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RFC
07-16-2011, 10:31 AM
I realize that the definition of randonneur bikes runs all over the place, but so what. Let's post and collect them here.

Here is my earlier '80s Bianchi Randonneur, which I stripped to nubs and rebuilt. The fork does provide a very distinct ride.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/RCopple/BianchiRandonneur9r.jpg

beungood
07-16-2011, 10:41 PM
I like that bike. I've thought of picking one of these up...

Erik_A
02-15-2016, 11:10 PM
I found a 1980's Bianchi Randonneur in the largest size 25", that I am building up. It is strange that it has such a short top-tube (57cm) for the 63" seat tube. I would have assumed it would have a 60cm top-tube in that size; especially since the smaller size 23" frame has the exact same 57cm top-tube.

In order to get it to fit me I plan on putting on a 130mm stem instead of my typical 100mm stem. Does anyone know whether this will adversely effect the handling?

From the 1983 catalog: http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/

Peter B
02-15-2016, 11:33 PM
This one keeps things simple.

Mzilliox
02-16-2016, 09:23 AM
I love this type of bike.

Here is my Randonneur:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/451/20301996871_09c57eb79e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wW23mP)Berthoud on an old fence (https://flic.kr/p/wW23mP) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

Gilles Berthoud 54.5 cm
Sachs New Success 7 speed triple group with Stronglight crankset (upgrading to 8s soon)
28mm Gravelkings under stainless Berthoud fenders
This thing goes anywhere

jr59
02-16-2016, 09:43 AM
I love this type of bike.

Here is my Randonneur:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/451/20301996871_09c57eb79e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wW23mP)Berthoud on an old fence (https://flic.kr/p/wW23mP) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

Gilles Berthoud 54.5 cm
Sachs New Success 7 speed triple group with Stronglight crankset (upgrading to 8s soon)
28mm Gravelkings under stainless Berthoud fenders
This thing goes anywhere

I like this bike so much, I have one just like it!

Sorry no pic on this computer, so I'll use Mzilliox's. Besides, he takes better pics than I do

Hilltopperny
02-16-2016, 10:58 AM
I have a 1985 cannondale st 500 that I have set up for adventure style rando type bike. I also have the 27" super champions with road tires but it's currently set up with some conti cyclo x kings. Set it up on super bowl Sunday instead of watching the game and have had some fun with it so far.

danielpack22@ma
02-16-2016, 11:00 AM
My Bianchi Volpe as a long distance bike.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6085/6152534415_f9a5879b6c_o.jpg

hummus_aquinas
02-16-2016, 11:05 AM
yes, uhh, lots of randonneuring...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1462/24530990239_cee270e70a_c.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1592/24603114630_b6070d4f13_c.jpg

oddsaabs
02-16-2016, 12:36 PM
My Elephant NFE has carried me far and wide....

modernfuturist
02-16-2016, 01:08 PM
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3781/13149887793_23410b1070_b.jpg

My typical setup for a 300k

MerckxMad
02-16-2016, 01:21 PM
Here are three of mine in various stages of being bagged up...

ptourkin
02-16-2016, 01:43 PM
My Kogswell, which I don't actually do brevets on:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/cecilhayduke/10686641_799728120062324_2323824397031120002_n.jpg

And my Exogrid, which I do with various types of bags:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/cecilhayduke/20150527_103955.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/cecilhayduke/21036944734_03bd5a3e01_o.jpg

SON dynos on both.

300k and down, I don't use extra bags - just a top tube box for charging gear and brevet cards. 400k and up, bigger bags for clothes and food.

R3awak3n
02-16-2016, 10:23 PM
https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12717108_235571610112599_1356127845_n.jpg?ig_cache _key=MTE4NTkwMDU2NDE2MDAyOTU1OQ%3D%3D.2

not sure I would say its 100% rando but I put some rando stuff on it :)

chrisuscc
02-16-2016, 11:11 PM
nothing I can post here.. will get one soon

mistermo
02-17-2016, 06:21 AM
Id like to see more of that Exogrid

R3awak3n
02-17-2016, 09:40 AM
nothing I can post here.. will get one soon

nothing you can post here but now you can post in the classifieds.:crap:

bicycletricycle
02-17-2016, 10:47 AM
maybe more light tour than rando, whatever.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/bicycletricycle/Chapman%20Cycles/sideview.jpg (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bicycletricycle/media/Chapman%20Cycles/sideview.jpg.html)

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/bicycletricycle/3E1AF653-4955-4762-B45F-072193428086_zps19fbnols.jpg (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bicycletricycle/media/3E1AF653-4955-4762-B45F-072193428086_zps19fbnols.jpg.html)

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/bicycletricycle/E0A8A43C-24AD-4726-B75F-2AB563F072CB_zpsfu6xmmhe.jpg (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bicycletricycle/media/E0A8A43C-24AD-4726-B75F-2AB563F072CB_zpsfu6xmmhe.jpg.html)

idrinkwater
02-18-2016, 06:30 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160218/21e52d9bdd46d1212a3c4a3cef015f88.jpg
Hardly qualifies as a rando bike. LHT.

numbskull
02-18-2016, 07:15 AM
[QUOTE=bicycletricycle;1919261]maybe more light tour than rando, whatever.

That is a very handsome bike

numbskull
02-18-2016, 07:17 AM
maybe more light tour than rando, whatever.

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/bicycletricycle/Chapman%20Cycles/sideview.jpg (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bicycletricycle/media/Chapman%20Cycles/sideview.jpg.html)



That is a very handsome bike

numbskull
02-18-2016, 07:20 AM
This one keeps things simple.

....but shouts "accomplished cyclist".

Kudos to you!

jr59
02-18-2016, 07:30 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160218/21e52d9bdd46d1212a3c4a3cef015f88.jpg
Hardly qualifies as a rando bike. LHT.


I think it does.

What bag is that?

idrinkwater
02-18-2016, 07:55 AM
A swift industries Ozette. Many miles on mine, and it's in awesome shape.

tbassak
02-18-2016, 08:43 AM
More of an all around or light touring bike. I need to get a rear rack. To paint or not to paint, that is the question.

thirdgenbird
02-18-2016, 08:58 AM
More of an all around or light touring bike. I need to get a rear rack. To paint or not to paint, that is the question.

Get a stainless tubus. It will complement the cages. Beautiful bike.

deansang
02-18-2016, 09:41 AM
1697915285 Boulder Bicycles 650b All Road. Such a wonderful ride. Since I got it in 2010, my other bikes have been collecting dust.

miguel
02-18-2016, 10:38 PM
http://theradavist.com/2014/08/winter-bicycles-volante-road/

This ones mine

There's a few photos in one of the photo threads

Drmojo
02-19-2016, 12:27 AM
http://theradavist.com/2014/08/winter-bicycles-volante-road/

This ones mine

There's a few photos in one of the photo threads

Seldom to I get this much bike envy
Almost too purdy to ride
Enjoy!
Where do you brevet?
new verb

EricEstlund
02-19-2016, 06:45 AM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2821/10104439643_09fa6d7fd9_c.jpg

I made this one to cover into occasional tour duty, too, but it's primarily a rando bike.

AngryScientist
02-19-2016, 06:52 AM
I made this one to cover into occasional tour duty, too, but it's primarily a rando bike.

Looks great Eric!

The line between light tourer and rando bike is quite a blurry one, no?

oldpotatoe
02-19-2016, 07:05 AM
Looks great Eric!

The line between light tourer and rando bike is quite a blurry one, no?

indeed.

rodcad
02-19-2016, 07:28 AM
Just north of Boulder last weekend....

