Touring wheel build

[Dekonick]

OK - now my frame is built and I have all the bits to build her up but am using Proton's for wheels... for now.

My plan is to have a 32 3 cross with 14/15 spokes, DT 240 hubs and ???? what rim???

CXP33's?

I plan on using 32mm tires... clinchers.

What would you use for rims?

[cp43]

Is it a fully loaded touring wheel, or a light touring wheel? For fully loaded I'd go with 36h Mavic A719. For light touring, CXP33s will probably work, but I don't have any experience with them. I've also had good luck with Velocity rims, I think the Dyad is their heavy duty rim, I don't know which is the medium duty one.



Chris

[Bradford]

I'd do what Peter White would do (and I'd buy them from Peter). Phil is the way to go, but the White industries would be tempting.

Scroll down about half way to get to touring wheels.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/wheels.asp

Training, Light Touring and Randoneuring, 130mm rear (price per set)
Shimano Dura Ace hubs, Wheelsmith 14-16 butted spokes,
Mavic Open Sport silver rims, 32 hole front, 36 hole rear:
$ 512.30
Shimano Ultegra hubs, Wheelsmith 14-16 butted spokes,
Mavic Open Sport silver rims, 32 hole front, 36 hole rear:
$ 352.30
Light Touring and Randoneuring, 135mm rear axle length (price per set)
Shimano XTR M950 hubs, Mavic Open Sport silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 32 spokes front and rear:
$ 456.58
Shimano XTR M950 hubs, Mavic Open Sport silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes front and rear:
$ 463.54

Loaded Touring, 135mm rear, 700c
(price per set)
Most modern touring bikes have 135mm between the rear dropouts. This is the same as for most modern mountain bikes. So most touring bikes use hubs that fit most mountain bikes. We stock several hubs suitable for loaded touring. The Phil Wood and White Industries hubs have cartridge sealed bearings, which hardly ever need service. And if they do need service, they can easily be replaced. Phil Wood makes the toughest rear hub. If you weigh 300lbs and will be carrying another 75lbs of gear, I recommend the Phil Wood. If your needs aren't quite so severe, but you still want a hub that will last a lifetime with minimal service, get the White Industries. The Shimano XTR is another hub that will probably last a lifetime. Just keep the grease in the bearings clean and the bearings well adjusted. Bearing adjustment is probably the most critical issue with a Shimano hub. With the cartridge bearings in the Phil Wood and White Industries, a damaged bearing is an annoyance, until you replace it. But the Shimano hubs can permanently damaged by improper bearing adjustment. If kept clean and well adjusted, Shimano hubs like the XTR will outlast just about any rider.

Phil Wood hub for 8 or 9 speed Shimano cassette, Mavic A719 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith butted spokes, 36 spokes: Add $10 for black rims
$ 871.50
Phil Wood hub for 8 or 9 speed Shimano cassette, Mavic A719 black rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith butted spokes, 40 spokes:
$ 899.90
White Industries Racer X 36 spoke hubs, Velocity Dyad rims, Wheelsmith DB-14 spokes, 36 spokes front & rear:
$ 671.60
White Industries Racer X 40 spoke hubs, Velocity Dyad rims, Wheelsmith DB-14 spokes, 40 spokes front & rear:
$ 690.00
Shimano XTR M950 hubs, Mavic A719 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes: Add $10 for black rims
$ 592.50
Shimano XT M760 hubs, Mavic A719 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes
$ 404.49
Shimano LX M580 hubs, Mavic A719 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes
$ 385.48
Many other rims available. Call 603 478 0900 for a quote.

Loaded Touring, 135mm rear, 26" 559mm
(price per set)
Shimano XTR M950 hubs, Mavic D521 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes front and rear:
$ 443.90
Shimano XTR M950 hubs, Mavic F519 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes front and rear:
$ 443.90
Phil Wood hub for 8 or 9 speed Shimano cassette, Mavic D521 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith butted spokes, 36 spokes:
$ 871.50
Phil Wood hub for 8 or 9 speed Shimano cassette, Mavic F519 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith butted spokes, 36 spokes:
$ 871.50
Shimano XT hubs, Mavic D521 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes
$ 397.50
Shimano XT hubs, Mavic F519 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes
$ 397.50
Shimano LX hubs, Mavic D521 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes
$ 356.50
Shimano LX hubs, Mavic F519 silver rims, 14-16 Wheelsmith spokes, 36 spokes

[bike22]

mountain hubs, mavic a719.

cxp33s and dt240s are not sufficient for fully loaded touring.

if your frame is road spaced, 105 hubs to a719.

