Dr. Doofus
07-14-2005, 01:07 PM
In the local shop, oofd noticed one of E-RITCHIE's late 70s creations (owned by a cat named frank who rides in gym shorts, never shaves, and has three sachs bikes, making him the coolest guy in rock hill sc)...doof saw that the old-school post and seat offered little overall setback -- the post had about 20mm of setback, and the saddle didn't have a lot of rail length. The result was that with the saddle all the way back, the seat was in the E-RITCHIE "sweet spot," with the buisness end of the saddle right in line with the seat tube.
dbrk has noted that frame setback have grown less and less over the last 25 years, with the bikes getting steeper and steeper...but does it all even out? Modern posts have more setback, modern seats have more rail length (unless you go for the lance concor-style), so in the end you get the same position...doof was thinking about this when frank's 70s white sachs and 2003 red sachs were side by side, looked like slightly different frame setbacks, one with the original (and worn to death...frankman don't clean or chage things too much) saddle and post, one with new zoot campy/arione, but the same pedaling position....
dbrk has noted that frame setback have grown less and less over the last 25 years, with the bikes getting steeper and steeper...but does it all even out? Modern posts have more setback, modern seats have more rail length (unless you go for the lance concor-style), so in the end you get the same position...doof was thinking about this when frank's 70s white sachs and 2003 red sachs were side by side, looked like slightly different frame setbacks, one with the original (and worn to death...frankman don't clean or chage things too much) saddle and post, one with new zoot campy/arione, but the same pedaling position....