CSi roll call...post your serial numbers

[Keith A]

The thread on decoding serial numbers got me thinking about the serial numbers for the CSi and I was curious to see what collection of them we have from the forum members. So post your serial numbers along with the date your CSi was built. Of course pictures of your CSi would be a bonus.

I have two:
o '95/'96 stock - CS 54L 272
o '04 custom fillet brazed with sloping top tube - CCS 55.5 2314

Here's some older pictures of mine and both bikes have had some changes since these were taken...

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8054&stc=1

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10278&stc=1

[Mike748]

1996 CC59 1283 (59x56)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e109/Mike748/IMG_3021.jpg

[Ozz]

CCS 60 2285


see link below...

[93legendti]

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=57373&highlight=csi

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=57295&highlight=csi

Red 2002: c cs 53 2192
Yellow 2002: cs 54 1502
Burgundy 1997:cs 52 452

[Mike748]

Fine, make me feel like an underachiever. I wonder if the "he has more csi's than me" argument will work with my wife...

[jlwdm]

This CSI is no help but I am going to post it anyway.

2005 Kelly Bedford CSI
62 cm st with 1 degree slope
58.5 cm tt

I don't think it has a serial number; it is in Seattle boxed to be shipped to AZ for the winter and I will check again when I open it.

[regularguy412]

My CSI was ordered in late 1996 and I took delivery of the frame and F1 fork in January 1997. The serial number is CS-56-808. It's a 56 x 56 stock frame.

As an additional note that goes along with the broken seat lug thread, mine broke in late 2008. Serotta repaired the frame and repainted it. I took delivery in May 2009. The attached pix are of a previous paint job, after I had Serotta replace the top tube cable stops and repaint in early 2007.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=29458&highlight=csi

During the original repair/repaint, it was discovered that the original F1 fork had developed a slightly loose dropout. Serotta replaced that fork with an Ouzo Pro at no extra charge. The color was slightly darker than the original Midnight Blue. The current color is closer to the original-- seen in this thread, not built up.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=59365&highlight=csi

Mike in AR:beer:

[spiderman]

is an 05 frame purchased on ebay
and built in 08 at expedition company.
after four nice lake laps so far this week
i mounted buzz in the garage
to wait out tomorrow's expected snowfall:
breaking every forum rule of photography
with my telephone...

[duke]

My CSI going ashore in Port Angeles, WA. for an attempt on Hurricane Ridge.
This is 1997 vintage, bought from a forum member about seven years ago.
It has been ridden up and down both coasts and as far east as Singapore.
It presently resides in New Hampshire and will be receiving a group upgrade to used but good Record 10.
duke

[Keith A]

ccs552311Looks like there are two frames built in between ours :) BTW, do you have the geometry specs for your CSi?
My CSI going ashore in Port Angeles, WA. for an attempt on Hurricane Ridge.That's not a picture you see every day. BTW, are you sure yours is from '96? The '96 catalog shows all but the smallest sizes were long "L" which would be indicated in your serial number. My guess is that this is newer than '96.

[duke]

Your right Keith, it is a 97. It has a Serotta 25th anniversary sticker on it. It isn't an anniversary special but was built in 97. Post is edited.
duke

[spiderman]

Looks like there are two frames built in between ours :) BTW, do you have the geometry specs for your CSi?
That's not a picture you see every day. BTW, are you sure yours is from '96? The '96 catalog shows all but the smallest sizes were long "L" which would be indicated in your serial number. My guess is that this is newer than '96.

that must make mine an 04 then, too.
that's nice to know.
i bought it new, old stock...
...55x55...

[Keith A]

spiderman -- BTW, did you realize that this has custom geometry...which is what the first "C" in "CCS" indicates.

[malcolm]

My CSI going ashore in Port Angeles, WA. for an attempt on Hurricane Ridge.
This is 1997 vintage, bought from a forum member about seven years ago.
It has been ridden up and down both coasts and as far east as Singapore.
It presently resides in New Hampshire and will be receiving a group upgrade to used but good Record 10.
duke


Man if you could read the logo that would be a photo for the catalog. Great picture.

[duke]

The original picture has much better resolution than the one that fits the forum requirements. My photo shopping is about 1st grade level and this is the result.
duke

[Gothard]

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[SEABREEZE]

My CSI going ashore in Port Angeles, WA. for an attempt on Hurricane Ridge.

duke

The question is does the ship have a bike path while at sea. All kikdding aside,
best picture of bike in action to date.

On a serious note, what if any exra precation do you take from exposing it to all that salt air

KEITH, A question for you as well, which CSI do you prefer, the sloper or non sloper.

[Keith A]

Gothard -- You certainly have two special CSi's. Do you have the serial numbers for them? BTW, have you built up your 20th anniversary CSi yet?

[spiderman]

spiderman -- BTW, did you realize that this has custom geometry...which is what the first "C" in "CCS" indicates.

i was told it was a custom frame
but also that it was a stock geometry
so have always been confused by those terms.
when i had it built
my lbs owner said
it was as if it were
my custom measurements!
so even though it wasn't custom built for me
intentionally...
...it seems so practically...

[Mike748]

It could be something other than the TT/ST lengths making it custom. Chainstays, angles, HT, bb drop come to mind. My '02 catalog says 55cm road geometry was:
73/73 angles, 55/55 st/tt, 41 cs, 8cm drop

[jlwdm]

i was told it was a custom frame
but also that it was a stock geometry
so have always been confused by those terms.



Custom is a lot more than geometry. Could be stock geometry with different tubing choices to give a particular ride or match the style of the rider it was made for.

Jeff

[Keith A]

KEITH, A question for you as well, which CSI do you prefer, the sloper or non sloper.Good question. I personally don't feel that the sloping geometry makes that much difference in the way the bike rides. About the only time I notice this is when the top tube brushes against my leg and it hits in a different location.

