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avalonracing
05-17-2011, 04:05 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-MPH-High-speed-bicycle-Patent-sale-licensing-/250820870136?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3a6616bff8#ht_982wt_1141

Steve in SLO
05-17-2011, 04:10 PM
I believe that any bicycle dropped from a plane will reach over 100mph. No patent required.
There, I saved us all $10M.

rice rocket
05-17-2011, 04:11 PM
Haha, the patent filing pics are pretty humorous.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=nj13AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&img=1&zoom=4&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U0bdbrOwqV4u_vmenhkcGBQYITV2w&ci=146%2C696%2C675%2C515&edge=0

fiamme red
05-17-2011, 04:15 PM
I've just skimmed the patent, but it doesn't make sense. So what if the top gear is enormous, how can the average rider, or any rider, make use of it? If I can't reach 40 mph on the flat in a 130-inch gear, can I do it in a 300-inch gear?

MattTuck
05-17-2011, 04:17 PM
Oh man! I remember seeing this when I was in the "intellectual property" business and would search for bicycle patents to clear my head.

in fact, I think I remember posting this one on the cycling tech talk forum when I used to hang out there.


Those gears might actually work if it wasn't for that pesky wind resistance thing.

fiamme red
05-17-2011, 04:20 PM
Can this be converted to a fixie? :p

Louis
05-17-2011, 04:38 PM
Those gears might actually work if it wasn't for that pesky wind resistance thing.

Not a problem. The mechanical advantage of the extra gears is so great that you don't even need to worry about drag.

The flat bars are proof of that.

avalonracing
05-17-2011, 05:12 PM
Not a problem. The mechanical advantage of the extra gears is so great that you don't even need to worry about drag.

The flat bars are proof of that.

Kinda like a Harley, but faster.

rice rocket
05-17-2011, 06:21 PM
He left a phone number, I might call and ask a few questions.

jmoore
05-17-2011, 06:32 PM
So the standard crank is mounted on the drive side and the additional crank is mounted on the seatstay on the opposite side of the bike, routing the chain through the rear triangle.

Nice.

Haha, the patent filing pics are pretty humorous.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=nj13AAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&img=1&zoom=4&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U0bdbrOwqV4u_vmenhkcGBQYITV2w&ci=146%2C696%2C675%2C515&edge=0

oldfatslow
05-17-2011, 06:36 PM
The last race I did I went so fast I actually went back in time.

endosch2
05-17-2011, 06:40 PM
I think that as long as the frame was lugged steel and the parts were the right vintage of retro silver in color campy this would work fine. As long as there was no carbon fiber, and purchase from the sale of this bicycle would support a garage builder this would be an excellent design.

chuckroast
05-17-2011, 06:51 PM
Hate to be that guy but he incorrectly spelled "Summary" and "axle" in his sale description.

But, at 100MPH, I'd be willing to overlook such errors...

Nil Else
05-17-2011, 06:54 PM
This will bring new meaning to road rash.


BTW I have an incredible bicycle patent idea of my own but I'm not tellin. :p

hairylegs
05-17-2011, 06:54 PM
This is AMAZING!!!! Can you imagine falling off the seat on a climb when you're in the small ring and the big one is exposed? Ouch! Not to mention you'd be going 100 MPH!!!!!! LOL

avalonracing
05-17-2011, 07:02 PM
He wants $10,000,000 or "make an offer". So, anyone care to make him an offer?

dvs cycles
05-17-2011, 07:16 PM
He wants $10,000,000 or "make an offer". So, anyone care to make him an offer?
How about offering to recommend some books on wind resistance to him.

avalonracing
05-17-2011, 08:00 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, he bought that patent from the forum classifieds for $5,000,000 just last month.

vqdriver
05-17-2011, 08:28 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, he bought that patent from the forum classifieds for $5,000,000 just last month.

yeah, and now he's flipping it for a profit. i bet he wants a paypal gift payment as well. what a jerk. tho i'm not sure how he's going to skirt the ebay fees.

Bob Loblaw
05-17-2011, 09:32 PM
The travel of the bottom rear derailer is impacted by the chainstay. This sucker will never see the high side of 80 mph.

BL

FlashUNC
05-17-2011, 09:44 PM
Stupid Campy. Don't they already know Shimano's electronic shifting will break the sound barrier?

And I hear SRAM has warp drive in development.

rice rocket
05-17-2011, 10:07 PM
The travel of the bottom rear derailer is impacted by the chainstay. This sucker will never see the high side of 80 mph.

BL

That's the least of the concerns. How about the 2nd FD that's suspended in midair?

Louis
05-17-2011, 10:57 PM
PM sent.

And they laughed at the Wright bothers too.

You'll be sorry that you didn't get in on the ground floor on this one.

I'll let you know in a few months when the IPO happens.

jpw
05-18-2011, 04:53 AM
Has there ever been a frame design with a Rohloff-type gearing system in the bb and a split seat tube and down tube for a centered chain and cog?

velomateo
05-18-2011, 11:19 AM
Major chain-suck potential.

ultraman6970
05-18-2011, 01:31 PM
Nutz

norcalbiker
05-18-2011, 01:49 PM
for $10m he has gmail account. :crap:

Volant
05-18-2011, 01:49 PM
Unfortunately, the patent appears worthless as there is prior art in the public domain. Besides that, the real work and money is in making an idea a successful reality - not the patent - which usually turn out to be worthless - unless it has value as a wall-decoration.

Here's John Howards bike (pic taken July 20, 1985):
John Howard's Land Speed Record bike by Skip Hijsak, with step-gear double chainrings. Not exactly as the patent, but close enough that the examiner, or someone who wants to falsify the patent, can make claim to "someone engaged in the art would see the obvious adaptation" - boy, I've been killed by, or had to work around that one, more times than I care to remember!!

BTW, John hit 152 mph on that rig! (drafting of course - the patent holder's claim of 100 mph is far fetched for an "average rider" (as claimed) without something to block the wind)

Louis
05-18-2011, 01:57 PM
Unfortunately, the patent appears worthless as there is prior art in the public domain.
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Not exactly as the patent, but close enough that the examiner can make claim to "someone engaged in the art would see the obvious adaptation" - boy, I've been killed by, or had to work around that one, more times than I care to remember!!

There's very little new under the sun. Old guys weren't as stupid / backward as we'd like to think they were.

fiamme red
05-18-2011, 02:07 PM
Here's John Howards bike (pic taken July 20, 1985):
John Howard's Land Speed Record bike by Skip Hijsak, with step-gear double chainrings. Not exactly as the patent, but close enough that the examiner, or someone who wants to falsify the patent, can make claim to "someone engaged in the art would see the obvious adaptation" - boy, I've been killed by, or had to work around that one, more times than I care to remember!!There's a difference: John Howard's land speed bike was a fixed-gear. He had to be towed up to speed. This one you can start off in your 70" gear, and gradually increase your speed until you're in the 350" gear. :)

Bob Ross
05-18-2011, 04:30 PM
This one you can start off in your 70" gear, and gradually increase your speed until you're in the 350" gear.


...or, if you're like most club riders around here, jump to it ~3 seconds after the traffic light turns green.

Volant
05-18-2011, 05:18 PM
There's a difference: John Howard's land speed bike was a fixed-gear. He had to be towed up to speed. This one you can start off in your 70" gear, and gradually increase your speed until you're in the 350" gear. :)

Again, obvious to someone engaged in the art.

fogrider
05-19-2011, 11:14 PM
$10mil and just $200 in ebay bucks! :confused: