Campy cassette query

[akelman]

I really need a 13-29 10-speed cassette for an upcoming ride that's likely as not going to kill me. (Who will inherit my bikes after I'm gone? I haven't yet decided, so you should be very nice to me.) And because I find the prospect of sorting out which model to buy pretty daunting, I'd be very grateful if someone here would just tell me what to do. I'm reasonably confident that I have no interest in a Record cassette, as they're too expensive for only occasional use. Given that, I'd probably buy a Chorus if I could find one, but I can't. So what to do? Help, please.

[buldogge]

Just buy a Centaur.

$45 + $8 shipping from Ribble (maybe even a little less, I'm padding for the exchange rate fluctuation).

I just run Veloce or Centaur generally...FWIW.

-Mark in St. Louis

[firerescuefin]

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=13-29+cassette&_sacat=See-All-Categories


Lots of choices to include Centaur and Chorus and Veloce.

[akelman]

I did the same search and didn't/don't see a Chorus. Thanks, though.

[firerescuefin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Campagnolo-Chorus-10-Speed-Ultra-Drive-Cassette-13-29-/320586823393?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa476b6e1

[akelman]

And I'm an idiot. Thanks again.

[oliver1850]

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[sjbraun]

Are you riding the Moab Century Tour?

It is the one ride on which I use a 13-29.

Steve

[akelman]

I talked to junkfood, but his cassette has some issues (minor rust). And no, I'm not riding Moab; I'm riding Levi's Gran Fondo. And I'm old and don't have a triple on either of my bikes. So, a 13-29 seems like the right way to go.

[sjbraun]

Old?? I'm 55. Is that old???

You'll be glad you have the 13-29, unless you're worried about bombing down hills. I spin out at about 36mph, but that's okay with me on an organized ride.

[steveo]

Is a long cage rear der. required for a 13-29 Campy cassette?

[R2D2]

Is a long cage rear der. required for a 13-29 Campy cassette?

For Ten Speed double a mid-cage is required for 13-29. If triple a long cage is required.

[AngryScientist]

just like to chime in that i'm running a veloce 10-sp cassette on one of my bikes. i guess it may be heavier, but shifting performance is as good as the chorus cassette on my other bike...

[Ralph]

I like Veloce and Centaur, and Total Cycling (UK) has new Chorus 13-29's for less than EBay. With the UK suppliers, it helps to make up a decent sized order of things you will need over time so shipping is more reasonable. Cables, cassettes, tires, chains, etc.

[oldpotatoe]

I really need a 13-29 10-speed cassette for an upcoming ride that's likely as not going to kill me. (Who will inherit my bikes after I'm gone? I haven't yet decided, so you should be very nice to me.) And because I find the prospect of sorting out which model to buy pretty daunting, I'd be very grateful if someone here would just tell me what to do. I'm reasonably confident that I have no interest in a Record cassette, as they're too expensive for only occasional use. Given that, I'd probably buy a Chorus if I could find one, but I can't. So what to do? Help, please.

Veloce or Centaur, least expensive compatible cogset and chain as these are consumables. Big extra $ for a few grams saving(Chorus) doesn't make sense to me. Same performance and longevity as Chorus.

[oldpotatoe]

Is a long cage rear der. required for a 13-29 Campy cassette?

NO If the chain is measured properly a short cage RD is fine. I have had a 13-29 on one of my demo bikes first with a full sized crank(53/39) and then a compact, worked just fine with a short cage RD.

[oldpotatoe]

For Ten Speed double a mid-cage is required for 13-29. If triple a long cage is required.

Sorry, not really true. See my other post, not 'required'.

[malcolm]

I've used a 13-29 with a short cage many times, just make sure the chain is the right length and avoid the big-big, which you probably do anyway although properly set up the big-big will prob be ok.

If I buy campy stuff new I usually get the med cage and honestly it works every bit as good as the short.

[R2D2]

Sorry, not really true. See my other post, not 'required'.
Campagnolo's instructions. Not mine.
It will work on some bikes if they have a long hanger.
It did not on mine.
11-speed has been designed to handle 13-29 no problem.
So I guess OP should try first before a purchase.

I've had 0 issues with mid-cage FWIW.

[malcolm]

Campagnolo's instructions. Not mine.
It will work on some bikes if they have a long hanger.
It did not on mine.
11-speed has been designed to handle 13-29 no problem.
So I guess OP should try first before a purchase.

I've had 0 issues with mid-cage FWIW.


I think the point is it will work on most bikes, but it probably isn't optimum. The most you'll have to do is avoid the big chain ring and the biggest one or possibly two in the back, which really there isn't any good reason to use anyway.

I agree the medium cage campy rear works every bit as good as the short, in my opinion and would be the better choice, but if you only need the 13-29 once in a blue moon and already have a short it will work you just have to test it in advance and avoid the big-big combo if it is an issue.

