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weaponsgrade 02-12-2019 01:23 AM

Locktite or anti-seize for Philwood BB?
 
I recently built up a bike with an old Philwood square taper bb I had. It's English threading. Philwood says to use threadlocker to install so I used blue Locktite. But now I'm wondering if I should use grease or anti-seize instead even though Phil didn't specifically mention. I can't remember what I did last time, but I do remember having to take a saw to a seized bb once. Does Locktite also work as an anti-seize protectant?

ultraman6970 02-12-2019 02:01 AM

Never used those BBs, but IME just a lot of grease and teflon tape will do the work just fine.

NHAero 02-12-2019 06:21 AM

Been using them in steel and Ti frames for 40 years with antiseize not Loctite. Never came loose. Both the stainless and aluminum retaining rings.

oldpotatoe 02-12-2019 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by weaponsgrade (Post 2499593)
I recently built up a bike with an old Philwood square taper bb I had. It's English threading. Philwood says to use threadlocker to install so I used blue Locktite. But now I'm wondering if I should use grease or anti-seize instead even though Phil didn't specifically mention. I can't remember what I did last time, but I do remember having to take a saw to a seized bb once. Does Locktite also work as an anti-seize protectant?

Love Phil stuff, know a lot of those guys but I have been using grease or antisieze in these for over 30 years. I also put grease INSIDE both cups AND use 2 tools..install TIGHT..

mt2u77 02-12-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe (Post 2499622)
Love Phil stuff, know a lot of those guys but I have been using grease or antisieze in these for over 30 years. I also put grease INSIDE both cups AND use 2 tools..install TIGHT..

I'm curious why 2 tools are recommended for an English bb. Wouldn't the opposing right hand and left hand threads cause it to cinch up with just one tool?

AngryScientist 02-12-2019 09:18 AM

grease. always grease in any BB.

austex 02-12-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mt2u77 (Post 2499663)
I'm curious why 2 tools are recommended for an English bb. Wouldn't the opposing right hand and left hand threads cause it to cinch up with just one tool?

Don't you know OP only uses superior I-talian threaded bottom-brackets :hello:

Yes, English bb can get by with one tool, just a bit easier to fine-tune side-side if'n you don't have to swap the tool forth and back.

oldpotatoe 02-12-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mt2u77 (Post 2499663)
I'm curious why 2 tools are recommended for an English bb. Wouldn't the opposing right hand and left hand threads cause it to cinch up with just one tool?

Yessir but 2, pushing same direction with 2 tools, with the vastly inferior english threaded BB, makes sure it's TIGHT. :)

mtechnica 02-12-2019 10:04 AM

Any of those should prevent galvanic corrosion which is the main issue. Might consider using blue on an Italian BB since they tend to come loose :)

mt2u77 02-12-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe (Post 2499669)
Yessir but 2, pushing same direction with 2 tools, with the vastly inferior english threaded BB, makes sure it's TIGHT. :)

Ha ha! I walked into that one, didn't I. Thanks.

Ralph 02-12-2019 11:11 AM

Talking about Reverse threaded drive side and English....and then Italian...….I remember my Dad's 49 Desoto, and 53 Chrysler.....both has reverse threaded lug nuts on passenger side wheels. Idea then was so they wouldn't come loose.

bigbill 02-12-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe (Post 2499669)
Yessir but 2, pushing same direction with 2 tools, with the vastly inferior english threaded BB, makes sure it's TIGHT. :)

I use two tools, even bought an extra socket and bar so I could tighten at the same time. I also used the included blue locktite. Never had an issue getting one out, even after using it for a few years in Hawaii commuting.

bicycletricycle 02-12-2019 12:54 PM

same here. except only 20 years

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Originally Posted by NHAero (Post 2499613)
Been using them in steel and Ti frames for 40 years with antiseize not Loctite. Never came loose. Both the stainless and aluminum retaining rings.


Don49 02-12-2019 05:52 PM

Not exactly what you are asking, but you might enjoy a thread I started "Phil Wood BB Install - Need Help" Some good PW BB info there.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=202735

kingpin75s 02-12-2019 07:20 PM

I run a lot of Phil SqT BBs.

Phil Wood grease on all cup threads and a dab of blue.

Purple generally works as well, but blue is what is recommended.

As stated, you need 2 tools to install properly.


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