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old_fat_and_slow
02-18-2011, 02:40 PM
Does anyone know who the first framemaker was that introduced theses semi-cylindrical doo-hickey's at the rear dropouts?

These thingies:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=78747&stc=1

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=78749&stc=1

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=76292&stc=1

(No, not the fender tabs.)

What purpose does it serve? Stiffens the rear dropouts against rotation out-of-the-plane of the rear triangles?

Just wonderin'



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fiamme red
02-18-2011, 03:01 PM
Does anyone know who the first framemaker was that introduced theses semi-cylindrical doo-hickey's at the rear dropouts?The Wright Brothers, they say.

Lifelover
02-18-2011, 03:03 PM
I assume they simple provide a surface to attach the stays too.

fiamme red
02-18-2011, 03:14 PM
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=79294

old_fat_and_slow
02-18-2011, 03:16 PM
Well that settles that ! Thanks Fiamme

old_fat_and_slow
02-18-2011, 03:17 PM
The Wright Brothers, they say.


Well I think "they" be wrong. :D

I don't see no semi-cylindrical doo-hickies. (Hey where's the chainstays at?)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/BicyclePlymouth.jpg

troymac
02-18-2011, 03:26 PM
Well I think "they" be wrong. :D

I don't see no semi-cylindrical doo-hickies. (Hey where's the chainstays at?)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3b/BicyclePlymouth.jpg
Is that Fixeds's bike looks like a cool ride. :hello:

Mikej
02-18-2011, 03:33 PM
Usually called a Breezer style drop out, after Joe breeze, who may or may not have invented them.

fiamme red
02-18-2011, 03:37 PM
Usually called a Breezer style drop out, after Joe breeze, who may or may not have invented them.He didn't invent them, but popularized them.

Steve in SLO
02-18-2011, 05:58 PM
They are the single biggest reason it takes me 3x as long to seat my rear QR than it used to.

Louis
02-18-2011, 06:17 PM
Not that anybody asked for my opinion, but aesthetically they are not at the top of my list of desirable dropout designs.

old_fat_and_slow
02-18-2011, 06:45 PM
Not that anybody asked for my opinion, but aesthetically they are not at the top of my list of desirable dropout designs.


I concur with you Sir 1000%

rwsaunders
02-18-2011, 08:39 PM
I'm wondering if they were installed because it's a travel bike? I.e. they are able to be replaced if the hanger is bent during shipping or during a ride in Timbuktu? Rugby...chime in here.

Fixed
02-18-2011, 09:01 PM
did he used to work at serotta ?
cheers

Peter P.
02-18-2011, 09:34 PM
The design makes it easier to attach chain and seat stays to the dropout as the continuous flange isn't fussy about placement, there's a large surface area for strength, and mitering is quick and easy.

Some brands have less of a hood over the dropouts which might ease some of the problems others have experienced. A good builder might remove any excess flange during construction.

My concern, as others have voiced, is will it fit a stationary trainer?

dsb
02-19-2011, 08:11 AM
My concern, as others have voiced, is will it fit a stationary trainer?

That's what's on my Peg Marcelo and I ride it on the trainer all the time...
I'm using a 1up if that matters...