The '96 has standard stock geometry which happens to work really well for me and the '04 was a custom (but not for me). They both ride very nicely and I enjoy being on them as much as I do my high carbons (Time VXR and Colnago C-50). If I had to choose between the two, it would be the '96. I'm not sure how to describe it, but I feel more connected when riding this bike than any other one I own. The fit is spot on and it handles superbly...it's a keeper.

[Ozz]

My CSI going ashore in Port Angeles, WA. for an attempt on Hurricane Ridge.
This is 1997 vintage, bought from a forum member about seven years ago.
It has been ridden up and down both coasts and as far east as Singapore.
It presently resides in New Hampshire and will be receiving a group upgrade to used but good Record 10.
duke
How was the ride up to Hurricane Ridge?

That is a cool area....one of my customers is a sponsor of a bike race in Sequim every year (Tour de Dungeness).

[duke]

Out of three attempts I have made it twice. Forgot to take something to eat and ran out of gas on one try. The views are fantastic. The cedar trees are impressive and you do end up above the tree line. Starting at the P.A. city dock (sea level) it is about 18 miles to the end of the road and I think the elevation is right at a mile. There are a couple of tunnels that going up aren't bad but coming down at 40+ mph are really dark. Of course you could slow down, but I never think of that. It does cost about 8 dollars to get in the park, which is about the last ten miles of the ride. If you are in P.A. stop in for a great meal and killer wine list at Bella Italia, and tell Neil (the owner) that Earl sent you.
duke

[jlwdm]

Duke,

I am going to have to do the Hurricane Ridge ride. I was born in Port Angeles and left when I was nine - 53 years ago.

Gives me a reason to go check out PA again.

Jeff

[duke]

Here is a shot of P.A. from Ediz Hook, locally known as the 'spit'. Hurricane Ridge is not in this picture it is more to the right.
duke

[Keith A]

Come on guys & gals, I'm sure we have more CSi's out there :)

[martinrjensen]

Here is my 2000 CSI # CS58 1828
I have made a couple changes since this picture was taken. I swapped the ergo handle bars for Nitto Noodle bars and removed the fluted seat post and moved it back onto my Trek TX900. The Serotta now has a standard aluminum seat post now. Other than that, it's pretty much the same as pictured. It's running full Ultegra 10 speed with a triple. It's really hard to see it but I painted the lugs gray. I think it's a crime to have a lugged bike with no special lug work and I just couldn't leave it plain though i did go for a fairly subdued secondary color choice. if I ever strip it down, I may change that to a little more of a contrast, not sure.

[SPOKE]

i've got three. outstanding bikes
most recent is a 25th anniversary bike i purchased from Michael Grotz at CycleSport in NJ.

[titans]

I always joke with Mike that he should be riding 56cm bikes instead of 55cm... :)

[Pete Serotta]

Where are the pictures????

i've got three. outstanding bikes
most recent is a 25th anniversary bike i purchased from Michael Grotz at CycleSport in NJ.

[Ken Robb]

[QUOTE=martinrjensen]Here is my 2000 CSI # CS58 1828
I used to have one that looked a lot like this one.

[Ahneida Ride]

I rode the last CSI ever made.

Mr. Bedford's personal machine. :beer:

[Ozz]

I rode the last CSI ever made.

Mr. Bedford's personal machine. :beer:
pictured above by mr. "jlwdm"....nice looking ride! :beer:

[martinrjensen]

unfortunately it's not going to get ridden a lot during winter. I have a specific rain bike, but I ride it when it's nice out....it'll get some riding[QUOTE=martinrjensen]Here is my 2000 CSI # CS58 1828
I used to have one that looked a lot like this one.

[Saxon]

I believe mine is 1999 or 2000. Serial number CS 55 1193.

[mflaherty37]

#2347

[slowgoing]

what was the serial number of the last CSI made?

[jlwdm]

I don't think it has a serial number. It is the one I posted that Kelly Bedford made for himself. It is boxed up in the Seattle area ready to head to Arizona. When I unpack it I will look again.

Edit: I have a build sheet. Do the numbers in the upper left of the build sheet tie into the serial number on the frame?

Edit 2 in response to Keith A's next post. In the upper left of the build sheet it says "0410 CSI OS 1.125 OS (2005)." Then the size must go in the number. 62,5 (1 degree of slope)

The build sheet shows F2 fork but it is F3.

I will add a couple of partial frame shots to my original post.


Jeff

[Keith A]

Jeff -- The serial number is on the build sheet in one of the upper corners, I just can't remember which one as the build sheet that I have is at my office.

[bronk]

Cs 57 1158 -- 57 square, F1 fork.

[Dekonick]

CCS 56 1824 - just purchased used here a few months ago. When its built up Ill post some pics. I thought it was a stock 56, but the CCS tells me different.

[dgoodwin]

Here's my CSI, serial number CS 58L 745. The original owner raced it at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. I'm the second owner. Great bike! This is the machine I'll most likely bring to the West Coast 11/1 Forum Ride.

[chuckroast]

Similar era, similar geometry, same Colorado Concept tubing, just rendered in Ti. This is my daily rider and my all day comfortable bike. Serial number is CT 56 148.

[jumpjube]

[mine] 2003 CCS 54.5 - 02283, F2 fork, onyx w/ gold outline decals. Chorus

[hers] 2001 CS 55 - 1948, F1 fork, pinot noir / white panels on ST & DT, gray solid decals w/ black outline. Daytona

We love 'em both!

[Keith A]

what was the serial number of the last CSI made?Kelly's personal CSi was the last one built, but has an odd serial number. 2347 is the highest number that has been posted so far.

How about the lowest serail number? I have #272...but there are obviously 271 frames before mine. Anyone have one of these?

[mandasol]

CCS 56 1824 - just purchased used here a few months ago. When its built up Ill post some pics. I thought it was a stock 56, but the CCS tells me different.

Hey, Mike. The frame's head tube is extended 1 cm, so I guess that's where the custom serial number designation came from. Everything else is stock geometry.

This thread is killing me, I want another CSI.

[SEABREEZE]

This thread is killing me, I want another CSI.

