Kelly Bedford is a copycat

[sokyroadie]

Which is a good thing :D . See any similarity? My Keith Lippy vs Kelly Bedford.
Seriously, what are the downsides to this style decal.
1.) Cost
2.) PIA to repaint - Serotta repainted my Lippy (Serotta employee owned it)

The upsides are:
1.) Bulletproof
2.) Unique

How are they attached?

Jeff

[Smiley]

I am pretty sure Vanilla did the same thing too.The Bedford logo is brazed with Silver soder on a SST tube set to keep dissmilarities from occuring between the copper and the SST.

[Ahneida Ride]

Check out Bohemian ... he has been doing SS decals for a decade +.
Sacha offers em too. So does Vendetta.

So do many other builders. Raised brazed on logo's are not unique.
not by a long shot
(and neither are custom stems)
its all in the creativity and and structural integrity.

It takes superior skill to apply them to 953. one little boo boo and well ....
Lugging 953 is no small achievement either.

They are silver soldered on. I watched Kelly do one.
It takes a very experienced brazer.

too little heat and the logo won't adhere properly.
too much and the frame is toast.
There ain't much variance between too little and too much.

On this frame, all the SS work is exposed. Nothing for paint to hide.

[Tom Byrnes]

I saw Kelly's beautiful stainless steel bike at NAHBS. SPOKE is the lucky guy who will get to ride it real soon

[legacysti888]

Check out Bohemian ... he has been doing SS decals for a decade +.
Sacha offers em too. So does Vendetta.

So do many other builders. Raised brazed on logo's are not unique.
not by a long shot
(and neither are custom stems)
its all in the creativity and and structural integrity.

It takes superior skill to apply them to 953. one little boo boo and well ....
Lugging 953 is no small achievement either.

They are silver soldered on. I watched Kelly do one.
It takes a very experienced brazer.

too little heat and the logo won't adhere properly.
too much and the frame is toast.
There ain't much variance between too little and too much.

On this frame, all the SS work is exposed. Nothing for paint to hide.


Dang.

Can't even fathom how much experience one has to acquire to perfect this art.

[jpw]

It reads like an unnecessarily risky process to me. Looks fancy, but....is it worth the risk? What do I know?

[soulspinner]

It reads like an unnecessarily risky process to me. Looks fancy, but....is it worth the risk? What do I know?

Ah yea, just gimme the painted on type....wonder how many frames it takes to learn this proceedure :crap:

[zap]

That SS Bedford with silver brazed copper logo is cool.

[Ahneida Ride]

Ah yea, just gimme the painted on type....wonder how many frames it takes to learn this procedure :crap:

Kelly has 30 + years of experience ... 100000000's of frames.

[William]

Kelly has 30 + years of experience ... 100000000's of frames.


100000000's of FRM's? He's not producing frames outta thin air is he? :confused:


;) :D


William

[rugbysecondrow]

Ah yea, just gimme the painted on type....wonder how many frames it takes to learn this proceedure :crap:

So long as the one you take home isn't the mistake, I am not sure it matters. Plus, it is his name, so it is great to see the pride he takes in displaying it.

I am not sure if copycat is an appropriate description, although the OP might have meant it jokingly. What Kelly did looks fantastic, like it is part of the frame itself rather than something applied to the frame. I am not sure how to discribe it, but it looks like it was meant to be there rather than an afterthought.

[SPOKE]

The head tube on the frame has a 1cm copper extension too.
It fits so well that you can barely see the braze line.

[Seott-e]

Just more sweet looking classic bikes, and we all love them.

[Dekonick]

Beautiful work. IF is fall into a bunch of FRN's, KB is on my short list.

[vjp]

So do many other builders. Raised brazed on logo's are not unique.
not by a long shot


The Lippy is from the 70's, a little ahead of the curve.

vjp

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . ANY artistic or manufacturing technique shown at NAHBS that is NOT "copied" and that is TOTALLY unique? I strongly doubt it. I also know Kelly personally and has lunch with him this past Saturday. I have heard not a word from him making ANY kind of claim that the brazed on logos are any kind of original technique or invention on his part.

I also hope that the OP is speaking tongue in cheek.

BBD

[sokyroadie]

I also hope that the OP is speaking tongue in cheek.

BBD

I thought I made that pretty obvious with the :D. I meant absolutely no malice, just thought it was pretty unique.

Jeff

[333halfevil]

Ah, the lippy belonged to russ Howe who no longer works for Serotta. It was painted at Serotta as a fovor to Russ, which he did not pay for the paint job, but it came out ok. Nice bike though!