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galgal 10-15-2016 08:17 AM

Oops, sorry I misread slx as six. My bad. Thanks again

innanzi 03-27-2018 01:07 PM

Master X Light
 
The link below will take you to one of two Colnago bikes I own, one steel and one carbon. Fantastic bike to ride and the Shimano gears work like a dream.

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk...pu-extras.html

C40_guy 03-27-2018 01:23 PM

Thanks, great compilation.

You might want to add in the Colnago Crystal, which had Columbus Brain tubing shaped somewhat ovally on the down tube...

Decent riding...I bought one to race on years ago, and then my son mentioned that he had outgrown his first road bike, so he ended up on the Crystal...I think I continued to race my C40 for a while...

Also, for your comment: "others -- i should mention there were master TT, track, and even MTB variants, but this effort is focused entirely on the core road-variants"...there were a small handful of steel cyclocross frames built, one-offs for pro riders. I own a Master CX and I've seen pictures of a couple of mid-90s steel Colnago CX bikes that were lugless (not Dream CX).

My steel Master CX was built in the early-mid '90s. Round tubing, pure CX geometry, unicrown steel fork, no serial number (so Laura @ Colnago couldn't help with any historical details.

Also, btw, the early Spiral Conics had round tubes only, no flared. My '89 had a curved front fork and round tubes. My first Colnago, the one that started the craziness for me. :)

KarlC 03-27-2018 01:44 PM

Love this thread, here is how my Colnago Master X-Light in Saronni PR82 was last. Its now striped down to the frame waiting on me to rebuild with some Campy .....


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4373/...b98b80b9_b.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/YGdVPx]

cadence90 03-27-2018 03:54 PM

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colker 03-27-2018 08:03 PM

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Cool.
Colnagos in the right paint scheme hit me like no other bike. "Hey.. I am YOUR bike and you know it."

flyingPiggy 07-27-2018 04:13 PM

Great info!

While dating my 1989 MasterPiu, I learned the following:

88-89 Toptube cable routing changed to internal but missing "piu" decal.
88-89 Seatstay cap stamp changed from "COLNAGO" to "Club" icon.
89-90 Bottom Bracket Stamped "BREV. COLNAGO" and "Club" cutout to Stamped "Colnago" *Not sure

89 the precisa fork was introduced but 'many' masters were ordered with older style fork or swapped fork later by the LBS.

Hope this helps too.

https://i.imgur.com/WOUOdI0.jpg?1

tomgrooves 10-08-2018 06:00 PM

Super or Master? How can you tell?
 
Great thread by the way. I'v recently bought my first Colnago

Trying to identify it. Decals say Super but I'm pretty sure it's had a respray so not sure how much to trust them. A few folks have suggested it may be a Master so thought I would post. Apologies if it's not! Don't mean to crash your thread!

Internal cabling on top tube. Straight Precisa forks but might not be original to frame? Thought it might be a Super Sprint or Super Piu or possibly a Master? Can't find any serial number. I think it might be late 80s or early 90s. I'm no expert so looking for some advice. It's been stripped of all original parts which I'm looking to change but for the time being it rides well and is super light! Pics in link below.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/45719736@N08/54cL27

https://www.flickr.com/gp/45719736@N08/Sm95b0

wallymann 10-09-2018 08:36 AM

looks like a super to me. definitely not a master, no gilco profile tubes.

since it has internal routing, good chance colnago was still making the super in the early 90s and simply added internal routing along with the master-piu. or it's some other next-level-down model alongside the master-piu -- super-piu is likely based on images i can google about that model!

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Originally Posted by tomgrooves (Post 2437289)
Great thread by the way. I'v recently bought my first Colnago

Trying to identify it. Decals say Super but I'm pretty sure it's had a respray so not sure how much to trust them. A few folks have suggested it may be a Master so thought I would post. Apologies if it's not! Don't mean to crash your thread!

Internal cabling on top tube. Straight Precisa forks but might not be original to frame? Thought it might be a Super Sprint or Super Piu or possibly a Master? Can't find any serial number. I think it might be late 80s or early 90s. I'm no expert so looking for some advice. It's been stripped of all original parts which I'm looking to change but for the time being it rides well and is super light! Pics in link below.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/45719736@N08/54cL27


tomgrooves 10-09-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wallymann (Post 2437508)
looks like a super to me. definitely not a master, no gilco profile tubes.

since it has internal routing, good chance colnago was still making the super in the early 90s and simply added internal routing along with the master-piu. or it's some other next-level-down model alongside the master-piu -- super-piu is likely based on images i can google about that model!

Thanks for coming back so quick. I thought a Piu was likely but couldn't find good proof a Super Piu existed or a Super with internal cabling. Some photos from other owners but nothing like a catalogue shot or something more concrete.

bicycletricycle 10-09-2018 01:13 PM

thanks for sharing. I have had a few of these over the years and I always want one when I don't have one. That one with the split down tube looks amazing.

Cycling Fool 11-25-2018 05:25 PM

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Thanks for this great thread. I've always wanted a colnago but back in the early nineties I had to "settle" for a Pinarello Montello (vintage mid 80s) in Spumoni paint. This thread helped me figure on what I was looking for. Finally finished the build up today and went for a quick ten miles 😀. Per Laura at Colnago it's a 1996 in AD4 finish.

velogeek.be 01-26-2019 02:05 AM

Serial number?
 
This is mine, waiting to be equipped. I think it's a first generation Master, with external cable routing, although in most photos the cable glands are above and not below the tube. It was repainted by the previous owner. Is there a serial number that would allow me to identify it with certainty?

https://runninggeek.be/wp-content/up...124718-01.jpeg

paredown 01-26-2019 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by velogeek.be (Post 2491230)
This is mine, waiting to be equipped. I think it's a first generation Master, with external cable routing, although in most photos the cable glands are above and not below the tube. It was repainted by the previous owner. Is there a serial number that would allow me to identify it with certainty?

Late generation Master--late 90s to 2000s when they switched those cable stops to the side of the top tube (you will see them in the same location on the CT1/2 (titanium) if they are original.

Serial may be on the face of the rear dropout.

velogeek.be 01-26-2019 03:40 PM

Thank you. I found a catalogue from 1997 and it matches, indeed. It's not bad news, it allows me a more modern group.

https://i0.wp.com/2velo.com/wp-conte...7051.jpg?w=600


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