You can add me to that list
st 54
tt 58
ht 20
a sloping frameset

[Keith A]

You can add me to that list
st 54
tt 58
ht 20
a sloping framesetAlthough this isn't a CSi, there is a nice CDA on eBay that is ending soon that looks like it fits your geometry requests...
eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270473331493&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123)

[jsfoster]

The midnight blue CSi I bought about '97 is : cs 56 1143. I have scanned this thread and don't know what the last numbers signify. I'll post pic later, if the weather stays nice.
-jf

[Keith A]

jf -- The last three or four digits indicate the order in which the frame was built. It looks like the highest number is in the 2K range.

[fungusamungus33]

CCS 57 2050

Hopefully some pics later. It's actually a cross frame. Great bike!

CCB

[stephenyi]

CS 58L 169

Pictures to come after new parts are on. :)

[Dekonick]

Hey, Mike. The frame's head tube is extended 1 cm, so I guess that's where the custom serial number designation came from. Everything else is stock geometry.

This thread is killing me, I want another CSI.

Thanks for the info! I thought it was pretty much stock as it looks ALMOST exactly like my 56 CR except the CR has hot pink and dark purple fade paint... Hmmm can you guess when that frame was built?!?

The CSI is in the process of being built up - it is in a holding pattern right now because I have more on the honey do list to complete... BB, cranks, stem, bar, chorus shifters, rear der, brakes all installed. Wheels are going to be cheapo Askium's as thats what I have to spare.

What did you use on the DT for the shifter cable housing end's - my Hors Cat's use Serotta specific 'adjusters' - and my CR has the DT shifter bosses (or whatever you call 'em) so I haven't worked on a frame like this before. Any advice would help :) BTW - beautiful frame.

[Keith A]

CS 58L 169Here's the earliest number that has been posted so far.

[Dekonick]

Here's the earliest number that has been posted so far.

Thats pretty early in the production!

[spiderman]

this csi discussion is so nice
i think it deserves it's own sticky...
...better than who are you
and what do you look like...
csi--where are they now
and what do they look like!?!
i would like to see more posts of these
high end bikes...(so far) only one of which i own
and have been riding more and more...
and seriously thinking about
an f3 in platinum
because of this thread!

[Keith A]

csi--where are they now
and what do they look like!?!
i would like to see more posts of these
high end bikes...(so far) only one of which i ownI'm with you, let's see some more of these beauties!

an f3 in platinum
because of this thread!Just make sure you get one with the correct rake ;)

[spiderman]

obtw,
not sure i saw the f3 in your post...
...i should look more closely.
the f2 with the 43 rake
is working quite well for me!

now this is what i call service!
maybe the sticky will result
in a revival of the tried and true
gold standard in modern day cycling!
maybe someday ben would build me
my very own
truly custom csi
fixed with fender mounts
and clearance for 32mm studded snow tires!

[Keith A]

obtw,
not sure i saw the f3 in your post...
...i should look more closely.
the f2 with the 43 rake
is working quite well for me!You saw correctly, I need to take a new picture of this bike with the mods that have occurred since this picture.

[Ahneida Ride]

This CSi is no help but I am going to post it anyway.

2005 Kelly Bedford CSI
62 cm st with 1 degree slope
58.5 cm tt

I don't think it has a serial number; it is in Seattle boxed to be shipped to AZ for the winter and I will check again when I open it.

THIS is the very LAST CSi made.

Built by Kelly Bedford for Kelly.

I rode this bike and it does NOT get any better.

You sir, have a true piece of History.

This pictures do not do this bike justice.

[spiderman]

is the f2 fork pictured on your white 04 csi
actually the fork now on my current 04 csi??

[jlwdm]

THIS is the very LAST CSi made.

Built by Kelly Bedford for Kelly.

I rode this bike and it does NOT get any better.

You sir, have a true piece of History.

This pictures do not do this bike justice.

Okay, the bike should make it to AZ next week and I think I will be there for a couple of days to ride and maybe take some better photos.

Jeff

[duke]

Another photo of my CSI, this time at home in NH instead of hanging on a crane in Port Angeles.
duke

[Keith A]

is the f2 fork pictured on your white 04 csi
actually the fork now on my current 04 csi??Yes indeed :)

[L84dinr]

An older pic with deep drop Cinelli handlebars and DT shifters. Didn't stick with the deep drops for long.

[Keith A]

L84dinr -- Very nice...it's hard to go wrong with Big Boy Blue.

[stephenyi]

Here's the earliest number that has been posted so far.

Thats pretty early in the production!

Cool, I win! Anyone know what year this would have been built? I purchased this CSI used from the owner of a local bike shop who now rides a Meivici.

[Keith A]

Cool, I win! Anyone know what year this would have been built? I purchased this CSI used from the owner of a local bike shop who now rides a Meivici.The CSi was introduced in the '95 model year and so I would suspect that yours was built either this year or early '96.

[alembical]

http://serotta.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1152&stc=1

Will add the serial number later, but it is a 1999 model.
http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1152&stc=1

[Keith A]

CC 59 1114 spotted on eBay. So what is the deal with the "CC" code? I thought all of the CSi's were "CS".

[Mike748]

Mine is a CC also cc59-1283, from 95/96. I believe the early custom CSi's continued the CC number range from the CRL's or whatever the preceding top Colorado model was. I don't think the CCS numbers started till later years.

[guyintense]

I posted my Csi, CS 571031 years ago along with my Kelly Bedford Canoe Crit.
You can see them here:
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=14901

[Mike748]

#277 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEROTTA-CSI-finest-AMERICAN-MADE-STEEL-LGD-56_W0QQitemZ170399612107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bi kes?hash=item27ac9bbccb

[Keith A]

#277 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEROTTA-CSI-finest-AMERICAN-MADE-STEEL-LGD-56_W0QQitemZ170399612107QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bi kes?hash=item27ac9bbccbNice looking CSi...which was the fifth one after my red, white and blue CSi.