EricEstlund
02-19-2016, 08:02 AM
It really depends on what both mean to the rider. Rando bikes can range pretty far along the "road bike with a bag" to kitchen sink ladden touring rigs. The US market definately has a 50's/ 60's French light touring version most of the time, and this is in that vein. I do the occasional rando type event and tour once or twice a summer- for me this is the perfect compromise. For tourers or regular rando event riders, I might aim on either side based on their needs and preferences.

miguel
02-19-2016, 01:54 PM
Seldom to I get this much bike envy
Almost too purdy to ride
Enjoy!
Where do you brevet?
new verb

Pacific Northwest. This one was in an accident and has a couple bumps and bruises, insurance purchased a new frame - different color. I spent more money and now I have an additional.

btanner
02-19-2016, 03:07 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160219/0503f685586bc98543ad734420c09ce0.jpg


CSi
Legend Ti ST
Mevici SE

jtakeda
02-21-2016, 06:56 PM
Gonna post this bike twice in a matter of minutes Sorry!

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1678/24885687100_4f51ce7006_b.jpg

Still need to add the rear rack, bottle cage, and edelux light but heres my rando rig!

Mzilliox
02-21-2016, 08:31 PM
Gonna post this bike twice in a matter of minutes Sorry!

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1678/24885687100_4f51ce7006_b.jpg

Still need to add the rear rack, bottle cage, and edelux light but heres my rando rig!

Love it!

Mzilliox
02-21-2016, 08:32 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160219/0503f685586bc98543ad734420c09ce0.jpg


CSi
Legend Ti ST
Mevici SE

that looks comfy

R3awak3n
02-21-2016, 09:03 PM
Any frame can be a randonneur frame. Watch any randonneur videos from Europe and most people seem to just be on road bikes. In the US though, you heard randonneur and you imagine 650b fendered bike, low trail wiht a front bag.

steamer
02-21-2016, 09:10 PM
Any frame can be a randonneur frame. Watch any randonneur videos from Europe and most people seem to just be on road bikes. In the US though, you heard randonneur and you imagine 650b fendered bike, low trail wiht a front bag.

Yeah, isn't a randonneuring bike simply a bike that gets ridden on randonees?

There are lots of machines meeting that definition that don't resemble something Jan Heine would love, and I think that's ok. That style of bike is perfectly fine and good, of course, but I don't really like this false association that seems to be forming in a lot of people's minds. That association being that you need a Heine approved bike to ride a randonnee.

sparky33
02-21-2016, 09:31 PM
Yeah, isn't a randonneuring bike simply a bike that gets ridden on randonees?



There are lots of machines meeting that definition that don't resemble something Jan Heine would love, and I think that's ok.


To me, a rando bike is a one that shows the collection of subtle customizations and beausage that a bike accumulates over the course of many long adventures.

And sure, we can also appreciate the splendor of the rando concept popularized in BQ.

unterhausen
02-21-2016, 09:51 PM
The difference between randonneurs and tourists is that tourists are smart enough to stop for the night. I had a lot of trouble explaining this to my mom, she never got it. In fact, she bought me a tent. "You're riding 750 miles, you have to carry a tent, right?"

Any frame can be a randonneur frame. Watch any randonneur videos from Europe and most people seem to just be on road bikes. In the US though, you heard randonneur and you imagine 650b fendered bike, low trail wiht a front bag.


I survey equipment at the start of randonneuring events, and the low-trail 650b w/handlebar bag rando bikes are still very much in the minority in the U.S. They are making inroads, no doubt, because they are well equipped for the sport. To me, a lightweight frame with fenders and lights is all that is required. I think the people that use a touring bike for randonneuring are handicapping themselves. Note that Jan Heine likes lightweight, flexible bikes. I have been on randonnees that would have been really brutal on a heavier bike.

Sure, you can do light touring on a rando bike, but I've done light touring on a crit bike.

Here is a picture of my randonneuring bike on the 2011 PBP, I'm rebuilding it after a ridiculously stuck seatpost:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1676/25157932466_eb055f6843_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ek7YQj)sezunbike (https://flic.kr/p/Ek7YQj) by unterhausen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/15174376@N00/), on Flickr

R3awak3n
02-21-2016, 09:57 PM
I love the traditional french randonneur bike, front bag, large 650b wheelset, fenders, ect but with all that stuff comes a weight penalty. If I was ever to do a 200/300k ride on the road I probably would rather be on a road bike with fenders. Anything involving dirt though, the big 650b tires are awesome (not saying they don't roll nice on the road because they do).

There are fast lightweight traditional randonneur bikes though, 22lbs with a bag and light, that is pretty respectable and would make for a nice comfortable long ride. But there is a fine line between a bike that would be great for a brevet and one that would be great for some touring.

R3awak3n
02-21-2016, 09:58 PM
also, good luck getting that seatpost out!

mmfs
02-21-2016, 10:09 PM
1697915495

I went in whole hog on Jan's philosophy and have been enjoying the past few thousand miles of varied terrain and brevets on my "rando" bike!

onsight512
02-21-2016, 10:27 PM
1697915495

I went in whole hog on Jan's philosophy and have been enjoying the past few thousand miles of varied terrain and brevets on my "rando" bike!

I like so many things about this photo.

mistermo
02-22-2016, 06:51 AM
I like so many things about this photo.

^^Where was this photo taken?

weisan
02-22-2016, 10:24 AM
So yes, Rando can be done on any bike you want.
For me personally, there are only two criteria I care about:

A) All day comfort
B) Can carry load without messing up the handling

I got three bikes that meet these two criteria
1) Nashbar all rounder
2) Merlin Ti
3) Surly Trucker Deluxe

I don't really have any excuse not to go out there and do it so I am hoping to do more self-supported loaded touring this year. In anticipation of El Nino weather, one requirement that I have prescribed for all of them is full on fenders.

henrypretz
02-22-2016, 12:32 PM
Did my first brevet ride this past Saturday.
This was "rando bike for a day".

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/176739a719641891022525a07e16ff0e.jpg

miguel
02-22-2016, 04:17 PM
congrats on yr first brevet
how far? where are you located?
it looks like you took a lot with you

henrypretz
02-22-2016, 04:27 PM
Hey thanks. I'm in Central California. (Fresno area)
It was a 200K.
Parts of the route were secluded, plus I don't do a very good job at keeping myself fueled, so I packed for a week ;)
I'm definitely a "belt AND suspenders" kind of person :)

Henry

congrats on yr first brevet
how far? where are you located?
it looks like you took a lot with you

mmfs
02-22-2016, 09:24 PM
Thanks! The photo is on one of my favorite roads in Dutchess County, about 60 miles north of NYC.

R3awak3n
02-22-2016, 09:33 PM
Thanks! The photo is on one of my favorite roads in Dutchess County, about 60 miles north of NYC.

would love to have that route, looks awesome.

edward12
02-23-2016, 04:47 PM
My Ebisu rando it its favorite environments.

oldpotatoe
02-24-2016, 06:35 AM
So yes, Rando can be done on any bike you want.
For me personally, there are only two criteria I care about:

A) All day comfort
B) Can carry load without messing up the handling

I got three bikes that meet these two criteria
1) Nashbar all rounder
2) Merlin Ti
3) Surly Trucker Deluxe

I don't really have any excuse not to go out there and do it so I am hoping to do more self-supported loaded touring this year. In anticipation of El Nino weather, one requirement that I have prescribed for all of them is full on fenders.

1)..holy moly, That chain is seriously too short!!

weisan
02-24-2016, 06:43 AM
1)..holy moly, That chain is seriously too short!!

But it saves weight....:D

AngryScientist
02-24-2016, 06:45 AM
seriously Wei - fix that thing.

unless that's your "bail out" plan for heavy duty rides, shift to the big ring and watch your RD explode!

