Tour de Suisse spoiler

[alembical]

Results
1 Chris Horner (USA) Saunier Duval-Prodir 4.24.43
2 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 1.12
3 Michael Rogers (Aus) Quick Step 1.14
4 Frank Schleck (Lux) Team CSC
5 Koldo Gil Perez (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team
6 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) Phonak Hearing Systems
7 Leonardo Piepoli (Ita) Saunier Duval-Prodir
8 Aitor Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
9 Fabian Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir
10 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 1.48
11 Bradley McGee (Aus) Française Des Jeux
12 Patrick Sinkewitz (Ger) Quick Step
13 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Fassa Bortolo

General classification after stage 6

1 Michael Rogers (Aus) Quick Step 21.28.40
2 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.20
3 Bradley McGee (Aus) Française Des Jeux 0.22
4 Fabian Jeker (Swi) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.11
5 Frank Schleck (Lux) Team CSC 1.27
6 Chris Horner (USA) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.31
7 Aitor Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 1.38
8 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) Phonak Hearing Systems 1.39
9 Koldo Gil Perez (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 1.42
10 Beat Zberg (Swi) Gerolsteiner 1.57

It seems like Horner is real strong right now. Also of interest to me was the commentary re: T-mobile during the live feeds: "Speaking of T-Mobile, Erik Zabel isn't in their official list for the Tour de France. It looks like it'll be all for Jan this year (even though Zabel could be fairly handy in the mountains)." That would be quite interesting if they focused solely on Jan (well, or Vino)

Alembical

[bcm119]

Good for Horner! I recall him saying a while back that he really wanted to make the TdF team...I hope he does.

Hopefully this isn't just a mini-peak brought on by his time off.

[PBWrench]

Zabel is out of the TDF. http://www.velonews.com/race/int/articles/8218.0.html

[Dr. Doofus]

nice to see the second-most talented american of his generation finally win a good stage -- there was a crapload of climbing today.

what could he do in a healthy season with a supportive team?

(doof says horner has more gift than big george...would like to see him have two good years in Europe before he retires)

[jerk]

horner.....hmm.

jerk

[97CSI]

While it is good to see Horner do so well and hope that he can take another 1'12" or two out of the rest in the next few days, it is a tough call to say he is better than GH or Landis or Lepheimer, etc. Been a while since they've competed head-to-head to see. And their roles will be different in the TdF. But, its great to see so many very strong U.S. riders in the peleton in Europe.

[jerk]

to quote the dead kennedies:

DRUG ME!!!


jerk

[Dr. Doofus]

more talented doesn't mean better

better results means better

horner is a super talent (can climb, can sprint, can do a decent tt, sharp tactical mind) who never figured out how to make it work in europe...but it looks like he's starting to do it now...if he has a good year in europe it'll be winning stages in week-long races, maybe one in a grand tour...not a guy for the overall in a pro tour stage race, and too old to learn the ropes to win a major classic...but if you look at the good results he's had (3rd at Plouay with FDJ, a good stage race with them until he crashed out, his worlds rides in hamilton and verona, and lombardy last year), he fits the mold of a sorenson/richard/rooks-if-you-ignore-the-ignorable-88-tour-which-was-kind-of-like-the-98-tour-because-most-of-the-fast-guys-didn't-finish rider...danegrous in the moyenne montagne and hilly one-day races, or smooth-road single day races that are hard to control and don't favor specialists...doof hopes he makes it click for the next two years

(no comment on his "preparation" and those nasty rumors)

[Big Dan]

Me thinking Mauro gave Horner the good stuff..................... :cool:

www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/jun05/suisse05/index.php?id=stage6/6


Sorry..couldn't help it.
I'm just playing a 03 MIM Std Strat w/ Ernie Balls Power Slinkys (11-48) that is bringing a smile to my face...... :D

[Dr. Doofus]

mauro was on the good stuff in '95, for sure (and it kind of helped that ja-ja and bugno watched each other)

they're all on something

and horner's jaw/forehead is a tad different than in '96...but anyway....

he's a talented rider who's learned how to be a bigger rat in the rat race that is the beautiful, seductive, grotesque, and corrupt world of pro cycling

[GoJavs]

Think Big Dan was referring to Mauro's infamous 15-day stay in an ICU at a hospital in Lausanne back in '95. Ah! '95 - I loved those days....

BTW - it is nice to see Horner finally get a chance at a big one.

[jerk]

the jerk deleted his post which was pretty awful. suffice it to say that horner is dirtier than paris hilton on a six pack of zima.

jerk

[coylifut]

the jerk deleted his post which was pretty awful. suffice it to say that horner is dirtier than paris hilton on a six pack of zima.

jerk

any riders out there that you reckon are clean?

[Dr. Doofus]

paris could handle 12

6 won't do

(just guessing...I mean, she's a high school dropout that is moderately attractive and calculated her big break by releasing a home sex video...so yeah, she's dirtier than rick mahorn knocking raimondas rumsas into conrad dobler's elbow while larry flint watches...but you're not getting her action with a sixer unless its carlsberg elephant)

[jerk]

any riders out there that you reckon are clean?


