post a pic of your tandem!

[54ny77]

post 'em if you got 'em!

i'm looking for color and frame ideas.

thanks. :)

[dvs cycles]

2007 Santana Team Scandium down the page in this thread.
Post #15
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=4573

[pdmtong]

probably not what you had in mind but this is our single track killer:

ventana "el conquistador de montanas" in electric superdust with gold king headset/hubs, 6" maverick duc 32 front, 4" rp23 rear, 203/185 hope 6piston hydraulics, middleburn cranks, XO shifting, 819 UST's

[ZippRider]

This is my 2003 Santana

[Kirk007]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/landshark_98/P8310555.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/landshark_98/P8310559.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/landshark_98/P8310560.jpg

[bironi]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/landshark_98/P8310555.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/landshark_98/P8310559.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii145/landshark_98/P8310560.jpg

What do you think of your Erikson? Just curious, I've got a buddy who has a single built by Glenn about 10 years ago. He loves it. Rock solid, and the paint is still in great shape. This guy is a unofficial gear tester. It's a real testament to the paint job. He can break most stuff, and does.

Byron

[GregL]

Our Burley Rumba from the last year of their tandem production (2006?). Since this pic was taken (2008 NYS TT championships), the fork was replaced with an Alpha-Q. The Rolf Prima wheels are rock solid and have been 100% reliable.

-Greg

[Kirk007]

What do you think of your Erikson? Just curious, I've got a buddy who has a single built by Glenn about 10 years ago. He loves it. Rock solid, and the paint is still in great shape. This guy is a unofficial gear tester. It's a real testament to the paint job. He can break most stuff, and does.

Byron

Love it. It's ten years old. Very solid and stable at speed. It has been to Italy with us; we are not a real strong pair particularly uphill, but on descents we make up a lot of ground. No one could keep on our wheel (well except for Andy H) on some of those descents in Tuscany, and on twisty descents its like riding a long set of slalom skis. Great craftsmanship - very nice filet brazing. ANd Glenn is great (particularly as a tour leader in France!).

[54ny77]

greg, you two are on a SERIOUSLY DIFFERENT level than we could ever hope to be!!! :beer:

the only thing we share in common is riding on a certain tropical island! :cool:

couple of questions for ya though, if you'll indulge me...

1) crankarm length--do you just get the same for captain & stoker, or run different lengths?

2) recommendation for seatpost--since stoker stem & bar is mounted there, do you run carbon or alu., and if former, which brand/model?

3) do you run a triple or regular double drivetrain setup?

4) stoker seatpost--necessary for a shock absorbing one, or just a more attentive captain ("hi honey--here comes a bump! oh, missed that, did i? so sorry..." ;) )

5) rear triangle (and wheel) spacing preference--145 or 160?

6) timing chain--presume regular chain is fine, or is the belt drive really, really worth it?

7) stoker bars--bullhorn or regular with shifter stubs, like you have there? any clearance issues for you with that stoker bar setup, i.e., bar hitting you in the rear?

thanks a bunch. great pic of both you you, by the way.

cheers.

-jim
Our Burley Rumba from the last year of their tandem production (2006?). Since this pic was taken (2008 NYS TT championships), the fork was replaced with an Alpha-Q. The Rolf Prima wheels are rock solid and have been 100% reliable.

-Greg

[zap]

Here you go.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=26915

Did a few tt but did no better than second. Two skinny blokes won that hilly tt.

Since upgraded to triple Campy 10 and wound up fork.

[NateM]

Finally lost the child cranks,replaced with Davinci 3 hole.My stoker is 11 and going strong.No paint though. :)

[Bradford]

we call him Clifford, the Big Red Bike, or Cliffy for short.

[surfbikeswim]

downhill from Bisbee, AZ

[GregL]

couple of questions for ya though, if you'll indulge me...

1) crankarm length--do you just get the same for captain & stoker, or run different lengths?

2) recommendation for seatpost--since stoker stem & bar is mounted there, do you run carbon or alu., and if former, which brand/model?

3) do you run a triple or regular double drivetrain setup?

4) stoker seatpost--necessary for a shock absorbing one, or just a more attentive captain ("hi honey--here comes a bump! oh, missed that, did i? so sorry..." ;) )

5) rear triangle (and wheel) spacing preference--145 or 160?

6) timing chain--presume regular chain is fine, or is the belt drive really, really worth it?

7) stoker bars--bullhorn or regular with shifter stubs, like you have there? any clearance issues for you with that stoker bar setup, i.e., bar hitting you in the rear?

thanks a bunch. great pic of both you you, by the way.

cheers.

-jim
Thanks for the kind words. We were on great form when that pic was taken. Hope to get back to that form later in the summer...

1) We use 175s in front, 170s in back. That seems to be the norm for tandem cranks, although I have seen other lengths advertised.

2) Aluminum seatpost in front. I run a Ritchey Pro. I wouldn't feel comfortable with carbon, especially due to the forces imparted by the stoker.

3) We run a triple (53-39-30). We hardly ever use the 30, but it's nice when you hit an unexpected double-digit grade.

4) My wife has used both and prefers a suspension post.

5) Really a non-issue. Ours is 145. Both spacings work well if properly set up. With 160, you have to make sure the chainline is set up correctly. Knock wood, I've never had a problem with a rear wheel.