El Chaba
02-24-2016, 09:00 AM
My Meral also does duty as a tourer, but it is my only rig with proper provisions for carrying bags. This bike dates to the 70's but when I had it repainted I modernized the drivetrain but left everything else as quite frankly those things could not be improved upon. The chrome steel racks on this thing are incredibly stiff and strong....

seajaye
02-24-2016, 09:54 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FwhXuT3bq2qMKClzaDEhQildFA17ibMIABVj1o_bVMG1ujaEvD zd7sw_nII3-VizXypQ3I6pwsYZLUqpHyRsVbhY_BAebFYA6Owkg00Dcf8i7eu EATmu9BgiVcwVMhRbmNInr73t-LiA_18KNAX6S0_zVSbUoRPjo16NOYU8jORiO4DQfllJFYAw5Td pmfV7CNZWtnE-CbWr1EloqPaVWoyxjHqVEcl8-nunD_fzbSu5Srem_nUU5ZFw-f_-NIoWkzKsAW3UUI0jGJ_AO7BxGSi_H8AKaROAxg2GdHqN7Dgrys FpLIfyzEMB7pI9XGj2BSj4mMl5c_A0JkEt4BuKs9jygiAO2zzg HXpi08OzThZH7V-sIK6_gl5ydE6cMdlvsveF-lCR47ptRdevBenkboVxX3nyWcgiH_LRc3Q3uW2YJMJ0HM_-aN0Jk0pK2uX8qM4I_pPZUk83g414NvnH8reY_bChewgHSB9ZT1 Jq4VY69dQ2dc32pitifJXmZ1jAbtiAVoMMNNrZ7M1L0bdBol-UbqB3SV1G8beR1Nxxx5d9ScPwM--feqES4ziew4I_rtCI=w1111-h833-no

edelux on the left side of the rack, and a toplight line plus on the bagman support. would like to get a bigger front bag at some point, but for now, front bag is plenty for summer rides, and using either the VO barrel bag on the back, or a carradice, is good for winter riding or longer distances.

v531xc
02-24-2016, 10:05 AM
Here's my Bilenky in road bike mode. I have a Nitto rack for the front load and fenders that fit over 28mm tires (currently Conti gators). Still need to build up a front dyno hub, but might wait until after my Chapman is complete since it might take over for the Bilenky in a lot of ways.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/31a954c481035c541a2eeedaaf1f6cf0.jpg

v531xc
02-24-2016, 10:06 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FwhXuT3bq2qMKClzaDEhQildFA17ibMIABVj1o_bVMG1ujaEvD zd7sw_nII3-VizXypQ3I6pwsYZLUqpHyRsVbhY_BAebFYA6Owkg00Dcf8i7eu EATmu9BgiVcwVMhRbmNInr73t-LiA_18KNAX6S0_zVSbUoRPjo16NOYU8jORiO4DQfllJFYAw5Td pmfV7CNZWtnE-CbWr1EloqPaVWoyxjHqVEcl8-nunD_fzbSu5Srem_nUU5ZFw-f_-NIoWkzKsAW3UUI0jGJ_AO7BxGSi_H8AKaROAxg2GdHqN7Dgrys FpLIfyzEMB7pI9XGj2BSj4mMl5c_A0JkEt4BuKs9jygiAO2zzg HXpi08OzThZH7V-sIK6_gl5ydE6cMdlvsveF-lCR47ptRdevBenkboVxX3nyWcgiH_LRc3Q3uW2YJMJ0HM_-aN0Jk0pK2uX8qM4I_pPZUk83g414NvnH8reY_bChewgHSB9ZT1 Jq4VY69dQ2dc32pitifJXmZ1jAbtiAVoMMNNrZ7M1L0bdBol-UbqB3SV1G8beR1Nxxx5d9ScPwM--feqES4ziew4I_rtCI=w1111-h833-no




Hi CJ! it's Varun! didn't know you were also on here. Your bike is looking great!

oldpotatoe
02-24-2016, 03:36 PM
But it saves weight....:D

It'll weigh even less when you rip the rear Der off...and break the chain.

weisan
02-24-2016, 03:57 PM
It'll weigh even less when you rip the rear Der off...and break the chain.

You are right, was just horsing. It's strange, I don't normally make that kind of mistake, I am eager to get home and take a look at it. Thanks for mentioning it, coz I will be riding this rig this weekend at a gravel ride.

mmfs
02-24-2016, 05:19 PM
To respond to the earlier question about where to ride your rando-style bike on snowy dirt roads north of NYC - that photo was on Tracy Road, east of Pawling, NY. On this route: https://ridewithgps.com/users/283412

Just don't tell anyone else, so it can remain secluded...!

seajaye
02-25-2016, 09:22 AM
Hi CJ! it's Varun! didn't know you were also on here. Your bike is looking great!

Thanks!! Excited to see your Chapman when it's finished.

Come ride with the PA Randos sometime soon.

mschol17
02-25-2016, 09:25 AM
My Weigle modified Raleigh- I need to take an updated photo ...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5771/21606846388_192a38f182_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yVjJEh)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/yVjJEh) by mschol30 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/87558561@N00/), on Flickr

559Rando
02-25-2016, 11:31 AM
My Weigle modified Raleigh- I need to take an updated photo ...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5771/21606846388_192a38f182_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yVjJEh)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/yVjJEh) by mschol30 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/87558561@N00/), on Flickr

mschol17, that's gorgeous. thanks for sharing!

Mzilliox
02-25-2016, 12:59 PM
My Weigle modified Raleigh- I need to take an updated photo ...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5771/21606846388_192a38f182_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yVjJEh)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/yVjJEh) by mschol30 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/87558561@N00/), on Flickr

I've seen that somewhere before...;)
sweet ride, love me some Weigle goodness...

Nags&Ducs
02-27-2016, 10:49 AM
Here are three of mine in various stages of being bagged up...

Love the Pashley! I've wanted one for YEARS! I had a chance to pick up a Pashley special that was done for a 90th anniversary for Evans Cycles in the UK. Could have gotten it for less than $2k. Sometimes kick myself for passing on it.

Not mine but wish it was.

gomango
02-27-2016, 11:10 AM
My son's Della Santa.

2,500 miles last year in a third of a season.

He rode the bike from St. Paul to Nipigon Bay, Ontario last summer as we were lapping Lake Superior.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7747/17909706040_8261d0d134_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/thBVDb)DSCN6670 (https://flic.kr/p/thBVDb) by gomango1849 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/36270004@N06/), on Flickr

ripvanrando
02-27-2016, 01:46 PM
Sweet machine.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160219/0503f685586bc98543ad734420c09ce0.jpg


CSi
Legend Ti ST
Mevici SE

thirdgenbird
02-27-2016, 03:41 PM
Part rando
Part EPO era euro trash

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk177/thirdgenbird/Osprey/BBB21642-9D21-4D80-8288-9490892E644C_zps4mgzsfik.jpg

Mzilliox
02-28-2016, 05:21 PM
Been cleaning this up all weekend, that front assembly was difficult to get back together just right.
Shes still not ready to show, needs new bars/stem/tape to make her mine, but close, shes cleaner than she was when i got her on friday.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1626/25332119266_987c4c11fe_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EAvJv1)Seat Cluster and tail light (https://flic.kr/p/EAvJv1) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr
and the seat cluster, tail light, rear fender/brake assembly is all cleaned up too.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1669/25240188332_a58ab558c1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EsoyCU)Fork and fender (https://flic.kr/p/EsoyCU) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

R3awak3n
02-28-2016, 05:23 PM
:eek:

Mzilliox
02-28-2016, 05:27 PM
:eek:

hehe, yup, found one... I knew you'd approve... ill get the full shots up tomorrow when i fix the stem and bars issue

jr59
02-28-2016, 05:44 PM
My Meral also does duty as a tourer, but it is my only rig with proper provisions for carrying bags. This bike dates to the 70's but when I had it repainted I modernized the drivetrain but left everything else as quite frankly those things could not be improved upon. The chrome steel racks on this thing are incredibly stiff and strong....