[marle]

cs 61 25 22

http://serotta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12079&highlight=brian+smith+2004

[Pete Serotta]

I really like the yellow.....DBRK had a pink one that was also gorgeous


cs 61 25 22

http://serotta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12079&highlight=brian+smith+2004

[Jimroad471@sbcglobal]

cs541095

[CSIRider]

CS56 1010

56 56

25th Anniversary edition. Competition red and yellow with a black F-1 fork. Gorgeous paint job.

D/A 9 speed components.

I live next to the W&OD trail in Virginia outside Washington, and ride every morning unless raining or icy. I enjoy my Csi, and appreciate the master craftsmanship so evident in the build, I intend this to be my last bike.

[SBash]

LE 57L 007

[dave thompson]

Nice Skip, and just my size!

[Keith A]

LE 57L 007Love it! One of my all time favorites!

[spiderman]

the signature really seals the deal, too.
reminds me of meeting ben for the first time.
we were just chatting about bikes
prior to the davis phinney saturday ride
in cincinnati a few years back...
...then he got out a permanent marker
and asked me to hold bikes while he signed them...
i had no idea who i was talking to--
and was too embarrassed to have him sign my bike, too.

[Pete Serotta]

Love it and IT IS MY SIZE!!! Lets do a "loaner" program :)

[SBash]

Dave,

Maybe not quite our size up size, could use a tad longer TT and longer head tube. As you can see, I have the seat (rail) adjustment back, so not Ideal fit, but close enough. Great for short rides 20-40 miles and just cruisin around. Had to do a repair on upper seat (post) lug where the tensioner is for seatpost...so far seems to hold my 195-200 lb ass.
BTW, your Taylor is a Beauty!

Nice Skip, and just my size!

[Pete Serotta]

Sweet Ride!!!

[Keith A]

Found this on the 'net for sale...CS 57L 781

[Keith A]

One of the last that Kelly built!!!
Sweet Ride!!!Here's a bigger picture of it...

[ThomasAylesbury]

Not sure when i got this, around 2002 I believe. Recoving from surgery L4, L5, S1 fusion so i can not flip over for serial numbers.

[Marcy]

Mine is a CC also cc59-1283, from 95/96. I believe the early custom CSi's continued the CC number range from the CRL's or whatever the preceding top Colorado model was. I don't think the CCS numbers started till later years.

I had this question as well -- my Blue Serotta has Serial number CC58 1190. The previous owner (bike pictured with his build) thought it was a CSI, but as you can see it doesn't have "CSI" written on the top tube.

It's a custom (top tube is about 56 cm), but I've never been exactly sure what model it was. Beautifully made bike, with the 1/2 fillet brazed and 1/2 lugged tube junctions.

Does anyone know for sure what model this is? Pete?

Thanks in advance for any info anyone may have! :-)

-- Marc

[Pete Serotta]

One of the first CSIs from early 90s probably. At that time there were any lugs available for the ovalized tubing as I recall. Some were made of True Temper, and others later of Columbus...

I had this question as well -- my Blue Serotta has Serial number CC58 1190. The previous owner (bike pictured with his build) thought it was a CSI, but as you can see it doesn't have "CSI" written on the top tube.

It's a custom (top tube is about 56 cm), but I've never been exactly sure what model it was. Beautifully made bike, with the 1/2 fillet brazed and 1/2 lugged tube junctions.

Does anyone know for sure what model this is? Pete?

Thanks in advance for any info anyone may have! :-)

-- Marc

[Marcy]

:)

-- Marc

[Jeff N.]

...with a few upgrades, including Ultegra 6700. Gotta love it. CGS62287, JB paintjob. I can't imagine EVER getting rid of this.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9787/img0664y.jpg (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/img0664y.jpg/)

[chakatrain]

