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BigDaddySmooth
06-24-2011, 08:06 PM
Well,
I have been riding a mid 90's CSi after finally landing one on eBay. Steel fork, tapered seat tube, tapered seat stays, and wishbone chain stays. What is it that makes it ride like it rides? What is the mystique of the legendary CSi?

Pete Serotta
06-24-2011, 08:11 PM
They work well but also Bedford, Kirk, Kellogg, Ellis Sachs and others work well today.

Whichever puts a smile on your face is wonderful


Enjoy


Pete

Ahneida Ride
06-24-2011, 10:30 PM
It was built by some of the BEST guys out there.

Bedford, Kirk, Wages.

I rode the very last one ever built.
Amazing bike.

timto
06-24-2011, 11:18 PM
bigdaddysmooth - congrats on the serotta. You need to post a pic! I scored a CRL and it's stuck in the mail because of the canadapost strike. I hope it gets here quick cause i want to give it a whir. Pretty stoked as I've wanted a steel serotta for ever. I hope it lives up to the hype!

victoryfactory
06-25-2011, 07:49 AM
The culmination of Mr Serotta's design and experience
in lugged steel at the time, executed by one
of those artisans mentioned above. That's what.

I would love to try one built today of the very latest
tubing.

Take a number, though

VF

Jeff N.
06-25-2011, 11:21 AM
The oft used quote, "It's The Tubing, Dammit!", pretty much sums it up. A little JB paint doesn't hurt either. Jeff N. http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1402/img1441pg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/img1441pg.jpg/)

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fourflys
06-25-2011, 11:24 AM
you what would be awesome? a list of all the different models and the general differences... I've heard of CSi, CSL, Atlanta, etc... just not sure what the differences are and with the robust second-hand market of Serottas, that would be a useful list... I know that sounds like a daunting task though...

just a thought...

SoCalSteve
06-25-2011, 06:30 PM
The oft used quote, "It's The Tubing, Dammit!", pretty much sums it up. A little JB paint doesn't hurt either. Jeff N. http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1402/img1441pg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/img1441pg.jpg/)

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Wait, I know that bike!!! But, when I owned it, it looked very different. But, still a very stable bike. Steel is real, damnit!

Jeff N.
06-25-2011, 07:07 PM
Yep-yep! Good eye, Steve. What do you think CSI stands for? I'm guessing...and this is only a wild guess..."Columbus Steel, Italian". Jeff N.

oliver1850
06-25-2011, 10:04 PM
you what would be awesome? a list of all the different models and the general differences... I've heard of CSi, CSL, Atlanta, etc... just not sure what the differences are and with the robust second-hand market of Serottas, that would be a useful list... I know that sounds like a daunting task though...

just a thought...


This needs to be done, and put where people can find it when they need it. It would probably take several knowledgeable people's input to get all the details right.

John M
06-26-2011, 08:20 AM
My two cents is that the rock solid flex-free aluminum and carbon frames that everyone seems to prefer over the past several years don't ride nearly as nicely as a springy steel frame.

fourflys
06-26-2011, 09:05 AM
This needs to be done, and put where people can find it when they need it. It would probably take several knowledgeable people's input to get all the details right.

I wish I had the knowledge to do it...

Mike748
06-26-2011, 02:42 PM
club sport improved?

Ken Robb
06-26-2011, 02:51 PM
While we are taking SWAGs I think the "C" might refer to "Colorado" for the tubing used.

dgauthier
06-26-2011, 04:18 PM
Well,
I have been riding a mid 90's CSi after finally landing one on eBay. Steel fork, tapered seat tube, tapered seat stays, and wishbone chain stays. What is it that makes it ride like it rides? What is the mystique of the legendary CSi?

Just curious: what ride qualities are you referring to? (I'm a steel fan myself, so I know about the smoothness, the stability, and the way a good steel frame seems to store the energy from each pedal stroke and feed it back into the next.) What qualities about your CSi do you find especially impressive?

BigDaddySmooth
06-27-2011, 07:35 AM
The frameset feels very connected to the road and it really smooths it out without feeling noodle-like. It is "springy." The 1" fork seems to lack compared to my Yamaguchi w/1.25" fork, but aft of the fork the frame seeems very solid. I wonder if the Csi, built by the same builder, but strictly with 1" round tubes, no tapering of the seat-stays and straight chain-stays would ride the same. As is, it sure looks cool :beer:

Ken Robb
06-27-2011, 09:31 AM
The frameset feels very connected to the road and it really smooths it out without feeling noodle-like. It is "springy." The 1" fork seems to lack compared to my Yamaguchi w/1.25" fork, but aft of the fork the frame seeems very solid. I wonder if the Csi, built by the same builder, but strictly with 1" round tubes, no tapering of the seat-stays and straight chain-stays would ride the same. As is, it sure looks cool :beer:

If it had all round tubes it would not be a CSi. Ben emphasized the importance of the Colorado tube set in making his bikes superior.

victoryfactory
06-27-2011, 09:39 AM
While we are taking SWAGs I think the "C" might refer to "Colorado" for the tubing used.

I think CSI stands for Corsa Strada <somehing>
or maybe Colorado Steel <something>

Mr Serotta's model names are harder to figure out
than Steely Dan lyrics...

Birddog
06-27-2011, 09:56 AM
IIRC, the subject of the meaning of CSi came up a couple years ago, and nobody then at Serotta could remember what it stood for. I don't think Dave Kirk could remember either, but I might be mistaken. It adds to the mystique. "Who was that masked man?"

c-record
06-27-2011, 10:16 AM
Colorado Steel Intelligence