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fiamme red
03-19-2010, 10:40 AM
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216

Dead Squirrels Scrolls III
(a letter received)

Grant:
There's another cautionary tale in the dead squirrel scrolls, and it fits right in with some of your other warnings about the suitability of high-tech racing gear for recreational riding.

Note the front wheels on both of the squirrel-downed bikes with sheared forks. One wheel appears to have 20 spokes, maybe 24 max, while the other front wheel has one of those goofy "8 pairs of spokes" (or six trios of spokes) lacing patterns.

What do both of those front wheels have in common? Huge gaps between spokes that allowed a very large squirrel to get his head INTO the wheel before his nose got knocked by a spoke.

Look at the biggest space between spokes on the 32 spoke wheel, and you'll see that once the bike is moving at even 10 MPH, Mr. Squirrel has a very narrow window and chances are his nose will get clipped and he'll be deflected. Sure, the bike rider may still go down, but it won't be a hard front-wheel-stops-cold & over-the-bars-you-go disaster.

Anyone who has tried to replicate the "Breaking Away" frame-pump-in-the-spokes trick, hopefully just for fun, has probably learned how hard it is to jam even a stick into a 32 spoke wheel when it's spinning. With a 36 spoke wheel, it's even harder. Easier with a 28, or course, but compared to the wheels shown with squirrel heads in 'em, even a 28 spoke wheel aids your chances of survival when something, or some squirrel, tries to cross to the other side of the road when you and your bike are in the way.

The wheels with huge gaps between spokes are asking for trouble, as puppies, chickens, radio-controlled cars, not to mention squirrels, are given a bigger target, easier to hit. Even with a steel fork, it's gonna hurt. The few extra ounces and wind-tunnel drag that comes with 32 spokes is cheap insurance, especially when you don't have a team support car only seconds away.

Richard Johnston

JeffS
03-19-2010, 12:12 PM
I have to wonder how some people muster up the courage to leave the house on a daily basis. They seem fearful of everything.

Mr. Squirrel
03-19-2010, 01:35 PM
I have to wonder how some people muster up the courage to leave the house on a daily basis. They seem fearful of everything.

i agree. please leave your house and go for a ride. where do you live?

mr. squirrel

RFC
03-19-2010, 03:30 PM
Rivendale has an opportunity here -- squirrel guards for low spoke count wheels.

RFC
03-19-2010, 06:31 PM
And after you hit the squirrel. . .

http://yougottaseethisvideo.com/2007/09/martha-stewart-of-rednecks-huntress.html

Louis
03-19-2010, 06:35 PM
Rivendale has an opportunity here -- squirrel guards for low spoke count wheels.

You just have to insert a few of these around the rim. (Not in the traditional "flapping mode" on the fork blade.)

https://www.barrysmagicshop.com/images/bicycle_cards.jpg

OtayBW
03-20-2010, 06:16 AM
i agree. please leave your house and go for a ride. where do you live?

mr. squirrel
If you come here, you will be caught and deported.

kong79
03-20-2010, 02:10 PM
"His little tender butt". Mr. Squirrel, is your butt tender? We can make it that way if you want. We'll run you a nice warm bath.

AndrewS
03-20-2010, 11:14 PM
Maybe someone will develop an aero/anti-squirrel spoke that flares to an inch wide just over the nipple, covering those unfortunate gaps.

Or maybe front and rear discs will come into vogue?


Does anyone know of a chart that shoes small animal sizes vs. rim hole number and cross pattern?



Aside from the teasing, the notion of training or recreation on super expensive wheels, in particular, seems like a misapplication of resources. Wheels literally bear the brunt of poor road conditions and are usually the first thing to be damaged in a crash or on a pothole. A more modest and/or tough wheelset (and tires) for most days backed up "race" wheels and light slicks for the heavy stuff does seem like a more thoughtful approach to getting the most from your bike.

William
03-21-2010, 07:09 AM
Aside from the teasing, the notion of training or recreation on super expensive wheels, in particular, seems like a misapplication of resources. Wheels literally bear the brunt of poor road conditions and are usually the first thing to be damaged in a crash or on a pothole. A more modest and/or tough wheelset (and tires) for most days backed up "race" wheels and light slicks for the heavy stuff does seem like a more thoughtful approach to getting the most from your bike.


Yeah, but they don't "LOOK" fast. :rolleyes: ;)



William