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William
09-06-2010, 12:38 PM
So I was curious as to whether the size of bikes that the Forum membership rides will follow the standard Bell curve....and I had a few minutes spare time on my hands between activities. I thought I would create a poll tat would cover the majority of the size range that folks ride. I realize a few people will fall out side either end of the poll but I only had ten spots to use.

I know many folks have more then one ride, so lets make the you main ride - the one you ride the most. So, please mark the range your main ride falls into. If you feel so inclined, please post your TT length and stem length you are using as well. For the sake of uniformity, all measurements should be center to center.

I'll go first:

ST: 64.5
TT: 62.5
Stem length: 130



Thanks,
William

AndrewS
09-06-2010, 12:46 PM
Not sure what you'll get out of this. C-C sizing is all over the place due to tube diameter differences. And without seat height or body height, the numbers aren't going to tell you much about fit or why that stem for that frame. So, what's it for?

ST 50cm
TT 52.5cm
Stem 110mm

William
09-06-2010, 12:47 PM
Not sure what you'll get out of this. C-C sizing is all over the place due to tube diameter differences. And without seat height or body height, the numbers aren't going to tell you much about fit or why that stem for that frame. So, what's it for?

ST 50cm
TT 52.5cm
Stem 110mm

Just curious where it leads. And, I 'm not a cat so I should be ok. ;)



William

Izalco Expert
09-06-2010, 12:53 PM
Seat tube-50 cm
Top tube-52.5

100 mm stem
:)

dogdriver
09-06-2010, 12:58 PM
56 square, 110 stem

rice rocket
09-06-2010, 01:02 PM
ST: 430mm c-t-c (sloped)
TT: 515mm c-t-c
90mm stem, almost maxing out the 25mm setback on the seatpost)

Frame size, 49cm (which is the c-t-t measurement).

Ken Robb
09-06-2010, 01:14 PM
frames from 59-62CM c-c. Top tubes 58-60cm. A bit taller than most guys my size (6'1) would choose but I like my bars even with or a bit higher than my 79cm saddle height.

DRZRM
09-06-2010, 01:41 PM
58 square
12 cm stem

thegunner
09-06-2010, 01:49 PM
seems us midgets skew the distribution :D

pdmtong
09-06-2010, 01:52 PM
56cm eTT (2) SB=7.5
56.5cm eTT (2) SB=6.3
(all four sloping)

110 stem
44cm bar (ritchey evolution)
drop varies across bikes from 5-8cm
saddle at 75cm

pdmtong
09-06-2010, 01:54 PM
So I was curious as to whether the size of bikes that the Forum membership rides will follow the standard Bell curve....

Fun stuff. I'm also curious about saddle/bar drop.

Tim
09-06-2010, 02:09 PM
top tube 52.5
seat tube 46 (sloping)
stem 12 cm

sw3759
09-06-2010, 02:10 PM
54x55 frame 11cm stem w/7-8cm of drop 73.5 saddle height
i'm 5'8",if we're asking at any point in this discussion

Scott

regularguy412
09-06-2010, 02:17 PM
56 square
120 mm stem -17

Saddle-to-bar drop approx. 7 cm

Mike in AR:beer:

SEABREEZE
09-06-2010, 02:20 PM
54 ST
58 TT

I am 6' 2 and love this geometry

All day comfort

thegunner
09-06-2010, 02:21 PM
Fun stuff. I'm also curious about saddle/bar drop.

i feel this would be a function of flexibility/age... so depending on how you built your scale, there'd be a fair bit of skew towards smaller drop.

jmeloy
09-06-2010, 02:23 PM
55.5TT
56ST
110 stem

T.J.
09-06-2010, 02:39 PM
58st
57.5tt
11cm of drop

sg8357
09-06-2010, 03:16 PM
Two 24in and a 59cm and a 60cm.
stems vary, drop about 4cm.

William
09-06-2010, 03:37 PM
Edit:

ST: 64.5
TT: 62.5
Stem length: 130
Drop: 9cm (13cm on my SS).






William

PS: I didn't consider sloping TT's when I posted this. Just not on my radar. I guess virtual ST's would be appropriate then.

Ken Robb
09-06-2010, 03:45 PM
58st
57.5tt
11cm of drop

Jeez, couldn't you find a bike in your size? :)

dana_e
09-06-2010, 03:46 PM
is that center to center

or center to top

sloping, -6, -8 degrees

or virtual ?

T.J.
09-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Jeez, couldn't you find a bike in your size? :)


Gets the job done for me ;)

Bruce K
09-06-2010, 04:00 PM
53cm ST
54cm TT

Give or take (some bikes have sloping TT's)

BK

rickbb
09-06-2010, 04:45 PM
56.5 to 57 square with a 110 stem.
I'm 5'11" but flexibility is shot.

pdmtong
09-06-2010, 05:21 PM
i feel this would be a function of flexibility/age... so depending on how you built your scale, there'd be a fair bit of skew towards smaller drop.
yes, agreed there is prolly a high correlation with age. not trying to make anyone feel good or feel bad. it is what it is. people need to be set up to be comfy, that's it.

