27-2018 10:44 AM

Siiick

weaponsgrade 07-27-2018 11:31 AM

That anodizing is killer! What do you like about 650b vs 700 wheelsets? I suppose it comes down to terrain but do you find yourself preferring one over the other?

cabbagelookin 07-27-2018 12:15 PM

Firefly All-Road (FF739)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weaponsgrade (Post 2401440)
That anodizing is killer! What do you like about 650b vs 700 wheelsets? I suppose it comes down to terrain but do you find yourself preferring one over the other?



I’ve never had carbon wheels before, so the difference in climbing and speed in general on the 700c is pretty huge. However, the 650b were amazing for a highly technical gravel race like Hilly Billy. I’ve done some civilized gravel centuries on the 700c on Schwalbe Pro-One 28mm (actually measure 30mm) and it wasn’t the *most* comfortable so I think I’m going to try some G-One 35mm tires on the 700c for D2R2 this year - see how it behaves on those descents. (Descending on the 650s is pretty fantastic...)


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vladoo 07-27-2018 02:07 PM

Switching between wheelset (650 vs 700) is without any problem? No adjustment on the bike? Thx.

cabbagelookin 07-27-2018 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vladoo (Post 2401558)
Switching between wheelset (650 vs 700) is without any problem? No adjustment on the bike? Thx.

Both wheelsets use the same hub (CK R45 centerlock), same rotor (SRAM Centerline X) and same cassette (1070 11-32) - switch over with zero issues. I initially started swapping the chain when i swapped the wheels but honestly ran out of patience for it and will probably just end up replacing the chain more often.

sailorboy 07-27-2018 07:30 PM

Wow, never seen anything like this from them...they continue to blow minds, and kudos for your inspiration on this.

You're in Philly too, what part? Maybe I'll see it in the flesh one of these days.

cabbagelookin 07-27-2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sailorboy (Post 2401747)
Wow, never seen anything like this from them...they continue to blow minds, and kudos for your inspiration on this.



You're in Philly too, what part? Maybe I'll see it in the flesh one of these days.



Thanks! I’m down in center city - can usually find me at the fun gravel rides in the area! Looking forward to Keystone Gravel, unPAved and maybe Iron Cross this year!


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vladoo 07-28-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbagelookin (Post 2401560)
Both wheelsets use the same hub (CK R45 centerlock), same rotor (SRAM Centerline X) and same cassette (1070 11-32) - switch over with zero issues. I initially started swapping the chain when i swapped the wheels but honestly ran out of patience for it and will probably just end up replacing the chain more often.

Thank You and have a nice ride :)

Hankae 08-06-2018 07:23 AM

Spectacular Bike!!
 
I can see a Firefly in my future.
Best
Hank

weisan 08-06-2018 07:47 AM

Is there anything these cats can't do with producing the desired aesthetic results???

Obviously not!

:p

Well done!
:hello:

sparky33 08-06-2018 08:40 AM

What width 650b?
Did they build it with their new driveside yoke, or with a conventional chainstay?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbagelookin (Post 2401474)
I’ve never had carbon wheels before, so the difference in climbing and speed in general on the 700c is pretty huge. However, the 650b were amazing for a highly technical gravel race like Hilly Billy. I’ve done some civilized gravel centuries on the 700c on Schwalbe Pro-One 28mm (actually measure 30mm) and it wasn’t the *most* comfortable so I think I’m going to try some G-One 35mm tires on the 700c for D2R2 this year - see how it behaves on those descents. (Descending on the 650s is pretty fantastic...)


cabbagelookin 08-06-2018 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky33 (Post 2406008)
What width 650b?
Did they build it with their new driveside yoke, or with a conventional chainstay?

47mm. Originally was running the Panaracer GK 1.9" but the outside knobs would rub on the eTap front der battery when out of the saddle, so switched out the back tire for a Terrene Elwood 47mm. Still have the GK on the front, but will probably switch it out to match at some point.

Chainstays are conventional - i think for this amount of clearance on 650b, they don't have to worry about introducing a yolk to keep the chainstays short enough. I think there's clearance for 700x40 but haven't tested that - widest I'd go would probably be 35 before throwing the 650b on.

brownhound 08-06-2018 10:34 AM

Seems like a good jersey for the bike.

https://www.twinsix.com/collections/...=2396288286741

cabbagelookin 08-06-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by brownhound (Post 2406094)
Seems like a good jersey for the bike.



https://www.twinsix.com/collections/...=2396288286741



Yes! Isaw this one! I bought this one already as well :)

https://www.morvelo.com/us/fathom-me...ht-jersey.html


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monkeybanana86 08-06-2018 11:12 AM

Whoa!

owly 08-06-2018 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbagelookin (Post 2406116)
Yes! Isaw this one! I bought this one already as well :)

https://www.morvelo.com/us/fathom-me...ht-jersey.html


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Make it three:-
https://thepedla.com/collections/fro...fly-jersey-tan

cabbagelookin 08-06-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by owly (Post 2406278)

I like it! They have a bluer one too :)

savechief 08-10-2018 08:26 PM

Great bike!

Just curious, how long from order placed to bike received?

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PaMtbRider 08-11-2018 05:55 AM

Very nice. Firefly does an excellent job with the aesthetics of their bikes. I'm sure they ride as nice as they look. If you don't mind me asking, could you give an approximate cost of what that level of anodizing adds to the cost of the bike.

cabbagelookin 08-11-2018 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savechief (Post 2408578)
Great bike!

Just curious, how long from order placed to bike received?

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Pretty much a year. Which is what they quoted from the start.


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cabbagelookin 08-11-2018 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaMtbRider (Post 2408654)
Very nice. Firefly does an excellent job with the aesthetics of their bikes. I'm sure they ride as nice as they look. If you don't mind me asking, could you give an approximate cost of what that level of anodizing adds to the cost of the bike.


It was just over $1k for anodizing of the frame and painting of the fork. The level of detail I asked for added a couple of hundred dollars because Ellen had to spend more time on the masking. But, given the amount of work it must have been, I thought it was pretty reasonable.


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PaMtbRider 08-11-2018 07:16 AM

Thanks for sharing. That is very similar to the cost of the paint on my wife's recent Kirk and seems reasonable for the detail of work involved.


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