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zmalwo 12-16-2021 01:44 PM

The Pro's Closet at it again
 
A 8 yo Colnago with repaired downtube, ****ty wheels, and 2 generation old Ultegra is tagged at $2,199.99.

https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...uQwLXRqOlA8Z8g

Can't wait for the TPC sleeper agents here to "back them up" again.

FriarQuade 12-16-2021 01:47 PM

My assumption is that these guys move through more used bikes than anyone else on the planet and they have a pretty good idea of what a given bike can sell for. You're not a buyer for that bike at that price, so move along.

Mr B 12-16-2021 01:54 PM

Luckily it still has 'Colnago' printed on 23 other areas of the frameset, so everyone knows what you're riding.

45K10 12-16-2021 01:56 PM

Yeah that price seems high especially with that ugly patch job on the downtube, yikes.

zmalwo 12-16-2021 02:00 PM

This ad showed up on my Facebook feed so I clicked on it and it was the only thing I looked at. Wasn't even deliberately looking for a bad deal on TPC.

Jaybee 12-16-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FriarQuade (Post 3024231)
My assumption is that these guys move through more used bikes than anyone else on the planet and they have a pretty good idea of what a given bike can sell for. You're not a buyer for that bike at that price, so move along.

+1

Either it will sell at that price or they will have to lower it until it does. This is how markets work.

Curious why people seem genuinely offended at prices for things they aren't going to buy.

C40_guy 12-16-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaybee (Post 3024242)
Curious why people seem genuinely offended at prices for things they aren't going to buy.

I'm genuinely offended by that patch job.

Big Dan 12-16-2021 02:09 PM

Is that Gorilla tape?

Clean39T 12-16-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dan (Post 3024245)
Is that Gorilla tape?

I was thinking Flex-Tape..

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51zz+P24dQL.jpg

45K10 12-16-2021 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaybee (Post 3024242)
+1

Either it will sell at that price or they will have to lower it until it does. This is how markets work.

Curious why people seem genuinely offended at prices for things they aren't going to buy.

I see what you're saying but I also see the OP's point too. and full disclosure I have sold a bike to TPC although I haven't purchased anything from them.

But to put a patched job CF bike on their website site for that kind of price seems like they are fishing for a sucker IMO.

AngryScientist 12-16-2021 02:15 PM

My "Nago broke?? No problem.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/fADf4...ized-large.gif

Clean39T 12-16-2021 02:17 PM

Just gotta be discriminating.. no different than picking through the flea-market tables or your local used-car lot.

Here's a gem:

https://www.theproscloset.com/products/moots-ybb-m

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/23..._2048x2048.jpg

Great combo of frameset, groupset, and wheelset - plus the Moots stem/post.

mtechnica 12-16-2021 02:18 PM

Is it just me or does it kinda look like there's a crack on the N, in the picture of the downtube (not the duct taped side)?

45K10 12-16-2021 02:21 PM

I love Moots but that YBB Vamoots is not a good bike

cgolvin 12-16-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 45K10 (Post 3024253)
I love Moots but that YBB Vamoots is not a good bike

Personally, those ergo bars murder the appeal of any bike :butt:

Clean39T 12-16-2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45K10 (Post 3024253)
I love Moots but that YBB Vamoots is not a good bike

Why's that? Some people love them..

echappist 12-16-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Clean39T (Post 3024250)
Just gotta be discriminating.. no different than picking through the bins at Goodwill.

Great combo of frameset, groupset, and wheelset - plus the Moots stem/post.

The only (and superficial) similarity between Goodwill and TPC is that both sells duds, which, upon closer inspection, is problematic for one but not the other.

Otherwise, I don’t think Goodwill, whose intent is to provide basic necessities at a cost affordable to the indigent, should be mentioned in the same vein as a company looking to offload substandard goods at whatever price the market is willing to bear.

45K10 12-16-2021 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Clean39T (Post 3024258)
Why's that? Some people love them..

My Dad had one and used to say how much he loved it and how much other people loved them. I thought it felt horrible when I rode it. I think it's just "confirmation bias" talking :)

Clean39T 12-16-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by echappist (Post 3024260)
The only (and superficial) similarity between Goodwill and TPC is that both sells duds, which, upon closer inspection, is problematic for one but not the other.

Otherwise, I don’t think Goodwill, whose intent is to provide basic necessities at a cost affordable to the indigent, should be mentioned in the same vein as a company looking to offload substandard goods at whatever price the market is willing to bear.

That's fair - I'll append to "garage sale".. or used car lot.

Mark McM 12-16-2021 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 45K10 (Post 3024248)
But to put a patched job CF bike on their website site for that kind of price seems like they are fishing for a sucker IMO.

That's just another description of free market capitalism.

I'm only offended by high prices if it is an example of price gouging, usary or profiteering, but a used Colnago bicycle doesn't fit into any of those categories. If someone isn't interested in paying that price for it, they can just walk away with no harm to anyone.

greggk 12-16-2021 02:55 PM

it's like riding around with a black eye. Your eyes are just drawn to the defect.

Oddly enough, it just happens to be my size....

Clean39T 12-16-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark McM (Post 3024269)
That's just another description of free market capitalism.

I'm only offended by high prices if it is an example of price gouging, usary or profiteering, but a used Colnago bicycle doesn't fit into any of those categories. If someone isn't interested in paying that price for it, they can just walk away with no harm to anyone.