[akelman]

I've got a long-cage derailleur on there, as it happens, since we're talking about my cross bike. And the Record long-cage derailleur, in my experience, is somewhat sloppier than the Chorus short-cage on my other bike. Regardless, running a 13-29 isn't going to be a problem with my setup. Again, thanks for the feedback.

[DonH]

Is a long cage rear der. required for a 13-29 Campy cassette?

Medium cage worked well with my 13-29.

[R2D2]

I think the point is it will work on most bikes, but it probably isn't optimum. The most you'll have to do is avoid the big chain ring and the biggest one or possibly two in the back, which really there isn't any good reason to use anyway.

I agree the medium cage campy rear works every bit as good as the short, in my opinion and would be the better choice, but if you only need the 13-29 once in a blue moon and already have a short it will work you just have to test it in advance and avoid the big-big combo if it is an issue.

That's one way do do it. And you need to adjust the B-screw if everything is really close.
I just like using the manufactures instructions.
But no big deal.
Peace.

[malcolm]

That's one way do do it. And you need to adjust the B-screw if everything is really close.
I just like using the manufactures instructions.
But no big deal.
Peace.

No prob. I was agreeing with you. I was just pointing out that if need be it can be done, but probably not best choice.

[Ralph]

I ride two bikes with 39X52 front. One a CAAD 5 Cannondale and one a custom steel with a slightly longer hanger. A 13-29 with my 39X52 does not work well on the CAAD 5 and short cage. It will wrap the big to big, but pulley wheels rub on two biggest cogs while in 39.

On the custom steel bike (A Jonathan Greene), the 13-29 and 39X52 work perfect any any combination. So it depends. LIke above said, if in doubt, just run a Med cage. If running a 34-50, would certainly need a med cage on the CAAD 5, but could run a 34-50 and a 13-26 with short cage.

[Pete Serotta]

NO If the chain is measured properly a short cage RD is fine. I have had a 13-29 on one of my demo bikes first with a full sized crank(53/39) and then a compact, worked just fine with a short cage RD.


No problem at all. On 10 speed campy this has been going on for over 5 years a few times a year. :banana: :banana:


PETE

[Ralph]

And....if the big to big doesn't have to work, and/or you don't mind the chain being a little slack in small to small conmbinations, you can make about anything work OK. Shucks....I've run a short cage with a 13-29 and a 30-40-50 triple before....when it was for one ride and I didn't want to change any more than I had to change.

[Elefantino]

People need to buy more Record and Chorus stuff so the price on Veloce will go down. Not that it's very high, anyway. But if'n you're not racing and you don't have to have the best just because it's the best, I can't see buying any combo above Centaur level.

I run a 13-29 on both a mid-cage Centaur (Concours) and short-cage Record (LaCorsa). No issues, except avoiding big-big on the Record.

[oldpotatoe]

Campagnolo's instructions. Not mine.
It will work on some bikes if they have a long hanger.
It did not on mine.
11-speed has been designed to handle 13-29 no problem.
So I guess OP should try first before a purchase.

I've had 0 issues with mid-cage FWIW.

11s is 12-29, just for info. If somebody doesn't have a RD and has a choice, sure the medium is ideal, even works fine with the 'smaller' cogsets from Campagnolo. I have installed a bunch of 13-29s on lotsa bikes with short cage RDers, haven't had an issue yet. Don't think a 'long' hanger is required, just not a real short hanger altho most seem pretty standard.

[wasfast]

People need to buy more Record and Chorus stuff so the price on Veloce will go down. Not that it's very high, anyway. But if'n you're not racing and you don't have to have the best just because it's the best, I can't see buying any combo above Centaur level.

I do race and still won't pay for 10spd Record/Chorus. If you ride a fair amount, you'll go through at least a cassette per year, sometimes 2 for me. Veloce works fine, costs 1/4 the price and will last longer w/o the ti cogs. ditto on chains. Since 11 spd came out, Campy cut the choices in 10 spd considerably for newly ordered cassettes (NOS is certainly still out there).

I own 7 pairs of wheels. The only cassette that's not Veloce is the 11-21 on my disc because 12-23 is the closest available in Veloce. At least I got it used for under $100 or I may have not done that:-)

[Dave]

Record and Chorus 10 cassettes may still be found, but they are no longer made, AFAIK. 10 speed cassettes are all Centaur or Veloce.

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/compare/item_pignoniCE_catid_2_merc_7_compitem_pignoniVEL. jsp

[beungood]

Do the newer Veloce and Centaur still shift 3 gears up or down?

[Dave]

Do the newer Veloce and Centaur still shift 3 gears up or down?

2009-2010 ultrashift levers shift 3 cogs larger with one sweep of the finger lever and up to 5 cogs smaller with one push of the thumb button. Strating with the 2011 models, the shifters Centaur & Veloce 10 and Athena 11 will all use a new internal mechanism that limits the shifts to smaller cogs to only one at a time.