Bah to not posting images well....sorry for bad post...got a decent few pics of my CSI S&S coupled...will see if I can overcome this technical n00bness.

~~~

OK...well, can't seem to get the images to post larger, but...

Here's my belated CSI posting:

Serial #: 0S 55L 225.
S&S coupler retrofit & paint by Bilenky
2009 Centaur 10 speed bits, save '96 Chorus brakes
Mavic Open Pro rims laced to (front) '96 Chorus hub & (back) '09 White Industries hub
Bars: Nitto Noodel
Saddle: Flite Trans Am from a few years ago.

Rides sweet...makes it hard to really need another steel bike. Here's the (small) pics (taken from the riding around Ireland in Spring '09):

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6293/img0260ki.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/img0260ki.jpg/)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5238/img0329ay.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/img0329ay.jpg/)
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3038/img0368l.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/img0368l.jpg/)

[regularguy412]

Hopefully a lil better. :)

[Keith A]

Here's my belated CSI posting:

Serial #: 0S 55L 225.
S&S coupler retrofit & paint by Bilenky
2009 Centaur 10 speed bits, save '96 Chorus brakes
Mavic Open Pro rims laced to (front) '96 Chorus hub & (back) '09 White Industries hub
Bars: Nitto Noodel
Saddle: Flite Trans Am from a few years ago.Very nice. BTW, are you sure this is "OS" instead of "CS"? It looks like this one was built a little before my red, white and blue CSi.

[chakatrain]

@regularguy412: thanks...MUCH better...would you send me a PM on how you did that?

@Keith A: you're right...on second look the serial # is CS 55L 225. Was hard to see with the paint and my old eyes :p.

Doesn't have a lot of stickers on it, for better or worse. Didn't mean to make it that stealth, but Bilenky didn't have many stickers at the time and it was a rush job for a European trip (got to love Italy!).

[rodcad]

Just won this one with 100% filet brazed headtube joints. Wish it had the half and half joints. Any thoughts or comments welcomed.

[Jeff N.]

Get that frame off to JB and he'll PAINT head tube lugs on!

[oliver1850]

Just won this one with 100% filet brazed headtube joints. Wish it had the half and half joints. Any thoughts or comments welcomed.

Glad it ended up here. I would have bid more if I hadn't gone to sleep.

[Keith A]

That's a great deal on a CSi...welcome to the club.

[PaulE]

Just won this one with 100% filet brazed headtube joints. Wish it had the half and half joints. Any thoughts or comments welcomed.

I put in a bid but held the line at $300 including shipping. So I'm sorry if it made you pay a little more! You still got a great deal though and will love that bike when you take it for the first ride!

My CSI is a 2001 custom 60 x 60 with 2 cm head tube extension and TdF lugs that I bought new - CCS 60 1962. Originally it had an F1 fork and a red/yellow fade paint job, now it has a custom steel fork made by Dave Kirk that matches the F1 geometry and a Joe Bell paint job in pearl white with a red head tube and seat tube panel, red in the lug and 3D dropout windows and black pin striping on the lug lines. Pictures of both paint jobs are in the gallery.

[rodcad]

I put in a bid but held the line at $300 including shipping. So I'm sorry if it made you pay a little more! You still got a great deal though and will love that bike when you take it for the first ride!

My CSI is a 2001 custom 60 x 60 with 2 cm head tube extension and TdF lugs that I bought new - CCS 60 1962. Originally it had an F1 fork and a red/yellow fade paint job, now it has a custom steel fork made by Dave Kirk that matches the F1 geometry and a Joe Bell paint job in pearl white with a red head tube and seat tube panel, red in the lug and 3D dropout windows and black pin striping on the lug lines. Pictures of both paint jobs are in the gallery.

Yep I guess I outbid you then. I'm pretty happy :banana: with the price. It wouldn't have shocked me to see the price go double or a bit more. I'm seriously considering a repaint since I got it so cheap and I'm a bit on the picky side to say the least.

[sipmeister]

I've attached a picture of my CSi frameset which I acquired several months ago. The actual picture is a stock photo from the seller and I haven't taken any more since the bike is still only a frameset hanging in my den. When it gets build I'll post a new photo. Serial number is CS 56 1497.

[SPOKE]

I've attached a picture of my CSi frameset which I acquired several months ago. The actual picture is a stock photo from the seller and I haven't taken any more since the bike is still only a frameset hanging in my den. When it gets build I'll post a new photo. Serial number is CS 56 1497.

That's a sweet one!

[Hilltopperny]

Mine is ccs 53.5 2226

[oliver1850]

I hope I can remember seeing a .5 in a Serotta serial number. It's sure to come up again at some point.

[dave thompson]

His is a custom, Serotta may have used the actual seat tube size in their serial number.

[Hilltopperny]

His is a custom, Serotta may have used the actual seat tube size in their serial number.

Yes 53.5 is the seat tube size c-to-c and is in the serial number as it is a custom frame. None of my standard size serottas have the extra .5 in the serial number.

[azrider]

Checking in

[hankchong]

Here's mine. Not sure of year.

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20151218/fb5c6b33080fa124a6f61fea2c21bb5d.jpg

[Elefantino]

CS 62 2249

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l84/gmmtwo/image_zpsyrc5kzef.jpeg

Now has gold Shamals instead of Fulcrum 1s.

[Keith A]

Elefantino -- the classic red and yellow, very nice

[PaulE]

Here are some pic's of mine, it gets dirty some time!

[cachagua]

I've attached a picture of my CSi frameset which I acquired several months ago. The actual picture is a stock photo from the seller and I haven't taken any more since the bike is still only a frameset hanging in my den. When it gets build I'll post a new photo. Serial number is CS 56 1497.

That orange is delicious! Seriously thinking about getting my CRL painted that color.

Incidentally -- what's the difference between CRLs and CSIs? Internal rear brake cable vs. open, and. . .

Bueller? Anybody?

[Keith A]

cachagua -- I think the CRL was a predecessor to the CSi, and is similar to the model. I don't know all differences between the two, but maybe someone will chime in and answer that question.

[oliver1850]

As far as I know the main difference is the brake cable routing. Internal with side ports on the CRL, split cable stops on the CSI.

I think there are more differences in CSIs during the course of its run than between the CRL and early CSIs.

[flydhest]

Just won this one with 100% filet brazed headtube joints. Wish it had the half and half joints. Any thoughts or comments welcomed.


Chiming in late. I have a 60x60 CSi that used to belong to dbrk. Bought it from him a decade or so ago. It is a bi-laminate, part brazed part lugged. Have always wished I had a full lugged one.

It is now my Colorado bike (see what I did there) keep it at my mother-in-law's in Ft Collins.

[oliver1850]

What's the story on the fillet brazed CSIs? I haven't looked through all the catalogs, but the ones I've seen have been lugged. Are all the fillet brazed frames customs? What years?

