Fat Tire Tubular Tire

[rugbysecondrow]

I am looking into trying some tubular wheels/tires this fall and winter, but it seems there are not as many fat tired options. For reference, I am looking at a tire around 29-33.

Any suggestions?

Also, will there even be a noticeable difference from a clinched fat tire vs. a tubular? Is it only really advantageous to go tubular when riding skinnier tires?


Thanks for entertaining my tubular newbie questions.

Paul

[pitcrew]

In a road tread, you won't find one in that width range. The are some road tubulars upto 27mm. There are file tread cyclocross tubular in the 30-32mm width range.

[oldpotatoe]

I am looking into trying some tubular wheels/tires this fall and winter, but it seems there are not as many fat tired options. For reference, I am looking at a tire around 29-33.

Any suggestions?

Also, will there even be a noticeable difference from a clinched fat tire vs. a tubular? Is it only really advantageous to go tubular when riding skinnier tires?


Thanks for entertaining my tubular newbie questions.

Paul

32mm file tread Vittoria.

About as small as cross tubies go. Road tubies not bigger than 27.

Tubie doesn't come off if flatted(glue properly), is more comfy, less prone to flat.

[ultraman6970]

Never seen that wide range either... I remember a "alvarez" made in argentina, they had like a 26 or 27 mm wide that was fantastic, the rubber came from old plane tires, u were able to get the darn tubular like paper dry with the years but the rubber looked like new. I even toasted one 2 years ago i had in my mom's house. That pair in specific used it maybe 3 years in a row for training, sides were dry but i never puncture them ever. Even after 20 years were able to stand 100 psi w/o any problem.

Never seen better tubulars than those ones and i have used pretty much everything but dugast (too expensive), sadly the factory closed around mid 90's. For the record argentinians made tubulars way better than italian's back in the day and cheaper too.

[DRietz]

You know, they are making 29er tubulars now if you're looking for a super cush ride...

;)

[Lionel]

I would look at FMB.

[gendo]

They have a 33 slick tread for dirts roads, etc. labeled the USH I believe. Read more here:

http://www.cxmagazine.com/exclusive-preview-clement-cyclocross-tubular-technology-and-upcoming-mxp-ush-tires

I have no experience with them but am interested.

[Dave Wages]

I know that Challenge Paris Roubaix's are listed at 27mm, but I'd wager the set that I had a few years back was much closer to 29mm. Never measured them, but I will say that they roll pretty darn smoooooth!

Also, you'd be hard pressed to fit them in most bikes with short reach brakes, if that says anything.

Cheers,
Dave

[fogrider]

They have a 33 slick tread for dirts roads, etc. labeled the USH I believe. Read more here:

http://www.cxmagazine.com/exclusive-preview-clement-cyclocross-tubular-technology-and-upcoming-mxp-ush-tires

I have no experience with them but am interested.

tufo tires are crazy light and feel pretty fast. I pump them up to 80 psi and ride to the trail...let out some air and ride the trails.

http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/tufo-flexus-dry-plus-tubular-cyclocross-tire

[rphetteplace]

I know that Challenge Paris Roubaix's are listed at 27mm, but I'd wager the set that I had a few years back was much closer to 29mm. Never measured them, but I will say that they roll pretty darn smoooooth!

Also, you'd be hard pressed to fit them in most bikes with short reach brakes, if that says anything.

Cheers,
Dave

+1 They are huge!

[happycampyer]

Fwiw, I have the FMB Paris-Roubaix cotton in 27mm, the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix in 27mm and the Dugast Pipistrello in 32mm (without the side knobs). Unless you're riding a lot of gravel, I'd say a 32mm tire is probably overkill. Also, you probably need a bike that takes medium reach brakes (these wheels are for a Strada Bianca).

There is a noticeable difference in ride quality between the 27mm tubulars and the Roly-Poly's, which is the only clincher I've ridden in 27-28mm. There are nicer riding fat clinchers than the Roly-Poly's, but I'd be surprised if they had the feel of the Challenge or FMB tubulars.

[Pastashop]

I've been out of the tubulars game for over a decade, but came into a light tubular wheelset at a good price recently. You know, so I could go from bottom 10 percentile of local Stravanators to the bottom 20 percentile, without having to give up beer and ice cream.

Anyhow, as I'm riding mostly dirt roads now, but not terribly muddy ones, I'm looking about for some fatter, slicker sew-up tires to soften the ride. Here's what I've found so far, in order of increasing fatness (and price, it seems):

TUFO 24 mm wide S33 Pro (http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/tufo-s33-pro-24mm-tubular/#pid=23425) – be reasonable on a dirt / small gravel road?

Challenge Mirage (24 mm wide...) (http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/challenge-mirage-tubular/#pid=7271)

25 mm wide ones from Maxxis (http://tinyurl.com/zh63k6y), but they're quite pricey from Maxxis - only source I could find.

Vittoria Corsa Elite at 25 mm (http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/vittoria-corsa-elite-tubular/#pid=23143)

Schwalbe One (at 26 mm) (http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/schwalbe-one-hand-made-tubular/#pid=18279)

Something in 27+ mm or preferably 29+ mm width would be preferred, though. Can one find anything in the $30-40 range (from friends across the Atlantic)? What's the latest in terms of product out there?

TIA!

[sandyrs]

No road tread tubulars over 27? Uh...


http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/strada-bianca-pro-039/en

[sandyrs]

They have a 33 slick tread for dirts roads, etc. labeled the USH I believe. Read more here:

http://www.cxmagazine.com/exclusive-preview-clement-cyclocross-tubular-technology-and-upcoming-mxp-ush-tires

I have no experience with them but am interested.

Clement's only tubulars are their cyclocross tires (BOS, LAS, PDX, MXP). The USH tires come in clincher/tubeless.

[oliver1850]

Tufo D28? There was a 30 mm version also. Not sure if either is widely available.

http://www.hibike.com/tufo-diamond-d28-cross-tubular-28x28mm-60tpi-black-p992a89d9c2cf9d32ffebc7a6d1397b67

[Look585]

Anyhow, as I'm riding mostly dirt roads now, but not terribly muddy ones, I'm looking about for some fatter, slicker sew-up tires to soften the ride. Here's what I've found so far, in order of increasing fatness (and price, it seems):

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TIA!

I like the 30mm Schwalbe S-One which has a very light "pebble" tread and measures ~29mm out of the box and a true 30mm after a few weeks of inflation. They are more than your $30-40 price range.

Alternatively, and a bit cheaper, are file-tread CX tires. The Vittoria XN Pro (~32mm) and Specialized Trigger Pros (~33-34mm) are great "mixed-terrain" tires that roll pretty well on pavement and can handle just about anything off road that is worth riding on a road/gravel rig.

(shameless plug, I have both for sale cheap HERE (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=196197))

[nrs5000]

Nominal 27 FMBs run about 29