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maxdog
11-02-2010, 01:55 PM
i'm doing my first campy build in years for my new rs frame set. i picked up the record 11 gruppo. i've been riding dura-ace for years now, for no good reason other than that's what has predominated the u.s. market and was either on the bikes i bought or was the easiest to get a good deal on. i decided this bike, built by a person i consider to be one of the greatest builders in the business, deserved a drive train from what i had always considered to be the preeminent component company. in fact i am having second thoughts about not having gone for super record. in either case i realize i will not be able to use my park 10 speed chain tool. ridiculously enough the campy tool lists for $300, and although i know you can get it for between $200 and $250, i refuse to pay that much for a chain tool you use once or twice a year. i think you could stamp campy on a turd and sell it. i see that park sells an 11 speed tool and a separate peening tool for about $50 each. i was hoping some of you with experience with 11 speed could give me some advice. thanks.

bike22
11-02-2010, 01:59 PM
this thread may be of help: http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=79198

oldpotatoe
11-02-2010, 02:02 PM
i'm doing my first campy build in years for my new rs frame set. i picked up the record 11 gruppo. i've been riding dura-ace for years now, for no good reason other than that's what has predominated the u.s. market and was either on the bikes i bought or was the easiest to get a good deal on. i decided this bike, built by a person i consider to be one of the greatest builders in the business, deserved a drive train from what i had always considered to be the preeminent component company. in fact i am having second thoughts about not having gone for super record. in either case i realize i will not be able to use my park 10 speed chain tool. ridiculously enough the campy tool lists for $300, and although i know you can get it for between $200 and $250, i refuse to pay that much for a chain tool you use once or twice a year. i think you could stamp campy on a turd and sell it. i see that park sells an 11 speed tool and a separate peening tool for about $50 each. i was hoping some of you with experience with 11 speed could give me some advice. thanks.

http://www.pedros.com/tutto.htm

leooooo
11-02-2010, 02:12 PM
Park tool is fine. Personally own and used one many times (ok, 3 times) on my bikes.

maxdog
11-02-2010, 08:01 PM
has anyone tried the pedros tool?

AngryScientist
11-02-2010, 09:00 PM
you can use any chain tool to brake the chain, peening is what you need the specific tool for, so you only need the one park tool if you already have a 10-sp chain tool, or the pedros tool.

KMC also now makes an 11-sp chain with a quick link - no chain peener needed.

maxdog
11-02-2010, 09:05 PM
you can use any chain tool to brake the chain, peening is what you need the specific tool for, so you only need the one park tool if you already have a 10-sp chain tool, or the pedros tool.

KMC also now makes an 11-sp chain with a quick link - no chain peener needed.

are you sure a ten speed chain tool will properly hold the chain and prevent it from being damaged?

cinema
11-02-2010, 09:07 PM
http://www.lezyne.com/catalog/product/view/id/593/s/11-speed-chain-drive/category/48/

maxdog
11-02-2010, 09:15 PM
i love my lezyne floor pump and would recommend it highly. unfortunately the chain tool looks more like an emergency road kit tool or i would be very interested. thanks.

AngryScientist
11-02-2010, 11:05 PM
are you sure a ten speed chain tool will properly hold the chain and prevent it from being damaged?

i've used it without incident

aoe
11-03-2010, 12:24 AM
You can try this. I've got it on one of my record 11 groups and working fine.

http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='0340-20'

oldpotatoe
11-03-2010, 08:58 AM
You can try this. I've got it on one of my record 11 groups and working fine.

http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB='0340-20'

Sold 3 of these and they all clicked..get the IRD link, better link, no noise and cheaper.

Dave
11-03-2010, 09:11 AM
Which IRD link are you using? The IRD website only lists 10 speed. A link made to fit a Shimano chain would have very sloppy fit with about 3 times the normal side clearance. A link made to fit a current Campy 10 chain would be a tighter fit, since the chain is narrower across the inner plates.

http://www.interlocracing.com/chains.html

oldpotatoe
11-03-2010, 09:15 AM
Which IRD link are you using? The IRD website only lists 10 speed. A link made to fit a Shimano chain would have very sloppy fit with about 3 times the normal side clearance. A link made to fit a current Campy 10 chain would be a tighter fit, since the chain is narrower across the inner plates.

http://www.interlocracing.com/chains.html

No Dave, it's a 11s chain link. Got it from Merry Sales in bay area. 8 Bucks.