Two former pro cyclists walk into a bar...

[LegendRider]

http://outside-blog.away.com/blog/2011/06/lance-armstrong-and-tyler-hamilton-walk-into-a-bar.html

[redir]

For some reason several months ago I started getting Outside Magazine delivered to my address. I have no idea why. I never ordered it. It's like junk mail but it does have some interesting articles once in a while.

[hurdlingreggie]

For some reason several months ago I started getting Outside Magazine delivered to my address. I have no idea why. I never ordered it. It's like junk mail but it does have some interesting articles once in a while.

If you recently placed a Nashbar order, that's why. The same thing happened to me. And it was especially nice when they finally sent a bill for it. Outside Magazine and Nashbar both got a call for that one. I recommend cancelling it asap (unless you enjoy it!).

[LegendRider]

If you recently placed a Nashbar order, that's why. The same thing happened to me. And it was especially nice when they finally sent a bill for it. Outside Magazine and Nashbar both got a call for that one. I recommend cancelling it asap (unless you enjoy it!).

Outside typically has a lot of fluff, but they also generally have one article per issue that's worthwhile. Krakauer, Cahill, etc. are really good writers. I still cancelled my subscription however...

[William]

"Hamilton went back to his table and the restaurant’s owner, Jodi Larner, a good friend of Armstrong’s, told Hamilton that he could finish his meal but wasn’t welcome back at the restaurant."

:rolleyes: :bike:


W.

[dawgie]

For some reason several months ago I started getting Outside Magazine delivered to my address. I have no idea why. I never ordered it. It's like junk mail but it does have some interesting articles once in a while.

Watch your credit card statements! The same thing happened to me and then I noticed a $35 renewal charge on my credit card bill one month. I called and told them to cancel the subscription and refund the money. The took the payment off my account but kept sending the magazine, and then billed me again for a renewal a year later. I called again and finally got the subscription canceled completely.

[GregL]

Thanks for the head's up on the Outside mag subscription. I placed a Nashbar order in April. Now I know why I received Outside mag in May and June. Time to call them up and halt this BS.

-Greg

[Scott Shire]

I don't know if LA doped, and don't much care at this point, but TH's lame attempts to sell a book that nobody would have thought of buying before the 60 Minutes story are beyond transparent. Snitches get stitches.

I only use amex gift cards at Nashbar these days. Place is WAY to loose with info.

[schwa86]

+1 on heads up -- couldn't figure out why I was receiving either...

[rice rocket]

Blog journalism is the worst.

Actually no, what CNN does now on Headline News is even worse (lets sit around and discuss what "might" have happened instead of going to find the facts). Jon Stewart has a field day with them almost daily now.

[Kevan]

If what happened did, I think it pretty slimmy that the restaurant owner did what she did. Join the fray!

[redir]

Geesh thanks for the heads up on the Magazine. I ordered a fork from Nashbar like 8 months ago.

Sorry to hijack the thread.

Back on topic, I look forward to when Lance et al are no longer even a topic of discussion. It's yesterday's snow at this point IMHO.

[InspectorGadget]

Flagpole after school. :fight:

[William]

Flagpole after school. :fight:

"OH YEAH!?!? WELL, ALL MY LAWYERS ARE BIGGER THEN YOUR LAWYER!!!" :p



W. ;)

[firerescuefin]

Snitches get stitches.

Did you come up with that on your own? Actually, Lance and his mafia probably use that phrase.

[Dekonick]

If true, LA is a bigger piece of $h!t than I thought... There are enough reports about his (lack of) interpersonal skills that no matter what you say there has to be some truth to it... He is a bully... One day his trash talk will be with the wrong person and they will take him to the flag pole... at 3 o'clock high... (great movie if you haven't seen it...)

[Lifelover]

Flagpole after school.


For another Pro cyclist fight!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/2289890947_cbb325d400_o.gif

Child Please!

[san]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2BQKWbmkbvE/TDey-XEigRI/AAAAAAAAAho/j5c19nkXrFw/s1600/bettiniphoto_0056389_1_full_600.jpg
BAM!

[rice rocket]

^^ How did he acquire an extra wheel just before the fight broke out?

[Dekonick]

For another cyclist fight!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/2289890947_cbb325d400_o.gif

Child Please!


Hahaha! Yeah, most cyclists aren't going to instill fear in others... wouldn't want to tangle with William or Paul though...

[Lifelover]

Hahaha! Yeah, most cyclists aren't going to instill fear in others... wouldn't want to tangle with William or Paul though...
Agreed! I added the word "Pro"

[Hawker]

Would like to have been a fly on the wall...or the stall.

[BumbleBeeDave]

I don't know if LA doped, and don't much care at this point, but TH's lame attempts to sell a book that nobody would have thought of buying before the 60 Minutes story are beyond transparent. Snitches get stitches.

I only use amex gift cards at Nashbar these days. Place is WAY to loose with info.

. . . to anywhere that says anything about Hamilton's alleged book besides what has been promulgated by Lance's lawyers in their attempts to portray TH as an agenda driven liar?

Did the 60 Minutes piece mention anything about Hamilton's alleged book to be released? (I didn't see the whole 60 Minutes piece.)

The really sad thing about this described event is that based on past reports of LA's behavior, I have no problem believing that Lance would behave in the way described. It's fully consistent with his chasing down Simeoni, stiff-arming the poor schmuck in the yellow & black devil costume at the ToC, berating Paul Kimmage at the ToC press conference, etc.