These are very nice bikes. Very under the radar.

jtakeda
02-28-2016, 06:21 PM
That weigle

R3awak3n
02-28-2016, 07:59 PM
hehe, yup, found one... I knew you'd approve... ill get the full shots up tomorrow when i fix the stem and bars issue

oh I most definitely approve and I am very jealous. That color looks awesome. Can't wait to see it!

ripvanrando
03-02-2016, 08:10 AM
This is the Randonneuring bike that I used on PBP. It is a 2014 Felt AR1 58 cm, 177.5 cm Rotor 3D+ with QXL 53/39 rings. SRAM Red 11 speed, Rivet leather saddle although I used a Berthoud on PBP. Lights and handlebar bag and it was GTG.

ripvanrando
03-02-2016, 08:25 AM
This is my regular rando and gravel bike. This is a custom built Zinn in magnesium. Powertap hub HED Ardennes plus 28 holes. Schwalbe Pro one tubeless 28 mm although it normally wears Compass 32 mm Extra Legere tires. SRAM red 11 speed. 177.5 Rotor 3D+ 53/38 Rotor rings. Brooks B17 titanium. Frog pedals. Pounded aluminum fenders. It does not usually have clip ons but it is wearing them now.

ripvanrando
03-02-2016, 08:26 AM
This is my go fast rando bike (I also have three older Rando bikes in the attic). 2016 Cervelo S3 58 cm. Dura ace crank. with 53/38 QXL rings. TT bars with SRAM shifters on it. Frog pedals. It is set up for a 300k and a 400K in cold weather (handlebar bag needed to put clothing for the sub freezing start)

Pastashop
03-02-2016, 08:32 AM
1697916002

Ebisu! (650b, 58 cm, Acorn tall bag, etc.) This bike rides real nice. Just wish the snow would melt and stay melted.

dvancleve
03-02-2016, 02:14 PM
Folks, please consider stating what your bike is, if it isn't obvious from your pic(s). There are a lot of neat bikes in this thread where I can only guess what they might be...

Thanks, Doug

MerckxMad
03-02-2016, 02:30 PM
Love the Pashley! I've wanted one for YEARS! I had a chance to pick up a Pashley special that was done for a 90th anniversary for Evans Cycles in the UK. Could have gotten it for less than $2k. Sometimes kick myself for passing on it.

Not mine but wish it was.

Thanks. The Pashley was one of the first off-the-rack cyclotourist rando rigs available in 700c with wide tires. It's a classic British audax ride. I recently installed a Carradice saddle bag which gives me more packing options than front Berthoud bag.

doomridesout
03-02-2016, 02:45 PM
Ripvanrando, I like your fast rando style. How long did it take you to finish PBP on that rig?

ripvanrando
03-02-2016, 02:59 PM
Ripvanrando, I like your fast rando style. How long did it take you to finish PBP on that rig?

Thanks. 54 hours and change. (I did PBP on the Felt, just a regular racing bike setup with handlebar bag....aero bars are illegal in mass events in France)

Dazza
03-02-2016, 04:38 PM
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

RGW
03-02-2016, 06:38 PM
Here's my Rawland Nordavinden set up with full "random gear". Set with 32mm Paselas, SKS longboards, Acorn rando bag. Current version has Paul Racer brakes as well

fiamme red
03-02-2016, 06:39 PM
Thanks. 54 hours and change. (I did PBP on the Felt, just a regular racing bike setup with handlebar bag....aero bars are illegal in mass events in France)Congratulations on making it into the Charly Miller Society. That's an amazing time. Did you have support?

ripvanrando
03-02-2016, 06:46 PM
Congratulations on making it into the Charly Miller Society. That's an amazing time. Did you have support?

thanks. No support. I wish I did. There is no food at early controls for the faster riders and it was not til Loudeac til I ate.

fiamme red
03-02-2016, 06:50 PM
thanks. No support. I wish I did. There is no food at early controls for the faster riders and it was not til Loudeac til I ate.That's about 450 km into the ride, no? Were you using a liquid diet until then?

ripvanrando
03-02-2016, 07:08 PM
That's about 450 km into the ride, no? Were you using a liquid diet until then?
4-5 bottles of liquid of my home brew. maybe 1400-1800 calories. I forget now. Not enough cals for sure as you know. Assume you rode it?. A very nice lady gave me a banana and it helped. I was burning fat 100% starting at Tintineac when my Hamburg riding companions who said, "5 minutes for some food" and they ditched me at like 3.5 minutes (they had support caravans and that is all it took for them to get food). The kicker is how much work I was doing AND they asked me to slow down. I could tell you what the elderly French gentlemen said about them dumping me but I don't want to anger anyone with the language and his gesture but it was funny. Solo from there back to the Velodrome although I did have a few chats with a couple other Randos but it is what it is. I could have waited in Tintineac but at like 3-4 am it was 40F and I was almost cold running on empty, I just pushed on hoping others would come. (I stopped three times for real food, total of 3 hours if that helps and i did not sleep at all)

fiamme red
03-02-2016, 07:40 PM
4-5 bottles of liquid of my home brew. maybe 1400-1800 calories. I forget now. Not enough cals for sure as you know. Assume you rode it?No, I've done a domestic 1200km brevet, but never PBP.
A very nice lady gave me a banana and it helped. I was burning fat 100% starting at Tintineac when my Hamburg riding companions who said, "5 minutes for some food" and they ditched me at like 3.5 minutes (they had support caravans and that is all it took for them to get food). The kicker is how much work I was doing AND they asked me to slow down. I could tell you what the elderly French gentlemen said about them dumping me but I don't want to anger anyone with the language and his gesture but it was funny. Solo from there back to the Velodrome although I did have a few chats with a couple other Randos but it is what it is.I can't understand how people with any conscience can live with themselves after doing that. It's not as if the 1.5 minutes make a difference between getting a money prize or not.

Björn Lenhard's story of how he finished first in record time is wonderful: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=92653.msg1912980#msg1912980.

I was shocked by the fact that nearly everybody seemed to have an own team of companions. When the cyclists reached the check point the companions almost snatched the bikes out of their hands. Then they sprinted in their cycling shoes to the check point to get a stamp. Other companions put them some food in the jerseys. When they came out, the bikes were ready to go, of course with refilled water bottles. Except my bike. I was on my own, "no support."I remember once riding an early-season 200km brevet together with a couple of friends, and we were at the head of the field. We were joined at mile 50 by someone who latched on to our paceline. He barely did any work, but with about 15 miles to go, on a steep hill, he took off and we didn't see him again. He finished 10 minutes ahead of us. I wasn't very pleased.

ripvanrando
03-03-2016, 07:06 AM
Björn Lenhard's story is very inspiring to me but being quite a bit older, I could not catch the supported riders like he was able unless I did a TT effort and that would have been foolish although I did catch them once and it was a ton of fun passing the Motorbikes coming down a hill at 48 mph.

When I saw Björn just riding really easy coming back up out of Brest, I first thought he was a local on a recovery training ride but then saw the little handlebar bag, lights, and other obvious accouterments screaming, "Rando".

I gave him a huge thumbs up and a cheer. He smiled hugely and gave me a thumbs up in return. I noted he was breathing easily thru his nose...he was calm as can be....not going really hard but he was moving pretty good up the hill although that is an easy climb just really long. About 20 or so minutes later, a pack of maybe 30-35 riders were chasing and you could hear heavy. labored breathing and just feel nervous energy.