Didn't we have a spreadsheet for CSI serial numbers?

[Hilltopperny]

Mine is a faux lugged csi. From what I gathered it was because there were no lugs made to fit the larger headtube so they were filleted and carved out to look like lugs while the rest of the tubes were traditionally lugged. Is there actually a full filleted csi?

[Keith A]

Mine is a faux lugged csi. From what I gathered it was because there were no lugs made to fit the larger headtube so they were filleted and carved out to look like lugs while the rest of the tubes were traditionally lugged. Is there actually a full filleted csi?In addition to the 1 1/8" head tube CSi's, it seems like there were a few other CSi's out there with a mixture of lugs and fillet brazing. However, I don't know the details on these.

As for a full fillet brazed one, I am the owner of one built by Kelly Bedford. It is a custom (not for me) and here's an older picture of this. There have been a number of changes to this bike since this picture, including the addition of a F3 fork.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10278&stc=1&d=1142271577

[Hilltopperny]

In addition to the 1 1/8" head tube CSi's, it seems like there were a few other CSi's out there with a mixture of lugs and fillet brazing. However, I don't know the details on these.

As for a full fillet brazed one, I am the owner of one built by Kelly Bedford. It is a custom (not for me) and here's an older picture of this. There have been a number of changes to this bike since this picture, including the addition of a F3 fork.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10278&stc=1&d=1142271577

A thing of beauty

[chismog]

Mine is a faux lugged csi. From what I gathered it was because there were no lugs made to fit the larger headtube so they were filleted and carved out to look like lugs while the rest of the tubes were traditionally lugged. Is there actually a full filleted csi?

Mine too (2003 CSI): bi-lam fillets at the head tube/top+down tube joints. Pretty sure only the last couple years of production used 1 1/8 head tubes.

There were a few years in the early 90s where some had fillets at a couple joints. AFAIK no fully fillet brazed Serotta steel frames- nothing "production" anyway- obviously the white one above isn't really a production frameset- compact and fully filleted isn't gonna be found in any Serotta catalog.

[jamesau]

CS-59-2143 with 3D dropouts; build date circa 2001.
This is built up with DA 9spd (including rear hub) and is, by far, the quietest bike in my collection.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12937032/CSi_1.jpg

[Gsinill]

CS-58-946

http://i62.tinypic.com/2mzb7si.jpg

Story of its resurrection is here (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=164837&highlight=ashes).

[sipmeister]

A while ago I posted in this thread of my CSi as a frameset.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?p=1878618#post1878618

Here it is now, finally built up. It was my winter of 2016/17 project, but really took one and a half years from start to finish, in acquiring the frameset to deciding on the parts and pieces to complete.

Campy SR 11 thru out, Bora One 35 tubular, Ritchey seat post and handlebar, Chris King GripNut headset, Ti Cycles ChroMo quill with 31.8 handlebar clamp. Bike is 17.2 lbs.

[Keith A]

A while ago I posted in this thread of my CSi as a frameset.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?p=1878618#post1878618

Here it is now, finally built up. It was my winter of 2016/17 project, but really took one and a half years from start to finish, in acquiring the frameset to deciding on the parts and pieces to complete.

Campy SR 11 thru out, Bora One 35 tubular, Ritchey seat post and handlebar, Chris King GripNut headset, Ti Cycles ChroMo quill with 31.8 handlebar clamp. Bike is 17.2 lbs.Very nice indeed.

[sipmeister]

Very nice indeed.

Thank you, sir. Looking forward to ride it. The snow is finally starting to melt slowly and the roads are clear for riding. However, there is still a lot of gravel on the roads from what the crews put down each time it snowed, so this specific bike won't see the road for anther month or two.

[Jeff N.]

*

[flydhest]

Here is mine in sunny Fort Collins, CO. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170216/ad34c9cc2aa96c08085310f3188da06b.jpg

[Clean39T]

Not expecting an unbiased answer here, but what do you all think of this CSi?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/401275860262?_mwBanner=1

Decent tire clearance? Reasonable price? This would be built as a fast commuter and exploring bike...probably 8-9spd Campy, downtube shifters, etc.


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[dave thompson]

Unbiased. The CSi is widely regarded as one of the great steel bikes, an outgrowth of Serottas vast history of building excellent bikes, including Olympic, World Champion and Tour d'France racing bikes.

If that CSi fits, it's dirt cheap. If it doesn't, it's too expensive.

[tuscanyswe]

A while ago I posted in this thread of my CSi as a frameset.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?p=1878618#post1878618

Here it is now, finally built up. It was my winter of 2016/17 project, but really took one and a half years from start to finish, in acquiring the frameset to deciding on the parts and pieces to complete.

Campy SR 11 thru out, Bora One 35 tubular, Ritchey seat post and handlebar, Chris King GripNut headset, Ti Cycles ChroMo quill with 31.8 handlebar clamp. Bike is 17.2 lbs.

Thats a really nice looking bike!

[Clean39T]

Unbiased. The CSi is widely regarded as one of the great steel bikes, an outgrowth of Serottas vast history of building excellent bikes, including Olympic, World Champion and Tour d'France racing bikes.

If that CSi fits, it's dirt cheap. If it doesn't, it's too expensive.



I was thinking it was 605mm TT, but it's 620mm. Standover isn't a concern. I currently ride a 61cm Tarmac w a 25mm setback post and 110mm stem w 78mm reach bars. Hmmm..


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[Gsinill]

Not expecting an unbiased answer here, but what do you all think of this CSi?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/401275860262?_mwBanner=1

Decent tire clearance? Reasonable price? This would be built as a fast commuter and exploring bike...probably 8-9spd Campy, downtube shifters, etc.


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As others said, if it fits go for it. I love mine (the green one above).
Since you asked for tire clearance: with mine I was not able to run 25mm FMB PRs due to limited brake bridge clearance, see here: http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?p=2024805

Had to go back to 23s, but might just be the FMBs and another 25 tire will work.

[sipmeister]

Thats a really nice looking bike!

Thank you. Definitely my most colorful bike.

That being said, this forum is full of great looking bikes.

[terry]

What a great collection of fabulous looking bikes.

[jamesdak]

Looks like this is the place to be if you have a Serotta. I finally just got my first one and am eager to learn as much as I can about them. Mine is supposedly a 1996. Serial number is CS 56L625.

