Since we're talking about wheels and stuff

[false_Aest]

Do alu. tubular rims come with low spoke counts?

Just humor me on this question.

I've found as low as 24H from Velocity but nothing less.

If they don't, is there a reason? (Tradition is as good a reason as any).

Thanks

TFT

[rice rocket]

Neuvation uses a 20H tubular alloy rim for the fronts. They only sell the rears w/ a 24H.

[ergott]

Kinlin Tb 25. That rim is tough as nails.

[oldpotatoe]

Do alu. tubular rims come with low spoke counts?

Just humor me on this question.

I've found as low as 24H from Velocity but nothing less.

If they don't, is there a reason? (Tradition is as good a reason as any).

Thanks

TFT

Very low volume and light rims. Less that 24h would make for an unreliable wheel.

[Kevan]

DT Swiss has a 20h version.

[rice rocket]

Less that 24h would make for an unreliable wheel.

Explain this?

There are plenty of 16/18/20H clinchers on the market. A tubular wheel should see much lower stresses than a clincher since it doesn't have to hold the pressure.

[false_Aest]

DT Swiss has a 20h version.


They do? What is it?

Their website is being a PITA for me

[oldpotatoe]

Explain this?

There are plenty of 16/18/20H clinchers on the market. A tubular wheel should see much lower stresses than a clincher since it doesn't have to hold the pressure.

Much heavier rims. A Velocity Escape tubie rim is about 370 grams, light rim.

I doubt a 370 gram, aluminum clincher with those few spokes would be reliable, particularly on the rear, unless the rider was about a buck 10.

[Kevan]

They do? What is it?

Their website is being a PITA for me

rr585: http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Components/Rims/RR-rims/RR-1-2-black.aspx

[ergott]

rr585: http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Components/Rims/RR-rims/RR-1-2-black.aspx

clincher

[Kevan]

The only appropriate response: D'oh!

[false_Aest]

So where does one start his search when he wants to make an aluminum tubular climbing wheel?

Why am I asking about this?

Well, as I start to piece together next year's race schedule I see a lot more climbing in the mix and a few less crits (Mt Whitney SR, Everest Challenge, Mt. Washington, etc). I also can't seem to afford cRabon fibre bling-ness.

Further, I read something or other on Pez about some dude building up tubs that were lighter than a lot of stock bling bling for less bhat or frns or wahtever.

I'm on a budget and I like to rock stuff other people don't. (PS. let's cap rear hub price at $350)

[ergott]

Velocity escape is a great lightweight rim. The kinlin tb 25 is heavier, but a lot stiffer. Both would serve your needs quite well.

Get white industries hubs. The are the best hub performance/dollar ratio and a beautiful to boot. Easy to service as well.

[thegunner]

So where does one start his search when he wants to make an aluminum tubular climbing wheel?

Why am I asking about this?

Well, as I start to piece together next year's race schedule I see a lot more climbing in the mix and a few less crits (Mt Whitney SR, Everest Challenge, Mt. Washington, etc). I also can't seem to afford cRabon fibre bling-ness.

Further, I read something or other on Pez about some dude building up tubs that were lighter than a lot of stock bling bling for less bhat or frns or wahtever.

I'm on a budget and I like to rock stuff other people don't. (PS. let's cap rear hub price at $350)

:D

[oldpotatoe]

Velocity escape is a great lightweight rim. The kinlin tb 25 is heavier, but a lot stiffer. Both would serve your needs quite well.

Get white industries hubs. The are the best hub performance/dollar ratio and a beautiful to boot. Easy to service as well.

What he said but also look at 7900 hubs if you are a shimano/sram kinda guy or Record if Campagnolo(32h only..) and also DT.

Easy to make a 1350-1400 gram or so wheelset using pretty standard components and not making the low spoke count/thin spoke/light rim mistake.

[merckx]

Get a pair of Fulcrum Zero tubs. 1445 grams that you can rely on.

[oldpotatoe]

Get a pair of Fulcrum Zero tubs. 1445 grams that you can rely on.

$1400..or get a set of tubies using Escapes and set of training clincers for the same $1400. Fulcrums can be great wheels but spokes that cost $12 or so each, rebuilds of the rear which cost the same as some wheels, nice and red tho, very stiff.

[A1CKot]

Was following this thread a while back but haven't kept current. A lot of good ideas are tossed about making it easy to pick and choose whats best for you.

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=62998