[LiteFM]

I have a beautiful set of 36H Velocity Dyad to XT and love them. I believe the medium duty rim would be the Arrowhead?

[Dekonick]

Let me add it is a Campy 10 drivetrain... hence DT 240's and not phil...

LIGHT touring frame. It can be decked out but I plan on using it as a day tourer - a nice lunch, etc... but not 80 lbs of gear...

[Frankwurst]

Day touring CXP's will be fine. They are pretty much bullet proof. :beer:

[thwart]

Those Protons may serve you well for a day tourer, in spite of the low-life you bought them from... :D

[BengeBoy]

Just fyi, I was planning Mavic A719's for my touring wheels but the builder recommended Mavic A319's because they're black and don't show as much grime (it's my commuter bike, too).

A little cheaper, just as rugged. 3,000+ miles, mostly commuting, a little touring, no problems.

[rugbysecondrow]

Call ergott, very knowledgable and honest. He will level with you about whether you need new wheels or not. He quoted me a price for custom wheels, but after I described what I had he said my current set would be just fine.

[cp43]

Just fyi, I was planning Mavic A719's for my touring wheels but the builder recommended Mavic A319's because they're black and don't show as much grime (it's my commuter bike, too).

A little cheaper, just as rugged. 3,000+ miles, mostly commuting, a little touring, no problems.

I think you can get both the 719s and the 319s in black or silver.

I agree tho, the 319s would work just as well. My commuter came with 319s, not a bit of trouble with them, tho I did finally wear through the rear braking surface.

Either way, it seems like they'd be overkill in this case.

Chris

[oldpotatoe]

OK - now my frame is built and I have all the bits to build her up but am using Proton's for wheels... for now.

My plan is to have a 32 3 cross with 14/15 spokes, DT 240 hubs and ???? what rim???

CXP33's?

I plan on using 32mm tires... clinchers.

What would you use for rims?

Loaded touring? 36 hole spokes at a minimum even if the load is light. I see Campagnolo 10s. Velocity hubs, 36 hole.

Rims-Mavic A719, DT TK 540, Velocity Dyad.

If you are credit card touring, with support, 36 still, at least in the rear. Why the 'problem' with 4 spokes? I see it here all the time. Much stronger wheel.

[AngryScientist]

Call ergott, very knowledgable and honest. He will level with you about whether you need new wheels or not. He quoted me a price for custom wheels, but after I described what I had he said my current set would be just fine.

+1

[Ralph]

Loaded touring? 36 hole spokes at a minimum even if the load is light. I see Campagnolo 10s. Velocity hubs, 36 hole.

Rims-Mavic A719, DT TK 540, Velocity Dyad.

If you are credit card touring, with support, 36 still, at least in the rear. Why the 'problem' with 4 spokes? I see it here all the time. Much stronger wheel.

That's what I would do also. And I weigh 160. Obviously you aren't building a race wheel. So why not put some spokes in it. If you break one of 36 in rear, it's not so bad. For 32 and 36 hole wheels, I'm still a Campy hub fan. And they are relatively inexpensive. Easy to service, anywhere.

[ergott]

The best hubs are Alchemy hubs. On the podium are Campagnolo Record and White Industries hubs. If you want 36 spokes, Record hubs are out.

Rims:
Stan's notubes 29er rims
HED C4
Velocity A23, Dyad or Synergy
DT TK 540

Spokes:
DT Competitions
Sapim Race (stay away from their black spokes)
Wheelsmith DB 14

I personally know around a few pairs of Stan's rims and I can't hurt them. I've ridden flats for miles at a time, bottomed out on roots and rocks, and call them bad names, but they keep coming back for more. 32 only, but if done right, they can definitely handle light touring weights.

http://ergottwheels.smugmug.com/Sports/The-bikes/0504100614/856636201_p3B79-O.jpg

[ergott]

The best hubs are Alchemy hubs. On the podium are Campagnolo Record and White Industries hubs. If you want 36 spokes, Record hubs are out.

Rims:
Stan's notubes 29er rims
HED C4
Velocity A23, Dyad or Synergy
DT TK 540

Spokes:
DT Competitions
Sapim Race (stay away from their black spokes)
Wheelsmith DB 14

I personally knock around a few pairs of Stan's rims and I can't hurt them. I've ridden flats for miles at a time, bottomed out on roots and rocks, and call them bad names, but they keep coming back for more. 32 only, but if done right, they can definitely handle light touring weights.

http://ergottwheels.smugmug.com/Sports/The-bikes/0504100614/856636201_p3B79-O.jpg