It blows me away that Bijorn did it unsupported cuz I know how hard that is even with the incredibly nice French people at the controls. They were all empty when I got there. If I asked where the water was or where the toilets were, a volunteer would take me literally by the hand and walk me there. I guess they saw I was pretty old comparatively and doing a hard effort and out of respect they were helping me. I came into the first three controls with a small group (Villiane, Fougeres, and Tintineac) and came back to a lonesome bike parked by itself like Bijorn. Even still, impossible to keep with the supported riders unless I would say you could ride tempo at around 260-280 watts for 20-25 minutes. You lose 3-4 minutes and they are 2 Km down the road. You have to do 40-42 KPH for 20 minutes to catch back on and a very strong rider like Bijorn can do this. Amazing.

ripvanrando
03-03-2016, 07:41 AM
I remember once riding an early-season 200km brevet together with a couple of friends, and we were at the head of the field. We were joined at mile 50 by someone who latched on to our paceline. He barely did any work, but with about 15 miles to go, on a steep hill, he took off and we didn't see him again. He finished 10 minutes ahead of us. I wasn't very pleased.

Our local brevets are usually pretty laid back and you see all kinds of interesting bikes doing successful rides. We usually take 9-10 hour 200K at the fastest and I have 12 hour brevets to my credit. No racing and all pretty gentlemanly except nobody waits for me on climbs.

I don't mind getting dropped anymore and some guys always drop me on the hills. Two guys dropped me with 30 miles to go on a fast 200K recently. The two were good buddies and going for a personal best 200K. I did not care because my best times are way behind me and let them have their fun.

Brevets are not racing but if someone wants to challenge themselves to ride a time for themselves and not ride against another rider, I think this is actually in the historical spirit of allure libre randonneuring. Want to go slow? Go slow. Want to go fast? Go fast.

I do like looking at randonneuring bikes because they show a lot of creativity and they always have careful thought for how they are fitted.

ptourkin
03-03-2016, 06:14 PM
Setup for 400k Saturday. Dinotte and Edelux lights with Dill Pickle handlebar bag. Excuse the mismatched tires and awkward PC8 position. Might still throw a Corsa up front too.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p250/cecilhayduke/20160303_160642.jpg

ripvanrando
03-03-2016, 06:26 PM
PT.....I like those small Dill Pickle bags. Looks like a nice setup/bike for a 400K. I don't see the head lamp although the dynamo is there. Do you take the light off and put it back on for night events? (I do that sometimes)

ptourkin
03-03-2016, 06:34 PM
PT.....I like those small Dill Pickle bags. Looks like a nice setup/bike for a 400K. I don't see the head lamp although the dynamo is there. Do you take the light off and put it back on for night events? (I do that sometimes)

The Edelux is mounted on the fork crown underneath the bag so it's hard to see. It's not a perfect position, but it works. I wear a battery lamp on my helmet for reading signs and seeing things that are higher than the Edelux beam. With my shorter head tube, it's tough to get a good mount with the bag on.

I only use the dyno wheel and light for long events, yes. The mount for the Edelux stays on behind the brake but I remove the light.

ripvanrando
03-03-2016, 06:42 PM
The Edelux is mounted on the fork crown underneath the bag so it's hard to see. It's not a perfect position, but it works. I wear a battery lamp on my helmet for reading signs and seeing things that are higher than the Edelux beam. With my shorter head tube, it's tough to get a good mount with the bag on.

I only use the dyno wheel and light for long events, yes. The mount for the Edelux stays on behind the brake but I remove the light.
I see it now. Silly me. I put my lamp there, too.

Dazza
03-03-2016, 06:49 PM
This one is my own that I use for daily errands

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5312/14106846883_24d0241973_b.jpg

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Dazza
03-03-2016, 07:02 PM
this was a heap of toil and it is only now that the pain has subsided I can enjoy it. I wish Campy Record or Shimano 9000 was available in plain silver anodised. I am bored insane with black, red, grey, silver and more black from houses and apartments to cars and bicycles.
Am I too grumpy, I might need another cup of black tea?

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Cicli
03-03-2016, 07:05 PM
^^^^^^^ my gawd. Those are beautiful. ^^^^^^^^^^^

ripvanrando
03-03-2016, 07:20 PM
Beautiful work, Dazza.

Mzilliox
03-04-2016, 09:06 AM
I hear ya about the black and red parts, what happened to silver? thats why we still roll campy 10 in my house.

Dazza, your attention to detail are second to none, you build an incredible looking bike. now to save my pennies


this was a heap of toil and it is only now that the pain has subsided I can enjoy it. I wish Campy Record or Shimano 9000 was available in plain silver anodised. I am bored insane with black, red, grey, silver and more black from houses and apartments to cars and bicycles.
Am I too grumpy, I might need another cup of black tea?

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merckx
03-04-2016, 09:56 AM
Beyond words, Dazza, beyond words.

Nags&Ducs
08-26-2016, 01:12 PM
Thanks. The Pashley was one of the first off-the-rack cyclotourist rando rigs available in 700c with wide tires. It's a classic British audax ride. I recently installed a Carradice saddle bag which gives me more packing options than front Berthoud bag.

Resurrecting an old thread!

I'm on the hunt for my own rando/audax style bike, and although I'd love to have a Pashley, they don't sell the frameset. I've been watching the classifieds and fleaBay for a Pashley Clubman Country, but no luck so far, even in the UK sites.

So now, I'm most likely going to get a Bob Jackson. I was also considering a Mercian but the BJ came in a lot cheaper. But uhhhh, say, you're Pashley looks to be about my size...If you ever get sick and tired of your Clubman Country :D

MerckxMad
08-26-2016, 01:30 PM
Just thinking about selling my Pashley. I'll pm you...

Nags&Ducs
08-26-2016, 01:44 PM
This one is my own that I use for daily errands

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3890/14676336368_ab4c370e39_b.jpg



Dazza, these two bikes are the ultimate rando/audax style bikes I've ever laid my eyes on!!! Seriously. I love these style of bikes, and the likes of JP Weigle, Vanilla, Mercian, Signal, Winter are all at the top of the game. But IMHO, you've upped it a notch.

BTW, can you tell me what this picture shows? I've never seen anything like it and it has me scratching my head.

m_sasso
08-26-2016, 03:08 PM
BTW, can you tell me what this picture shows? I've never seen anything like it and it has me scratching my head.

Fender mount, difficult to discern due to the reflection emanating from the polished fender.

bicycletricycle
08-26-2016, 04:55 PM
Brian put together a bunch of process pics of my last build
http://www.chapmancycles.com/slideshows/ryan_c_650B/


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/bicycletricycle/Chapman%20Cycles/FB9672D8-9DE9-404E-BC1F-5EFA2BD0F02E_zpsknnwunag.jpg (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bicycletricycle/media/Chapman%20Cycles/FB9672D8-9DE9-404E-BC1F-5EFA2BD0F02E_zpsknnwunag.jpg.html)

weisan
08-26-2016, 05:13 PM
https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1603/24825678343_af7b50012f_b.jpg

Dazza pal....Holy Trinity~!!!

:D

ripvanrando
08-26-2016, 07:25 PM
Thinking of doing Le 1000 Du SUD next week on this one. Just built it up and it climbs well....it better.....620 miles with 48,000 feet of climbing in a few days of riding with the strawberry on the cake....Col du Galibier. It will take a true 28 mm tire. Plenty. Light bivvy bag. Some wool. Goretex rain shell. Done.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=2022826&postcount=1

weisan
08-26-2016, 07:41 PM
rando pal = Magneto

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/11/article-0-049D8D6E0000044D-853_306x459.jpg

ripvanrando
08-26-2016, 07:44 PM
rando pal = Magneto

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/11/article-0-049D8D6E0000044D-853_306x459.jpg

I am hard.

No doubt some can't take me.

I intend well for all. Peace to all.