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166686538.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166686539.jpg

All I've done so far is clean it up a bit and make sure the mechanicals work. The bike is super clean and easily pretty much as good cosmetically as anything I have. Winter is full on here though and I may not get it out to see how it feels for months. That thought sucks.

I did luck out a bit. I set up the fit today and once I dialed in the saddle position I found that the reach to the bars with spot on. So no stem hunting for this one!

[abguff]

I got this one in 1996. I had it redone by Serotta around 2010. Unfortunately they no longer had the F3 fork. The F fork that was on it was cracked

SN: CS 54 1202

[oliver1850]

Looks like this is the place to be if you have a Serotta. I finally just got my first one and am eager to learn as much as I can about them. Mine is supposedly a 1996. Serial number is CS 56L625.


All I've done so far is clean it up a bit and make sure the mechanicals work. The bike is super clean and easily pretty much as good cosmetically as anything I have. Winter is full on here though and I may not get it out to see how it feels for months. That thought sucks.

I did luck out a bit. I set up the fit today and once I dialed in the saddle position I found that the reach to the bars with spot on. So no stem hunting for this one!

I'm guessing yours might be a bit older, based on the paint. It's just like the Coors Light team had, but the team replica bikes had various sponsor decals. I'm pretty sure the last year for the CL team was 1994. Seems like Serotta wouldn't have continued to use that paint scheme much beyond a year after the end of the team. The next post seems to support my guess as abguff seems pretty sure about the year of his, and the serial number is nearly 600 above yours.

[abguff]

I'm guessing yours might be a bit older, based on the paint. It's just like the Coors Light team had, but the team replica bikes had various sponsor decals. I'm pretty sure the last year for the CL team was 1994. Seems like Serotta wouldn't have continued to use that paint scheme much beyond a year after the end of the team. The next post seems to support my guess as abguff seems pretty sure about the year of his, and the serial number is nearly 600 above yours.

The serial numbers are a mystery to me. I'm absolutely sure that I got this one in 1996. I had one from around 1987 that cracked in maybe 1993 and I chased after Ben for a few years to give me a warranty replacement. I met him in person in 1996 at a shop and got him to agree to replace my frame if I paid "cost". It was an epic battle that I'll never forget.

No matter if he was still making Ti frames I'd buy one tomorrow!!! The ride is like no other.

[Keith A]

abguff -- That is interesting that you believe this is from '96 as according to the catalog it shows that the sizes had an "L" in the size for '96, but yours does not. BTW, did you have Serotta move the shifter bosses to from the downtube to the headtube? I'm not sure when they starting putting these on the headtube, but oliver1850 might know.

[jamesdak]

I'm guessing yours might be a bit older, based on the paint. It's just like the Coors Light team had, but the team replica bikes had various sponsor decals. I'm pretty sure the last year for the CL team was 1994. Seems like Serotta wouldn't have continued to use that paint scheme much beyond a year after the end of the team. The next post seems to support my guess as abguff seems pretty sure about the year of his, and the serial number is nearly 600 above yours.

Yeah it might be, I just know what it was advertised as and that the serial number is earlier than bikes made later than 1996. The color scheme matches the 1994 team bikes.

[Keith A]

Yeah it might be, I just know what it was advertised as and that the serial number is earlier than bikes made later than 1996. The color scheme matches the 1994 team bikes.I think you might be close on the age, as they only used the "L" in the sizes for a short period of time. My early CSi is supposedly a '95/'96 and my serial number is much lower than yours. I just looked at the '94 catalog and it doesn't show the CSi or F1 fork, these were both introduced in '95.

[abguff]

abguff -- That is interesting that you believe this is from '96 as according to the catalog it shows that the sizes had an "L" in the size for '96, but yours does not. BTW, did you have Serotta move the shifter bosses to from the downtube to the headtube? I'm not sure when they starting putting these on the headtube, but oliver1850 might know.

The bosses were up there when i got it in 1996 and it did have an F1 fork.

Besides the battle to get the bike I'm sure it was 1996 becase i had given up hope with Serotta and ordered a Della Santa about two months earlier and then had this one dropped on my lap when I no longer really needed it. I should look at the DS's serial no and see if there is a year in it.

I guess there is also a chance that Serotta just pulled down an old frame they had and repainted it and told me it was new. Their stock size at that time was a perfect fit for me. No different than full on customs I have.

I still have the failed frame at my other house. Ill check its number next time im there.

[oliver1850]

abguff -- That is interesting that you believe this is from '96 as according to the catalog it shows that the sizes had an "L" in the size for '96, but yours does not. BTW, did you have Serotta move the shifter bosses to from the downtube to the headtube? I'm not sure when they starting putting these on the headtube, but oliver1850 might know.

I had thought '97 was when they started with the HT stops but perhaps it was some time in 1996.

[paredown]

I forgot to put my details in here--the yellow one I picked up this summer:

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697940219&stc=1&d=1495538351
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=205323

serial is CS 57 973, has 25 Year anniversary decal, brazed [HT] cable stops so probably 1997 production?

[oliver1850]

Thanks paredown. That's almost certainly a '97 with the anniversary decal. It helps a lot to know that there were likely less than 950 CSIs produced in the first two years. I'm sure the introduction of the Atlanta in 1996 cut into CSI sales somewhat. So there may be more '95 CSIs out there than '96s. My '96 Atlanta is #280.

[gomango]

My Serotta/Winter CSI is: CC56 770
My other CSI is: CS57L 596

I ride the "596" 4-5 times a week. Fixed at this point.

The 770 remains unbuilt. One of these days......


https://flic.kr/p/pPiKCH

https://flic.kr/p/MzHg6B

[Birddog]

My CSi is S# CS55L 224, I always thought it was from the first year of production whatever that was.

[SPOKE]

This one is from around 2004. This on was built for me and was supposed to have TdF lugs. I was a tiny bit disappointed when I pulled it out of the box but it was such a great looking frameset that I kept it.
S/N CCS552274

[SPOKE]

even has TdF lugs, F3 fork and Kelly Bedford's signature on the chainstay. Bike is about a 2007 vintage. There were only a couple more built after this one.
S/N CCS5502382

[SPOKE]

25th anniversary CSi....TdF lugs, F1 fork, nickel plated lug tips and Shimano 25th anniversary group.