When I look at their site I see a ton of outdated, overpriced, beat up inventory - and it does irk me that undoubtedly some people new to the sport are getting duped...... and that is really unfortunate. That may just be how capitalism works, but I'm not obligated to like it.

robt57 12-16-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cgolvin (Post 3024257)
Personally, those ergo bars murder the appeal of any bike :butt:

agree, quick fix though...

pdonk 12-16-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Clean39T (Post 3024258)
Why's that? Some people love them..

I've ridden one, and it was pretty good on chip seal and rough roads, add in that you can likely fit 30s and maybe 32s on it and you have a great rough road bike.

reuben 12-16-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robt57 (Post 3024285)
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgolvin (Post 3024257)
Personally, those ergo bars murder the appeal of any bike :butt:

agree, quick fix though...

Agreed on both counts.

charliedid 12-16-2021 03:54 PM

Buy it if ya like it.

old_fat_and_slow 12-16-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mtechnica (Post 3024251)
Is it just me or does it kinda look like there's a crack on the N, in the picture of the downtube (not the duct taped side)?

No it's not just you. They shouldn't even be selling that bike.

Jared Purdy 12-16-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaybee (Post 3024242)
+1

Either it will sell at that price or they will have to lower it until it does. This is how markets work.

Curious why people seem genuinely offended at prices for things they aren't going to buy.

If I want it, or need it, and I can afford it, I'll buy it. I recently paid $700CDN for a Super Record 11 Speed 11-29 cassette. Stupid expensive, but there are none out there, and from the looks of it, no more will ever be made.

On that bike, no, I would not pay that. There are better deals to be had. They have a lot of nice looking bikes though, and I almost bought from them about a month ago.

reuben 12-16-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by charliedid (Post 3024305)
Buy it if ya like it.

This is how N+1 and many other more serious problems start.

krooj 12-16-2021 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AngryScientist (Post 3024249)

This is the content I come here for.

charliedid 12-16-2021 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reuben (Post 3024313)
This is how N+1 and many other more serious problems start.

Shrug :banana:

raygunner 12-16-2021 04:22 PM

I have to admit that scrolling through the new arrivals at TPC has become a routine.

My only gripe is regarding their saved search feature. One of mine is "Moots". So when a Moots hits the site you'll get an email informing you. But the email alert comes several, several hours (maybe almost a day) after the bike hits their site.

oldpotatoe 12-16-2021 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriarQuade (Post 3024231)
My assumption is that these guys move through more used bikes than anyone else on the planet and they have a pretty good idea of what a given bike can sell for. You're not a buyer for that bike at that price, so move along.

What he said.:)

oldpotatoe 12-16-2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45K10 (Post 3024262)
My Dad had one and used to say how much he loved it and how much other people loved them. I thought it felt horrible when I rode it. I think it's just "confirmation bias" talking :)

Ahh, I get it…FIFY:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45K10 View Post
I love Moots but I don’t think that this YBB Vamoots is a good bike

pdmtong 12-16-2021 04:52 PM

why the angst on price? most people here have bikes that probably cost at least 10x more than the general population would pay for any bike. does it matter?

weisan 12-16-2021 05:07 PM

Just chatted with a pal during our group ride this morning who was telling me how happy he was to be able to find a Trek Checkpoint in his size at Pro's Closet and also got a pretty decent trade in value for his wife's ebike.

Pegoready 12-16-2021 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriarQuade (Post 3024231)
My assumption is that these guys move through more used bikes than anyone else on the planet and they have a pretty good idea of what a given bike can sell for. You're not a buyer for that bike at that price, so move along.

Yes and no.

They're not like "lil old me, just sellin' my wares on my site for a fair price..." they've become as much a technology company and a media company as they are a used bike company.

Just an onslaught, full court press on Google shopping results, Instagram, Facebook, the ads on many websites. If you use the internet, you will be force fed TPC listings without even trying.

Even my favorite Youtubers and bloggers have gotten kickbacks from TPC to show off a new-old bike they got through them.

It's just weird to be fed all this stuff to be led to a... $2000 second tier Colnago with a patch job repair. According to their own intake criteria they don't even make offers on repaired carbon bikes so how and why did this one get through?

Duvivr6 12-16-2021 05:24 PM

Are we even sure that was "repaired" cause it seriously looks like duct tape. :help:

Ozz 12-16-2021 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FriarQuade (Post 3024231)
My assumption is that these guys move through more used bikes than anyone else on the planet and they have a pretty good idea of what a given bike can sell for. You're not a buyer for that bike at that price, so move along.

Right?

I would put more blame on the people who pay ridiculous prices, than the vendors who list items for ridiculous prices....it's like feeding stray cats.

AngryScientist 12-16-2021 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Clean39T (Post 3024273)
When I look at their site I see a ton of outdated, overpriced, beat up inventory - and it does irk me that undoubtedly some people new to the sport are getting duped...... and that is really unfortunate. That may just be how capitalism works, but I'm not obligated to like it.

Along those lines, i think what bothers me is the "certified pre-owned" designation. if you have a certified pre-owned program, presumably that means the best bikes get that sticker and the lower stuff does not. i think it's somewhat irresponsible for them to provide a reassurance like that on a carbon frame with such an eye sore of a repair, unless they have intimate knowledge of it's integrity.


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