Nags&Ducs
08-26-2016, 07:51 PM
Fender mount, difficult to discern due to the reflection emanating from the polished fender.

Ahhhh got it! Thanks man!

adamhell
08-26-2016, 10:00 PM
that chapman is fribbing sickKkk!!! almost same color as my lighthouse.

here is my "rando" bike; it's not like i've ever done a brevet or whatever.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h184/adamleibow/BF29497E-BBEF-4ED8-847B-8D34B040C91D_zpsftkvwpbl.jpg

don compton
08-26-2016, 10:56 PM
Brian put together a bunch of process pics of my last build
http://www.chapmancycles.com/slideshows/ryan_c_650B/


http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae236/bicycletricycle/Chapman%20Cycles/FB9672D8-9DE9-404E-BC1F-5EFA2BD0F02E_zpsknnwunag.jpg (http://s975.photobucket.com/user/bicycletricycle/media/Chapman%20Cycles/FB9672D8-9DE9-404E-BC1F-5EFA2BD0F02E_zpsknnwunag.jpg.html)
I have owned a few great steel bikes ( Tournesol, Rex, Rivendell) and truly enjoyed them. I just have to say, your bikes are so well built for your riding style.
Very impressive.
Thanks for the pics:beer:

davidj
09-06-2016, 06:37 AM
My Rando - Toussaint Velo 650B

ripvanrando
09-06-2016, 07:40 AM
Family and professional commitments have been getting into the way of my randonneuring but this is my latest randonneuring bike. I like looking at all the different styles of Audax bikes. It is setup for light touring right now but the addition of lights only takes a few minutes. I'd do a 1200k in a heartbeat on this rig.

numbskull
09-06-2016, 10:45 AM
Fascinating.
Raises the question as to how important the bike actually is for randoneering.
Or, perhaps, just illustrates how bike choice changes as speed becomes a greater priority.
If you were starting out in the discipline would such a bike be appropriate or do you feel that only after years of experience and thousands of miles of training can one expect to be successful mastering long distances on a bike of similar "routine road" geometry?

oldpotatoe
09-06-2016, 11:15 AM
Family and professional commitments have been getting into the way of my randonneuring but this is my latest randonneuring bike. I like looking at all the different styles of Audax bikes. It is setup for light touring right now but the addition of lights only takes a few minutes. I'd do a 1200k in a heartbeat on this rig.

I'm sorry, no 650b, no low trail fork with front rack, no small diameter steel tubes with internal wiring for Dynamo front hub and I bet it doesn't even shimmy...sorry, 'rando-ing' on that Pinarello isn't possible, it may be illegal.

:D:D;):cool::rolleyes:

bicycletricycle
09-06-2016, 11:43 AM
Family and professional commitments have been getting into the way of my randonneuring but this is my latest randonneuring bike. I like looking at all the different styles of Audax bikes. It is setup for light touring right now but the addition of lights only takes a few minutes. I'd do a 1200k in a heartbeat on this rig.

I really like this bike. looks like it gets some miles.

Mzilliox
09-06-2016, 12:05 PM
Family and professional commitments have been getting into the way of my randonneuring but this is my latest randonneuring bike. I like looking at all the different styles of Audax bikes. It is setup for light touring right now but the addition of lights only takes a few minutes. I'd do a 1200k in a heartbeat on this rig.

cool rig, what saddle have you chosen?

ripvanrando
09-06-2016, 12:39 PM
cool rig, what saddle have you chosen?

I have a Specialized Romin 155mm on it, it is fine but not my favorite. I intended my Berthoud Aravis but it lacks the setback due to short rails. I'm trying to find an original Pinarello Most 31.0 seatpost because it has the 20 mm setback I need in order to use my trusty Berthoud. Thanks.

ripvanrando
09-06-2016, 12:54 PM
I'm sorry, no 650b, no low trail fork with front rack, no small diameter steel tubes with internal wiring for Dynamo front hub and I bet it doesn't even shimmy...sorry, 'rando-ing' on that Pinarello isn't possible, it may be illegal.

:D:D;):cool::rolleyes:

Funny how many different bike types can be used successfully on Brevets. I saw a total of four 650B low trail bikes while on PBP last year. I saw Jan Hein on his machine at around sunrise in Loudeac on the first morning and there were three fellows from San Francisco on such bikes. I rode 25 mm tires on a carbon framed bike with handlebar bar hung from the bars but did use a leather Berthoud saddle. I am sure there were many, many more antique retro 40's type rando bikes on the route but I did not see them. I respect anyone lugging all the gear up and down the hills. Twenty years ago these low trail machines with big tires simply did not exist on Brevets. I might get one someday but not until a bit later. I was kinda towards the front and did not see all the riders's bikes and on the way back their lights were blinding me all the way to Tintineac, so, I can't say how many of these bikes are used but it does seem to be an American thing especially in certain areas of the country. I like looking at them.

bicycletricycle
09-06-2016, 01:11 PM
that is interesting to know. I really like the big tires, not sure what I would choose for a super long ride, my knee wont let me anyways so it is all conjecture. I am sure that on smooth road anything bigger than 28 or something is slower. I do like that when I get tired or when it is dark I don't get as slammed by unseen potholes or drains. So far for anything up to 100 miles I find the bigger tires fast enough and a nice choice to have, especially for rides that include bad roads.

heck, some people ride the PBP fixed, fastest choice is not always the best choice, some one did it on a big wheel scooter as well.

Funny how many different bike types can be used successfully on Brevets. I saw a total of four 650B low trail bikes while on PBP last year. I saw Jan Hein on his machine at around sunrise in Loudeac on the first morning and there were three fellows from San Francisco on such bikes. I rode 25 mm tires on a carbon framed bike with handlebar bar hung from the bars but did use a leather Berthoud saddle. I am sure there were many, many more antique retro 40's type rando bikes on the route but I did not see them. I respect anyone lugging all the gear up and down the hills. Twenty years ago these low trail machines with big tires simply did not exist on Brevets. I might get one someday but not until a bit later. I was kinda towards the front and did not see all the riders's bikes and on the way back their lights were blinding me all the way to Tintineac, so, I can't say how many of these bikes are used but it does seem to be an American thing especially in certain areas of the country. I like looking at them.

oldpotatoe
09-06-2016, 01:28 PM
Funny how many different bike types can be used successfully on Brevets. I saw a total of four 650B low trail bikes while on PBP last year. I saw Jan Hein on his machine at around sunrise in Loudeac on the first morning and there were three fellows from San Francisco on such bikes. I rode 25 mm tires on a carbon framed bike with handlebar bar hung from the bars but did use a leather Berthoud saddle. I am sure there were many, many more antique retro 40's type rando bikes on the route but I did not see them. I respect anyone lugging all the gear up and down the hills. Twenty years ago these low trail machines with big tires simply did not exist on Brevets. I might get one someday but not until a bit later. I was kinda towards the front and did not see all the riders's bikes and on the way back their lights were blinding me all the way to Tintineac, so, I can't say how many of these bikes are used but it does seem to be an American thing especially in certain areas of the country. I like looking at them.

I've built 2 bikes for P-B-P..both Moots. One just a Vamoots/Record 10 with handlebar bag, the other one with Rohloff rear, concentric BB and H-Bar bag...

KidWok
09-06-2016, 01:29 PM
Some recent adventures on my Soma Double Cross Disc...