Patrick Heidkamp
David Werling
Adam Hodges Myerson
Roger Farrell
Aaron Brown
Ari DeWilde
John Bailey Hanson
Michael Norton
Cody Powell
Jason Williams
Oscar Pineda


justin spinelli
danny pate
jeremy powers

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . ANY of ‘em, except Pate. None of them musta won SH*T.

Oh. I see your point. d’OH! :rolleyes:

BBDave

[columbusslx]

Hey Jerk...what proof do you have on Horner besides "he is dirtier than..."? It is not like he all of the sudden has gone from a donkey to a racehorse.

[e-RICHIE]

. . . ANY of ‘em, except Pate. None of them musta won SH*T.

Oh. I see your point. d’OH! :rolleyes:

BBDave


bbd-issimo...
you gotta get out more!
there're a couple of past national champions on
that list and at least four (by my count) are past
us world's team members.

[Andreu]

but none of them have won the tour de Francia.

[Dr. Doofus]

there is a spectacular missing of the point going on here

dont know the jerk's names?

its team nerac.com -- the new england pro squad the jerk ds'd for, and gets some nice bikes from international. myerson is a stud. anyone who says "but he doesn't race in europe" should have the pleasure of seeing him drop you and your 5000.00 toy like a dry turd (but your doof is just getting pissy).

pate you know. could have gone fo rthe big time if he had sold his soul. he didn't. anyone who disses him for ridning for the candy team should have to clean his chain with their teeth for an entire season.

spinellli. don't diss spinelli. yeah, it was on cyclingnews.com a few years ago that there may or may not have been a family connection involved with the saeco thing. wake up, moron. nobody "got" him a ride with Farm Frites or Mercury or Navigators. the food says if spinelli gave a sheeyat about it, he could race clean in the us, win a crapload of races, and all of a sudden he'd be a "good rider" in the eyes of the morons...but that's not his choice...and as E-RITCHIE says below, he has nada to prove to anyone in the US (the power of the edit feature).

and don't mess with the doof. as soon as he's finished paying cpg more than he paid for the silly giordana frame to make it go from decent to good, doof and his soon-to-be red no-name bike will ride you off his wheel...not because he is fast, but because he is allergic to yeast and his intestinal tract doesn't really handle a lot of sugar or refined carbs very well, so before you and your mouth ride with the fodo he'll eat a loaf of bread and a jar of jam every day, followed by six pastries and a couple of beers (beer really messes with the doof innards), gain ten pounds, and fumigate everything behind him for miles as we do our little challenge ride and you'll drop off cryin for your momma and a gas mask.

so there

[e-RICHIE]

the food says if spinelli gave a sheeyat about it, he could race clean in the us, win a crapload of races, and all of a sudden he'd be a "good rider".....



1) who is the "food"?
2) spinelli is a great rider. he has chosen to have a life in
addition to racing. he has nothing to prove.

hey - thanks for reading.

[Tom]

there is a spectacular missing of the point going on here



That's one reason I like checking out bikereg.com and the race results. (The other is I like keeping track of the neice and nephew. Except the nephew's working in Alaska this month so he ain't racing a lot lately- unless you count challenge matches with grizzlies.) It's interesting to keep track of who's who locally and so on.

Maybe I ought to watch the grizzly comments. I don't want to hear he lost one of those matches. By the time he was five years old he'd been charged once already.

Speaking of Denali, sometime let me tell you about Bjorn Dahle and his role in The Tale of the Naked Norwegian....

[Dr. Doofus]

1) who is the "food"?

doof, fodo, dofo, food yerdoof, foodrey, yodofour...they're all the same guy

2) spinelli is a great rider. he has chosen to have a life in
addition to racing. he has nothing to prove.

you know better than dofo, and that's exactly what food was trying to say by "if [he] gave a sheeyat about it"...guy has other priorities and nothing to prove.

hey - thanks for reading.

(does the dog have a hat to go with that sweater?)

[jeffg]

there is a spectacular missing of the point going on here


Indeed there is. For most fans, the implication that none of the "big names" are clean is very serious, and very troubling. Not to take anything away from these riders jerk mentioned, but they, for personal reasons or whatever, do not race the in Europe, which is where all the biggest races are. Yeah, the MLS players in the U.S. are way better than most everyone in the world at soccer/football, but if they were the only clean athletes and every in the English Premiership, La Liga, Serie A, etc. were dopers (hey, what was that about Juventus' doctors, and that cycling connection), it would be sad, wouldn't it? ;)

As for your offer to fart in my general direction, I say Ni to you ...

[coylifut]

Christophs Dr. says our local masters scene is polluted. Say it ain't so.

[Climb01742]

yo, doc doof, why so cranky this morning? that was some pile of bile, though written with style, i've seen in quite awhile.

ps: adam myerson also has quite a nice coaching gig going too.

[bcm119]

Cyclingnews said this morning that Horner did indeed make the TdF roster for Saunier Duval.

[William]

Cyclingnews said this morning that Horner did indeed make the TdF roster for Saunier Duval.

He's goin to the "show". :cool:

William

(Arm warmers....HA! :p )