ThomasAylesbury
09-06-2010, 05:26 PM
st 48
TT 52
Stem 100

CSI

Jeff N.
09-06-2010, 05:30 PM
ST: 62.5 C-C
TT: 60
Stem: 120

TimmyB
09-06-2010, 05:35 PM
Well,
my carbon race bike is 55x56 w/ -10° 100mm stem w/ no spacers, setback post. about 8.5-9cm drop
my (comfort) steel race bike is 57x57 with -8° 100mm stem w/ a 1cm spacer, no setback post. about 7-7.5cm drop
my beater/school bike is 56cm square with riserbars. like 10cm RISE :)

I'd say for going fast my frame size is 55x56cm. I've got longer legs and a shorter reach. I'm 6ft. 19yo

roguedog
09-06-2010, 08:45 PM
46-49cm st
50-52cm tt

yes i'm short

rice rocket
09-06-2010, 09:05 PM
Yes, we need more midgets to skew the results! :)

AndrewS
09-06-2010, 10:37 PM
seems us midgets skew the distribution :D
Actually, it's probably the compacts.

Take that into account and what do we get: A distribution in a bell-like curve! Amazing.

alexstar
09-06-2010, 11:06 PM
55 square with a 115 quill stem.

William
09-07-2010, 03:52 AM
Actually, it's probably the compacts.

Take that into account and what do we get: A distribution in a bell-like curve! Amazing.



Hmmm, do I detect a note of sarcasm? :fight:




William ;)

RADaines
09-07-2010, 07:25 AM
ST = 53 cm
TT = 54.7 cm, 5 degress of slope
stem = 100 mm


This is a custom frame so how it compares with standard frame sizing is a question.

jblande
09-07-2010, 07:33 AM
st: 59
tt: 58.5
stem: 120

I believe 9 cm of drop, but I am not sure.

snah
09-07-2010, 07:40 AM
Yes, we need more midgets to skew the results! :)

Not PC, think we're supposed to say short people. :)

57 square myself, 120 stem.

207 cm
09-07-2010, 07:43 AM
61x68 w/140mm stem.

Jack Brunk
09-07-2010, 09:30 AM
55-56cm TT
Doesn't matter on the ST(relative to either straight or sloping)
120-130mm stem minus 10-12 degrees
7cm drop

Lifelover
09-07-2010, 11:17 AM
I can make do on anything between a 56 square and a 60 square.

I only want 1" or less of drop so the smaller frames tend to have VERY ugly spacer stacks.

weiwentg
09-07-2010, 02:06 PM
Compact frame.
56cm TT.
46cm ST, center to top.
76 degree STA.

I'm 5'5" with a very long torso. I need custom to really fit right. I wanted lugs but we couldn't get a level TT design that looked right - it would have to have a riser stem (as in stem above horizontal, would look funky).

tlm993
09-07-2010, 08:04 PM
Cool to see so many on the shorter stature chime in on this thread.

Custom Dean Ti: 44 ST, 53 TT (11cm 84* stem) - "Race Bike"
IF Planet X: 48 ST, 53 TT (11cm 84* stem) - "uh, Cross bike"
Custom IF SSR: 48 ST, 52.5 TT (12cm 73* stem) - "All around"

I'm 5'5". Saddle at 65.3 cm, Saddle drop is about 4 cm on the Dean, less on the other two.

tlm993
09-07-2010, 08:10 PM
Cool to see so many on the shorter stature chime in on this thread.

Custom Dean Ti: 44 ST, 53 TT (11cm 84* stem) - "Race Bike"
IF Planet X: 48 ST, 53 TT (11cm 84* stem) - "uh, Cross bike"
Custom IF SSR: 48 ST, 52.5 TT (12cm 73* stem) - "All around"

I'm 5'5". Saddle at 65.3 cm, Saddle drop is about 4 cm on the Dean, less on the other two.

steampunk
09-07-2010, 08:31 PM
48cm stock HSG IT geometry.

48cm ST, 51.5cm TT, 10cm stem

stackie
09-07-2010, 09:50 PM
65cm ST and 61cm TT, 130mm stem

Just for kicks and grins, I'm 6, 3.5" and 90 cm PBH.

I'd love to know the height and PBH of some of the riders of some of the bigger bikes. William, 207cm, Jeff N???

Jon

slowandsteady
09-07-2010, 10:02 PM
55-56cm TT
Doesn't matter on the ST(relative to either straight or sloping)


Jack's got this nailed. Seat tube length means little these days, it's the (effective) top tube length that helps most to dial in your fit, reach, KOPS etc. (if you use or believe in KOPS)

learlove
09-07-2010, 10:07 PM
-ST 52cm ctc (53.5cm ctt)
-TT 54cm ctc
-Stem 120mm
-Seat height 70cm from center bb to top of seat (along the seattube/seatpost line)
-172.5 crank length
-Level top tube, standover 30.5in or 77.5cm (700X23 tires)
-I'm just shy of 5'9" (5'8and 3/4" to be exact) with a 31.5 inseam
-with todays limited size production (51 to 53cm or 52 to 54cm or Sm to Md) i almost find myself falling right between the sizes for a "perfect fit". For example, Cannondale, A 52cm is slightly small and the 54cm is slightly big, both can be fit fine but not a perfect as if they made a 53. Same for most other brands.

victoryfactory
09-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Looks like a pretty normal bell curve to me, with a
fairly standard distribution if you adjust for error
(and weird fittings)

VF