6) I've never had any issues with the timing chain. Keep it properly tensioned and lubed and it lasts a long time. That said, the belt drive looks very interesting. I understand that it can be too wide for some bikes if the chainstays aren't designed for it. Here's a link with some rider experiences: https://webcyclery.com/pages.php?pageid=72

7) There's a saying in tandem circles: "the stoker is always right." My wife likes a road drop bar, complete with stoker brake hoods and Cane Creek Speed Bars. Most stokers like bullhorns. I've ridden both with no significant issues hitting the bars. When my wife is riding the hoods, I occassionally feel her hands brush my legs, but it's not bothersome.

Tandems are a blast, provided the team is in sync. Nothing like shocking the local Wednesday night hot dogs when they get dropped by the tandem going uphill, or beaten in a town line sprint. The tandem reminds me of the Lockheed JetStar I used to fly; if you manage its energy correctly, it can really move.

-Greg

[bironi]

Love it. It's ten years old. Very solid and stable at speed. It has been to Italy with us; we are not a real strong pair particularly uphill, but on descents we make up a lot of ground. No one could keep on our wheel (well except for Andy H) on some of those descents in Tuscany, and on twisty descents its like riding a long set of slalom skis. Great craftsmanship - very nice filet brazing. ANd Glenn is great (particularly as a tour leader in France!).

Cool. Thanks. That same buddy and I did Glenn's Alps tour in 2001. We saw Lance give Ulrich the look on the tele at a bar up top, then went out to snap pics as they went by. Great tour.

Byron

[DRB]

We snagged this "never built up" in 2001. It was kind of a wild card but it has turned out to be a perfect fit, zero flex, very responsive and a bit of a head-turner. It was pictured on the back of 1999 Serotta catalog and it was allegedly built as a wedding gift for a rep. Sometimes things just work out right; we have put 25K+ miles on it and we have a good start on the 2010 season.

[David Kirk]

We snagged this "never built up" in 2001. It was kind of a wild card but it has turned out to be a perfect fit, zero flex, very responsive and a bit of a head-turner. It was pictured on the back of 1999 Serotta catalog and it was allegedly built as a wedding gift for a rep. Sometimes things just work out right; we have put 25K+ miles on it and we have a good start on the 2010 season.

I remember that one. Cool to see it again.

Dave

[VTCaraco]

I did a factory tour when Serotta was over on Middle Grove road ~ summer of 1992 if my memory is right ~ and remember seeing a tandem resting against a wall. I don't recall who was showing us around, but he explained that the builders would often make variations of what folks typically see; as an example of the skill and customization options available. Growing up 30 or so miles from the factory and riding, on occasion, with some of the Serotta folks (with folks from Adirondack Chiropractor team / Bike Works), it didn't take a whole lot to add to my sense of lust.
That factory tour and conversation with several builders sure did affirm Serotta's status for me. My bride bought me a T-Max shortly thereafter as my wedding present ~ which added to my sense that I picked the right spouse, too.

... we aren't, however, the greatest tandem pair. She's merciless on the flats and endures the hills, while I like to hammer the hills and cruise the flats. Our Cannondale tandem, consequently, doesn't see as much use as it should.

[Marcy]

Here's a pic of our Co-Mo Roadster (Al) at one of the Pacific overlooks on Vandenberg AFB in CA.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=53645

This has been the perfect place to gel as a tandem team, as there are very few cars on the 300+ miles of roads on this mostly empty missile base (100,000 acres).
The bike is great, we got it from Kings in Seal Beach as a demo close out deal. It's been wonderful bike relationship enhancer, as my lovely bride doesn't have a lot of biking experience. The tandem is an excellent way to log saddle time together and build skills and good habits on the bike.
Riding as a team with someone who is new also forces you to break down your own riding (why are you doing that?)
We've built some excellent memories on that bike so far, and I'm looking forward to more.
-- Marc

[toasttoast]

I picked this up late in the winter for a great price (375) on a whim, knowing it wasn't quite the right size.

http://i43.tinypic.com/a0zcps.jpg

It's a Colin Laing tandem from I'd guess late 70s... funny little kooks like 130mm rear spacing, 5spd freewheel, and 27" wheels :)

(pic was from while I was adjusting with the captain position -- had to swap the saddle for a Flite with less rails-to-ass distance, in order to actually fit the stoker stem on there!)

Anyway, it might actually turn out that my girlfriend (who is slightly longer-legged) will get to be the captain. Not too sure how I feel about that, but we're having a heck of a time getting her comfortable as a stoker. Ah well, whatever works to get us on the road!

[snah]

I picked this up late in the winter for a great price (375) on a whim, knowing it wasn't quite the right size.

http://i43.tinypic.com/a0zcps.jpg

It's a Colin Laing tandem from I'd guess late 70s... funny little kooks like 130mm rear spacing, 5spd freewheel, and 27" wheels :)

(pic was from while I was adjusting with the captain position -- had to swap the saddle for a Flite with less rails-to-ass distance, in order to actually fit the stoker stem on there!)

Anyway, it might actually turn out that my girlfriend (who is slightly longer-legged) will get to be the captain. Not too sure how I feel about that, but we're having a heck of a time getting her comfortable as a stoker. Ah well, whatever works to get us on the road!

You might like the view better from behind ;)

[snah]

Called about this one just today.

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/1678193066.html

Anyone with greater tandem knowledge want to advise? It's full Suntour, bar end shifters, triple with 6 speed (room for upgrade). Haven't seen it, but supposed to be in excellent condition.

[Bytesiz]

Called about this one just today.

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/1678193066.html

Anyone with greater tandem knowledge want to advise? It's full Suntour, bar end shifters, triple with 6 speed (room for upgrade). Haven't seen it, but supposed to be in excellent condition.

Might have 27" wheels which will limit you on tire selection.