Craigdarroch Castle in Victoria, BC.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160903_162837_zpsx6qodsda.jpg

Brandy and cider tasting at Merridale on Vancouver Island.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160904_133112_zpskoij7o4h.jpg

Bike camping with my boys. I used the bike to haul all our gear 5 miles from trailhead to campsite. Front and rear panniers with a Burley Travoy trailer as well. Boys had to walk, but I gave them rides on my handlebar when they got tired.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160828_090235_zpsygu5svij.jpg

For non-loaded rides, the purple Gunnar Crosshairs is my go-to bike. It always runs with a Swift Industries handlebar bag and I add a saddle bag if necessary.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/Mobile%20Uploads/20150221_133133_zpscxkugovz.jpg

Tai

ripvanrando
09-06-2016, 01:51 PM
that is interesting to know. I really like the big tires, not sure what I would choose for a super long ride, my knee wont let me anyways so it is all conjecture. I am sure that on smooth road anything bigger than 28 or something is slower. I do like that when I get tired or when it is dark I don't get as slammed by unseen potholes or drains. So far for anything up to 100 miles I find the bigger tires fast enough and a nice choice to have, especially for rides that include bad roads.

heck, some people ride the PBP fixed, fastest choice is not always the best choice, some one did it on a big wheel scooter as well.

Totally agree. It is all about the 6 inches between our ears and having a good ride. Failure to complete a ride is more about fitness, correct clothing for conditions, not throwing up, and proper eating/drinking more so than bike choice. I like looking at fellow Rando's choices in gear. Very interesting how there are different solutions.

WRT to tires, I ride 23, 25, 28....up to a 38 mm width. They all work. Tire selection is very complicated because rider speed and road surfaces vary so much. I like 28 mm actual width tires about the best for all around riding on the chip seal country roads. I don't mind changing a flat once in a while. I suppose if I were that keen, a trip to the A2 wind tunnel would be more definitive but a supple casing 28 mm tire is comfy without too big a price in aero drag.....maybe not quite as comfy as a top of the line 28 mm tubular but not far off. Speaking of which riders have done PBP on tubulars....seen it with my own eyes.

unterhausen
09-06-2016, 02:36 PM
if someone wants to try randonneuring, they should just use a bike they are comfortable on. It's starting to get to the time of year where there are large swings in temperature, so a way to carry extra clothing is a good idea. I have a large seat bag for that, sometimes I have used a hydration pack without the bladder. On a 200km brevet, lights don't have to be that good, but you probably will need reflective clothing. Unless you are fast, the 400k starts to put a premium on good lights, that was a mistake I made my first 400k.

The bike can be anything. My first season of randonneuring, I used an early '80s racing bike and it worked fine. I tend to think that sort of bike is better than a heavy touring bike, but plenty of randonneurs ride those.

Navigation is another issue, a cue sheet holder is a really important thing. A GPS can certainly work, but randonneuring puts a real stress on most of them, so practicing some long rides with the GPS is a good idea. I always carry a backup cue sheet if I'm going to rely on my GPS.

numbskull
09-12-2016, 07:04 PM
This may interest some.
http://www.handbuiltbicyclenews.com/c40-shows--events/211-concours-de-machines-part-two

seric
09-12-2016, 07:12 PM
This may interest some.
http://www.handbuiltbicyclenews.com/c40-shows--events/211-concours-de-machines-part-two

I dig that channeled stem.

ripvanrando
09-13-2016, 03:55 AM
I really like your Gunnar. Beautiful bike.

I'm currently building/resurrecting a somewhat old Peter Mooney and wanting to get the look right and I was thinking of doing components that look like what you have on the bike simply because I have almost all of the stuff laying around. Partly because an old, nice quill stem and bits like that are pricey for a bike that is going to get Philthy. Probably no frogs on my Swift but will have them on the crank. Nice bike.

Some recent adventures on my Soma Double Cross Disc...

Craigdarroch Castle in Victoria, BC.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160903_162837_zpsx6qodsda.jpg

Brandy and cider tasting at Merridale on Vancouver Island.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160904_133112_zpskoij7o4h.jpg

Bike camping with my boys. I used the bike to haul all our gear 5 miles from trailhead to campsite. Front and rear panniers with a Burley Travoy trailer as well. Boys had to walk, but I gave them rides on my handlebar when they got tired.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160828_090235_zpsygu5svij.jpg

For non-loaded rides, the purple Gunnar Crosshairs is my go-to bike. It always runs with a Swift Industries handlebar bag and I add a saddle bag if necessary.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/Mobile%20Uploads/20150221_133133_zpscxkugovz.jpg

Tai

weisan
11-15-2016, 05:17 AM
Time to revive this to get more randonneur bikes on the pages...

SlowPokePete
11-15-2016, 06:12 AM
Can't wait until later when I have time to take a proper look through some of the nice bikes in this thread.

It is this type of bike that has my interest lately.

Horribly rainy and cold out right now but hoping to make the commute home later.

Here's mine.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z142/SlowPokePete/Misc%202016/9A7EFAFB-CF8C-495B-9264-D351D2C7AF4E_zpsth3yqynq.jpg (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/SlowPokePete/media/Misc%202016/9A7EFAFB-CF8C-495B-9264-D351D2C7AF4E_zpsth3yqynq.jpg.html)

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z142/SlowPokePete/Misc%202016/90CD86C1-F2A9-4363-AC10-BECB045321BA_zps9fn4cj2z.jpg (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/SlowPokePete/media/Misc%202016/90CD86C1-F2A9-4363-AC10-BECB045321BA_zps9fn4cj2z.jpg.html)

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z142/SlowPokePete/Misc%202016/E9044A41-3718-4080-B69D-8F7ED1D02462_zpsgassecmj.jpg (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/SlowPokePete/media/Misc%202016/E9044A41-3718-4080-B69D-8F7ED1D02462_zpsgassecmj.jpg.html)

SPP

ripvanrando
11-15-2016, 06:38 AM
Nice rig. I'd put the flask down when setting the fender lines. :D

R3awak3n
11-15-2016, 11:12 AM
that ahearn is AMAZING. Love the bars, kinda want some on my elephant

Dunno if I had posted here or not. I don't really rando but I guess this is rando inspired

http://i64.tinypic.com/2qxxrgw.jpg

Mzilliox
11-15-2016, 11:26 AM
Some recent adventures on my Soma Double Cross Disc...

Craigdarroch Castle in Victoria, BC.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160903_162837_zpsx6qodsda.jpg

Brandy and cider tasting at Merridale on Vancouver Island.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160904_133112_zpskoij7o4h.jpg

Bike camping with my boys. I used the bike to haul all our gear 5 miles from trailhead to campsite. Front and rear panniers with a Burley Travoy trailer as well. Boys had to walk, but I gave them rides on my handlebar when they got tired.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/20160828_090235_zpsygu5svij.jpg

For non-loaded rides, the purple Gunnar Crosshairs is my go-to bike. It always runs with a Swift Industries handlebar bag and I add a saddle bag if necessary.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/TaiLee77/Mobile%20Uploads/20150221_133133_zpscxkugovz.jpg

Tai

i dig your bikes, especially that Gunnar

72gmc
11-15-2016, 11:47 AM
My only bike. No brevets yet, but this style of bike is a good fit for all of the things I do. 700x28s and fenders every day, Paul Ginos holding battery lights on the rack mounts, and future plans that include a dynamo and mixed road misadventures. I like to have options.

SlowPokePete
11-15-2016, 06:20 PM
Nice rig. I'd put the flask down when setting the fender lines. :D

It's an optical illusion...fenders are straight.

SPP

lukeheller
11-15-2016, 08:42 PM
Orange Elephant as I rode it in PBP 2015. Also rode it in CHC 2014, and ToC 2013.
Then it got a major makeover. Shortened TT, discs added, 650b's and all browned up.

Carver ti-rando. S&S couplers. 700x35's + fenders.
As I rode it in Cascade 1200 in 2016.