Armstrong gives every evidence through his public displays of being, underneath it all, nothing more than an egotistical, arrogant bully. That's what really sad about this incident--it's so easy to believe Lance behaved this way.

BBD

[Lifelover]

. . . to anywhere that says anything about Hamilton's alleged book besides what has been promulgated by Lance's lawyers in their attempts to portray TH as an agenda driven liar?

Did the 60 Minutes piece mention anything about Hamilton's alleged book to be released? (I didn't see the whole 60 Minutes piece.)

The really sad thing about this described event is that based on past reports of LA's behavior, I have no problem believing that Lance would behave in the way described. It's fully consistent with his chasing down Simeoni, stiff-arming the poor schmuck in the yellow & black devil costume at the ToC, berating Paul Kimmage at the ToC press conference, etc.

Armstrong gives every evidence through his public displays of being, underneath it all, nothing more than an egotistical, arrogant bully. That's what really sad about this incident--it's so easy to believe Lance behaved this way.

BBD


It's easy to believe what makes us feel better about ourselves.

Believing and being are not the same thing.

[BumbleBeeDave]

It's easy to believe what makes us feel better about ourselves.

Believing and being are not the same thing.

. . . does this have to do with what I just posted? :confused:

BBD

[Dekonick]

It's easy to believe what makes us feel better about ourselves.

Believing and being are not the same thing.

Seems like you may be the one in denial... Do you honestly believe LA is a gentleman and scholar? WAY too many reports to the contrary for me to support him. Hell of a cyclist. No doubt. Still doesn't exclude him from being an A$$hole bully. He might only have one ball, but he sure swings it around like a mace.

[Lifelover]

Seems like you may be the one in denial... Do you honestly believe LA is a gentleman and scholar? WAY too many reports to the contrary for me to support him. Hell of a cyclist. No doubt. Still doesn't exclude him from being an A$$hole bully. He might only have one ball, but he sure swings it around like a mace.


Outside of his cycling, I don't think you will find anything I have written that condones or condemns his actions. I have no strong opinions of him as a business man, a friend, a father, a husband or a person.

I have no strong opinions in these regards because I have no knowledge.

ATMO, there is an agenda behind feeling so strongly against (or for) someone that you have no first, second or even third hand knowledge of.

The recent thread about Simeoni was a good example. The only fact that came from that discussion was that neither I or the people arguing against LA had a clue what really happened.

Each his own, maybe the hate is productive.

[BumbleBeeDave]

Outside of his cycling, I don't think you will find anything I have written that condones or condemns his actions. I have no strong opinions of him as a business man, a friend, a father, a husband or a person.

I have no strong opinions in these regards because I have no knowledge.

ATMO, there is an agenda behind feeling so strongly against (or for) someone that you have no first, second or even third hand knowledge of.

The recent thread about Simeoni was a good example. The only fact that came from that discussion was that neither I or the people arguing against LA had a clue what really happened.

Each his own, maybe the hate is productive.

. . . No. Experience? Yes.

Just before I started second grade we moved from Little Rock to Chicago. I was the strange new kid with the hillbilly accent and was bullied mercilessly. My parents gave me the "turn the other cheek bullsh*t and did nothing.

I have a special spot inside for bullies and it ain't a soft one. Lance has publicly exhibited almost all the classic psychological signs of a bully. He is a great athlete and champion cyclist. He is also a classic bully with all the personal issues that go with such. I still admire his athletic ability and was as proud as anyone when he won his first TdF. But once he began getting out in public and displaying this behavior he lost me. He has continued to exhibit the behavior and, if anything, gotten more brazen as the years have passed.

Now, LL, what experience do YOU have with bullies? Come on, let's hear it.

BBD

[indyrider]

I have a special spot inside for bullies and it ain't a soft one. Lance has publicly exhibited almost all the classic psychological signs of a bully.

Now, LL, what experience do YOU have with bullies? Come on, let's hear it.

BBD

As a psych nurse, I will corroborate BBD's analysis that LA exhibits these classic bullying signs. Anyone with half a brain and absolutely no psych experience could tell that given just a couple of examples of LA's behavior.

Now for LL, it appears that you are exhibiting classic denial behavior which anyone can see except for the person experiencing the symptoms. OR you are just LA shill and will never admit to his a$$holeness even WHEN LA is convicted.

[LegendRider]

ATMO, there is an agenda behind feeling so strongly against (or for) someone that you have no first, second or even third hand knowledge of.

We all have plenty of second-hand knowledge about Lance - that's the point. From the multiple accounts of people who were in a position to know, we've have a consistent picture being painted.

[JMerring]

Outside of his cycling, I don't think you will find anything I have written that condones or condemns his actions. I have no strong opinions of him as a business man, a friend, a father, a husband or a person.

I have no strong opinions in these regards because I have no knowledge.

ATMO, there is an agenda behind feeling so strongly against (or for) someone that you have no first, second or even third hand knowledge of.

The recent thread about Simeoni was a good example. The only fact that came from that discussion was that neither I or the people arguing against LA had a clue what really happened.

Each his own, maybe the hate is productive.

There is a wealth of information out there if you are inclined to inform yourself. One other thing - 'agenda' is lance-speak and an attempt to obfuscate.