kool/nerdy seatpost trunk bag rack from Arkel

[eddief]

this could be a good accessory for a normal commuter, but especially for a coupled travel bike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIe46jSB5kA

give that guy an A for enthusiasm!

[itsflantastic]

that's actually something i might want. I did a mini tour in the beginning of July with a seat post mounted rack and it was awful. It swung all over the place and wouldn't stay put on the post. It constantly slid down.

[rugbysecondrow]

looks cool

[tuscanyswe]

looks smart. If its as solid as it seems i can c myself using that.

[Fixed]

where do we order ?
cheers

[BCS]

I used this system for 2 Brevets this season. It is very easy to set up and the quality of Arkel Bags is first rate. The bag holds a lot more than the slim profile would indicate. Absolutely no thigh rub. The rack and bag are rock solid-there is no movement, noise, etc. I highly recommend this combo.

[rice rocket]

That looks neat.

My question is, what if my saddle is slammed all the way back?

I guess I could try to find another seatpost with like 50mm of setback... :rolleyes:

[dhoff]

This is a first class set up. Solid, light, quick to set up and take off.

I most definitely recommend. And as said before, the bags are wonderful and more spacious than they look.

[rugbysecondrow]

Do you know if it will work with the seat rails of a brooks. Some things don't.

Thanks

Paul

[Dekonick]

Do you know if it will work with the seat rails of a brooks. Some things don't.

Thanks

Paul

Paul - there is an adapter. I want this rack!

http://www.modernbike.com/itemgroup.asp?igpk=2126182472&TID=367

[Kontact]

Is this rack somehow superior to something like this?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41E95X5GMNL._SS400_.jpg
It seems like clamping to the seat post would be even more solid.

The Arkel would be better for use with carbon or odd size posts, though.

[eddief]

i just ordered the Arkel rack and will let you know. but my thinking is the Arkel is anchored in a triangle and that could be the differentiator compared to most others. never tried the others, but Arkel seems to do it right.

with 10 pounds of crap swinging from a single pivot around your seatpost might lead to clamp creep. might not.

[itsflantastic]

Well, I like the arkel design because it has 3 points of contact. With just one, it can swing back and forth. Has for me in the past. Also, the clamp on the traditional ones is big and fat and I've had problems with it grazing the inside of my leg with every stroke (that's what she said?).

I'm eager to give the arkel a try

[xjoex]

That looks pretty neat. For my last tour I used a Jandd Expedition Rack and panniers on my cross bike using tubus rack mounting kits.
http://robonza.blogspot.com/2011/05/review-tubus-rack-mounting-solutions.html

It provides a longer skewer with brackets for attaching a rack
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eiQ37GmbKrU/TdnAmxF_OoI/AAAAAAAADds/a8vU5sAL6TY/s800/IMG_5174.JPG

And clamps for attaching the rack to the seat stays.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dt1Jssak0Rk/TdnCLbQUMBI/AAAAAAAADeA/qo_ym-sIPw0/s1600/IMG_5178.JPG


Just another alternative if you already own a rack.

-Joe

[fogrider]

attach the rack to the frame. I put a rack on the post with a small pack, the weight that high completely threw off the handling. racks should be mounted on the frame. packs should be mounted low.

[tuscanyswe]

Is this rack somehow superior to something like this?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41E95X5GMNL._SS400_.jpg
It seems like clamping to the seat post would be even more solid.

The Arkel would be better for use with carbon or odd size posts, though.


The one you picture is actually a pretty poor solution imo.

The one discussed goes around seapot + both of saddlerails so it can not swing from side to side around the seatpost like many do.

[572cv]

I used the Moots Tailgator on a trip to the Vercors region of France last month. It is light weight, very stable and capacious. It is not at the level of the Arkel for load capacity, but might be of interest to those who are looking for something smaller.

[mvrider]

Has anyone ever tried the OMM racks? They have many options for fitting bikes without eyelets, with disc brakes, etc.

http://www.oldmanmountain.com/Pages/RackPages/RearRacks.html

[William]

I'm not really a bag type of guy...but....if I were to decide I needed one I would seriously consider that Arkel set up.





William

[jr59]

The Arkel looks good, they make good stuff.

You may want to check out the Caradice with a bagman rack as well

http://www.wallbike.com/carradice/racks/bagman-racks
http://www.wallbike.com/carradice/saddlebags/carradice-camper-longflap-saddlebag

[Kontact]

The one you picture is actually a pretty poor solution imo.

The one discussed goes around seapot + both of saddlerails so it can not swing from side to side around the seatpost like many do.
I haven't used any of these, but I don't see how having two clamping points is going to prevent swing in the plane of those two points - side to side.

The one I posted clamps like a stem does to the steerer. To swing it would have to grind away the post. Or are you saying that the these flex side to side?

The Arkel looks like it could be stronger vertically, because it is cantilevered. But the other one looks like it could bear the kind of weight a stoker stem does on a tandem, since it is built similarly.

[tuscanyswe]

We use to carry similar solutions in the shop i worked at. I find that when loaded they did not feel very secure. Perhaps cause they are designed to fit around alot of seapost diameters.

Why wouldent an extra V-shaped clamp to both seatrails increase side to side stability?

[veloduffer]

[QUOTE=Kontact]I haven't used any of these, but I don't see how having two clamping points is going to prevent swing in the plane of those two points - side to side.

The one I posted clamps like a stem does to the steerer. To swing it would have to grind away the post. Or are you saying that the these flex side to side?

[\QUOTE]

Yes, it swings from side to side and grinds against the seatpost. The seatpost clamp needs a fairly significant force to prevent a loaded bag & rack from swinging. This risks cutting into the seatpost and weakening its structure. By using the seat rails, the force is now shared. But it does not lessen the force on the seatpost clamp of the bike frame to hold the seatpost in place.