All bikes running triples.... usually 28-36-48.
All bikes running Shimergo - Campy 10, Shimano 8.

weisan
11-15-2016, 09:18 PM
Luke pal, I saw my future somewhere in those bikes you have...

miguel
11-16-2016, 01:02 PM
hi luke
im pretty sure we rode together for a minute at pbp and i volunteered at the packwood overnight on c1200 - we spoke about dukes mayo.

lukeheller
11-16-2016, 01:12 PM
@miguel - I was in randohaze at packwood but I do recall and Duke mayo talk for sure! And.... a discussion about needle bearing headsets- was that you?


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miguel
11-16-2016, 01:30 PM
maybe? all i know is the needle bearing will help the shimmy

lukeheller
11-16-2016, 02:07 PM
The Packwood control was impressively staffed! Thanks for volunteering Miguel. A Seattle randonneur volunteer saved my ride (or just my wheel) at packwood. After day one on the Cascade, we had seen rain for nearly 200 of the 250 or so miles. The bearings in my dura-ace rear hub (that had been serviced 700km before the ride) went completely dry. He lent me his wheel while other volunteers took my wheel to a shop and brought it to me on day 3 after they found an open shop. The Cascade has got to be the best supported domestic 1200k.

Enough banter. Here's another rando bike:
https://instagram.com/p/2tt9_bnmnu/
This was my first rando bike; Rivendell Canti-Rom. I ran VO aluminum pho-hammered fenders for a long time on this. Could never kept the fender rattle silent on that bike.


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miguel
11-16-2016, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I think that was Gary. He's a member here also but I don't think he posts too often.

Come visit again! Or get your 2017 club schedule up and I'll come visit!

Mzilliox
06-24-2017, 10:53 PM
Thread revival. I have a his and hers set being built,
but in the mean time, Berty got updated to Campagnolo 10s, Odom wheels, and lots of sass
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4160/33907101410_f1066abe2e_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TEfKWJ)Berthoud does gravel (https://flic.kr/p/TEfKWJ) by Matt.zilliox (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41573599@N06/), on Flickr

weisan
06-24-2017, 11:35 PM
I've got bikes that can serve double duty as a full-on randonnuer bike, but that's not the issue....the real issue is I need a well-constituted butt that is willing to ride anything more than 60 miles or 4 hours without complaining.

unterhausen
06-25-2017, 12:09 AM
I'm not going to pretend that my butt doesn't present a struggle. Right now, my saddle interface is no problem, but I used a pair of Voler shorts too much last year and wore a soft spot on my left butt cheek with the decorative stitching. Unfortunately, most of my shorts are Volers. Now I can't ride most of my shorts for more than about 100 miles before that part starts complaining.

Drmojo
06-25-2017, 09:59 AM
apply liberally and often
bring some on yr long rides
brave soldier or bag balm
endurance shield is my new favorite

lukeheller
06-25-2017, 10:06 AM
Lantiseptic is the next kept rando secret IMO


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8aaron8
06-25-2017, 10:53 AM
I feel as though I can ride this one all day

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4257/35159170945_a7c3498fb6_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4282/35028543231_912d51bc38_b.jpg

witcombusa
06-25-2017, 11:29 AM
My 1973 Gypsy...
(Gitane Gran Tourisme)

Pastashop
06-25-2017, 02:25 PM
My 1973 Gypsy...

(Gitane Gran Tourisme)



Nice bike!

I've seen those brake levers on a couple of bikes, and always wondered: What do you do for braking from the drops?.. or does that never come up?

ripvanrando
06-30-2017, 04:37 PM
A randonneuring bike is merely one that gets you to the distance within the prescribed times and in that spirit, I share my 2019 PBP ride.

gone
06-30-2017, 06:05 PM
All of my bikes are randonneur bikes in the sense that I've done brevets on all of them. Here's one that I'm selling. Love it to death but way too many bikes.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/ghsmith54/0811141124_zpskg6zsifl.jpg

weisan
06-30-2017, 06:24 PM
I see a number of bikes posted with a front loaded bag... Just curious, what do y'all put inside? :D

v531xc
06-30-2017, 07:20 PM
All of my bikes are randonneur bikes in the sense that I've done brevets on all of them. Here's one that I'm selling. Love it to death but way too many bikes.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/ghsmith54/0811141124_zpskg6zsifl.jpg



whoa, tell me more!


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witcombusa
06-30-2017, 07:29 PM
Nice bike!

I've seen those brake levers on a couple of bikes, and always wondered: What do you do for braking from the drops?.. or does that never come up?

The only time I'd be in the drops would be fighting a headwind. It's never been a problem so far. The Guidonnet levers fit the personality of the bike well and work with the hand positions I use the most.

Mzilliox
06-30-2017, 11:03 PM
I see a number of bikes posted with a front loaded bag... Just curious, what do y'all put inside? :D

Whatever I need. Coffee. Beer. Book. Weed. Extra clothes. Food. Speakers. Dogs. Whatcha got?

numbskull
07-01-2017, 05:49 AM
I feel as though I can ride this one all day

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4257/35159170945_a7c3498fb6_b.jpg


I feel as though I could look at that one all day. Very nice.

gomango
07-01-2017, 05:58 AM
Three of my four centuries this season have been on my Hollands.

Gotta love EL-OS! :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4229/35405286571_9e95c25736_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VWDmcn)4th century of the summer. 3rd on my Hollands. Great bike. I love EL-OS. (https://flic.kr/p/VWDmcn) by gomango1849 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/36270004@N06/), on Flickr

Many of my long distance gravel rides have been on my Monstercross.

What a comfortable bike!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4241/35156925181_a881d4d0b2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VyGr1r)74 miles today! Hello summer vacation! (https://flic.kr/p/VyGr1r) by gomango1849 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/36270004@N06/), on Flickr

merckx
07-01-2017, 06:54 AM
Three of my four centuries this season have been on my Hollands.

Gotta love EL-OS! :)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4229/35405286571_9e95c25736_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VWDmcn)4th century of the summer. 3rd on my Hollands. Great bike. I love EL-OS. (https://flic.kr/p/VWDmcn) by gomango1849 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/36270004@N06/), on Flickr

Many of my long distance gravel rides have been on my Monstercross.

What a comfortable bike!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4241/35156925181_a881d4d0b2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VyGr1r)74 miles today! Hello summer vacation! (https://flic.kr/p/VyGr1r) by gomango1849 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/36270004@N06/), on Flickr

Gotta love the Ideale 90 on that Hollands!

gomango
07-01-2017, 08:27 AM
Gotta love the Ideale 90 on that Hollands!

Hah, I bought two of them decades ago.

One for a back up.

I'm still on the first one. :)

merckx
07-01-2017, 09:12 AM
Hah, I bought two of them decades ago.

One for a back up.

I'm still on the first one. :)

I just dusted off my Ideale model 80 that was attached to my 1976 Motobecane. It is a bit misshapen, but it has survived more than 40 years of employment! I am looking forward to the purchase of a new Model 90 when they become available. The on-line photos look promising.

gomango
07-01-2017, 10:18 AM
I just dusted off my Ideale model 80 that was attached to my 1976 Motobecane. It is a bit misshapen, but it has survived more than 40 years of employment! I am looking forward to the purchase of a new Model 90 when they become available. The on-line photos look promising.

I like 80s as well.

They should reissue the 90 though.

The examples on ebay are priced through the roof.

I wonder if people actually pay some of those prices?

merckx
07-01-2017, 11:59 AM
I like 80s as well.

They should reissue the 90 though.

The examples on ebay are priced through the roof.

I wonder if people actually pay some of those prices?

ETA on the new Ideale 90 saddles is fall from the last word I heard. It is a pity that current Brooks saddles are manufactured from cardboard. I like the shape of the Pro and B17, but they do not last. My Ideale 80 has been abused over the years, but remains usable. The leather on the 80 is certainly more robust than the Brooks I've seen lately. Another saddle to get a nod is Berthoud.