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jonjones13
11-16-2011, 11:44 AM
Avoid the Tenderloin like the plague or is it not that bad ??

yngpunk
11-16-2011, 11:47 AM
Wouldn't say avoid it like the plague, but unless you have reason to go there, not much to do/see. As with any large city, street smarts are good to have when walking around.

Waldo
11-16-2011, 12:02 PM
Good place to go if you're looking for drugs, ho action, nutty street people, or excellent and cheap Vietnamese food. Otherwise stay away.

pavel
11-16-2011, 12:12 PM
Walk through to witness crack cocaine being smoked as casually as you would eat an ice cream cone.

Tenderloin isnt particularly dangerous to "outsiders." The crime there is entrenched to the locals.

norcalbiker
11-16-2011, 12:15 PM
Believe it or not, they have some good restaurants around tenderloin. I used to work in Post and Larkin. They have some good Authentic Vietnamese and some other Asians Restaurants.

MadRocketSci
11-16-2011, 12:33 PM
i think there is also good cheap Turkish food. Check out the map i sent you.

there might be the occasional stray bullet flying, but since it's in the main part of the city it might not be tooo bad...for the adventurous it showcases the craziest of the crazies.

better to stay clear of Bayview/Hunter's Point (aka Gun Point)...

etu
11-16-2011, 12:40 PM
A lot of violent crime occurs @ Bayview/Hunters Pt area
Tenderloin not considered dangerous by locals
Expect to see some homeless, etc., but also has some really good northern Indian food
Do not have to circumnavigate around it

tannhauser
11-16-2011, 12:54 PM
In the TL a lot of crazy S happens, but it's usually directed inwardly or at other crazy peeps.

I've been going through it for decades and have eaten at every single place in it, all at least good, mostly delicious.

I did step over a dead body once.

And periodically dealers come in from other areas to sell and there are mini turf wars. A few months ago a German tourist was killed in a cross-fire.

Mostly ok.

jonjones13
11-16-2011, 01:06 PM
Thanks peeps. Think I'll steer clear :-)

tannhauser
11-16-2011, 01:09 PM
Dear Welshman, with taste buds born in Wales, two words:

Vietnamese Food. You will have died and gone to heaven. Or hell, if you choose to look at it like that.

maunahaole
11-16-2011, 01:13 PM
Wear closed toe shoes with thick soles in the loin.

rjfr
11-16-2011, 01:29 PM
Like any big city, you need to have some amount of street smarts. if you look like an easy target, stay away from dangerous areas.

The Mission and Tenderloin are frequented by lots of people from lots of places, but there are certain times of the night where you will need to be a little more vigilant.

If you are comfortable in a big city, I would not avoid the Tenderloin. It is part of the fabric of SF.

norcalbiker
11-16-2011, 01:45 PM
Thanks peeps. Think I'll steer clear :-)

If you do, then you did not see some of the real part of San Francisco. :p

I would rather go to Tenderloin than see Embarcadero.

tannhauser
11-16-2011, 01:53 PM
If it's nice rent a cheap bike and ride the Embarcadero to the GG Bridge, for sure.
Sausalito or the Headlands if so inclined.

yngpunk
11-16-2011, 02:15 PM
If you do, then you did not see some of the real part of San Francisco. :p

I would rather go to Tenderloin than see Embarcadero.

What about the farmers market at the Ferry Building? I think that's well worth the trip.

tannhauser
11-16-2011, 02:19 PM
What about the farmers market at the Ferry Building? I think that's well worth the trip.

Yes!

When playing tour guide we pick up bikes on Market, ride past the fruit sellers, pick up a few peaches, nuts, whatnot.

They surely appreciate them later!

Then hit Liverpool Lil's for a Lagunitas and boigah.

I am a good tour guide.

MadRocketSci
11-16-2011, 02:48 PM
If it's nice rent a cheap bike and ride the Embarcadero to the GG Bridge, for sure.
Sausalito or the Headlands if so inclined.

great view of the bay from downtown sausalito. since you're into burgers you can grab one at the tiny burger place (737 Bridgeway) with the rotating grill, surly grill guy, and all the tourists standing in line outside. Eat it across the street in the little park (december weather permitting).

despite being touristy, the burgers are actually pretty good. imho.

then head down the block (towards SF) and get an ice cream waffle cone at Lappert's.

then turn around and walk for a while until you hit Bicycle Odyssey...

MadRocketSci
11-16-2011, 02:50 PM
What about the farmers market at the Ferry Building? I think that's well worth the trip.

and then get a burger at Taylor's Refresher....

zetroc
11-16-2011, 03:16 PM
Then hit Liverpool Lil's for a Lagunitas and boigah.



And a Ramos Fizz!

nm87710
11-16-2011, 03:57 PM
Stop by Cecil William's Glide Church in the Tenderloin District for Sunday morning service.

norcalbiker
11-16-2011, 08:09 PM
What about the farmers market at the Ferry Building? I think that's well worth the trip.


Yes you're absolutely correct. :beer:

tannhauser
11-16-2011, 08:16 PM
and then get a burger at Taylor's Refresher....

...continue to the piers if it's Sea Lion time, burping, farting and charming the ladies...