I was lucky enough to buy this bike from my my good friend Mike Grotz, owner of CycleSport in Parkridge NJ.
S/N 2555017

[oliver1850]

Looks like this is the place to be if you have a Serotta. I finally just got my first one and am eager to learn as much as I can about them. Mine is supposedly a 1996. Serial number is CS 56L625.

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166686538.jpg



All I've done so far is clean it up a bit and make sure the mechanicals work. The bike is super clean and easily pretty much as good cosmetically as anything I have. Winter is full on here though and I may not get it out to see how it feels for months. That thought sucks.

I did luck out a bit. I set up the fit today and once I dialed in the saddle position I found that the reach to the bars with spot on. So no stem hunting for this one!

Are there windows in your dropouts? I was looking at gomango's bike and his has windows in the dropouts, while abguff's doesn't appear to have them. The three frames are not very far apart in serial numbers.

[oliver1850]

My Serotta/Winter CSI is: CC56 770
My other CSI is: CS57L 596

I ride the "596" 4-5 times a week. Fixed at this point.

The 770 remains unbuilt. One of these days......


https://flic.kr/p/pPiKCH

https://flic.kr/p/MzHg6B

596 is another that may be on the border between '95 and '96.

Pic of 770? Any difference in details vs. 596 other than geometry?

[oliver1850]

My CSi is S# CS55L 224, I always thought it was from the first year of production whatever that was.

I'd guess you are right. First year was 1995.

[abguff]

Are there windows in your dropouts? I was looking at gomango's bike and his has windows in the dropouts, while abguff's doesn't appear to have them. The three frames are not very far apart in serial numbers.

Windows? Id check if i knew what i was looking for :-)

[gomango]

596 is another that may be on the border between '95 and '96.

Pic of 770? Any difference in details vs. 596 other than geometry?

Yes, here's a pic. This was extensively modified by Eric Estlund.

New fork, discs and fenders.

Following an earlier forum thread, it was a damaged frame, but it had a big upside in value if handled properly by Eric.

I picked it up a few years ago from a forum member for my son.

He promptly outgrew it before I could build it and it doesn't quite fit me.

I'm incredibly lazy when it comes to selling my unused bikes/framesets, so here it sits.

It is definitely available at a decent price if it fits a forum member.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3933/15631544661_72cf83790a_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pPiKCH)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pPiKCH) by gomango1849 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/36270004@N06/), on Flickr

[Rpoole8537]

I purchased my early CSI from Pros Closet earlier this year. My number is: CC 65 767. It does not have lugs on head tube. Steel fork. Black with some metal flake. Any idea on the year?

[Keith A]

Spoke - what are the serial numbers on the CSi's that you posted?

[SPOKE]

Spoke - what are the serial numbers on the CSi's that you posted?


Just updated the posts with S/N's

[oliver1850]

Windows? Id check if i knew what i was looking for :-)

After looking at my own CSI, I'm thinking your dropouts have a small window. Here are a solid dropout from a Legend Ti (1994 ish), a Campagnolo on a 1992 Colorado II (big window) and CSI 958 (1997?) with a small window.

[oliver1850]

Yes, here's a pic. This was extensively modified by Eric Estlund.

New fork, discs and fenders.

Following an earlier forum thread, it was a damaged frame, but it had a big upside in value if handled properly by Eric.

I picked it up a few years ago from a forum member for my son.

He promptly outgrew it before I could build it and it doesn't quite fit me.

I'm incredibly lazy when it comes to selling my unused bikes/framesets, so here it sits.

It is definitely available at a decent price if it fits a forum member.



Wow that's a beauty. I wish it were bigger. It looks to have Campagnolo dropouts, so the change must have been made somewhere between 770 and 958. I assume 770 had the DT shifter bosses originally. Thanks for posting it.

[happycampyer]

Based on the serial numbers posted in this thread, I think mine is older than I thought. Serial no. CS 57 1654, which puts it in the 1999-2000 range. Amazing to think that a 17 - 18 year old frame rides as nicely as anything I own. Simply spectacular.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-CxCvbb7/0/2a7e256e/L/i-CxCvbb7-L.jpg

Here is a shot of the rear dropouts (vertical, with a small window, but not 3D):
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-9dGktXK/0/2a42a9fb/L/i-9dGktXK-L.jpg

[oliver1850]

Hey Happy, is that a repaint? I had no idea Serotta was still painting bikes like that in the CSI era.

[jamesdak]

Based on the serial numbers posted in this thread, I think mine is older than I thought. Serial no. CS 57 1654, which puts it in the 1999-2000 range. Amazing to think that a 17 - 18 year old frame rides as nicely as anything I own. Simply spectacular.


Don't be surprised. I've got plenty of 20-30 year old bikes as fast as anything else. The bike really is such a small part of the equation, especially the good ones for years back.

Your CSI is totally gorgeous by the way!

[jlwdm]

even has TdF lugs, F3 fork and Kelly Bedford's signature on the chainstay. Bike is about a 2007 vintage. There were only a couple more built after this one.
S/N CCS5502382

Kelly said this bike was the last CSI made, which he made for himself. His name is on the top tube, but there is no serial number.

Jeff

[happycampyer]

Hey Happy, is that a repaint? I had no idea Serotta was still painting bikes like that in the CSI era.

It is a repaint. I had it repainted by Toby and Jordan at Hot Tubes. The original paint was a paint scheme that I had never seen before. It was interesting, but I had always wanted a neon fade. Also, when I got it, it didn't have a fork. Here it is mocked up with the fork built by Dave Kirk:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-hKcN8p4/0/1aa5cfca/L/i-hKcN8p4-L.jpg

[SPOKE]

Kelly said this bike was the last CSI made, which he made for himself. His name is on the top tube, but there is no serial number.

Jeff

I remember Kelly telling me that he was going to build himself one before the tubing and lugs were used up at the plant.

[jamesdak]

Kelly said this bike was the last CSI made, which he made for himself. His name is on the top tube, but there is no serial number.

Jeff

That is so cool, a piece of history.


Hmmm, looks like someone tried to emulate that on the one I just picked up. Or maybe it has some real significance...

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166698288.jpg

[Keith A]

More dropouts. The blue one is from my '95/'96 CSi, the second is from the custom fillet brazed sloping CSi.

[tbike4]

I need to find out what all the fuss is about with the CSI. I have an Atlanta and a Colorado but need to scratch the CSI itch.

Whomever is holding onto a 58cm square that is collecting dust help a guy out. SANTA is asking for a list and I know what to tell him.

[abguff]

More dropouts. The blue one is from my '95/'96 CSi, the second is from the custom fillet brazed sloping CSi.

My dropouts are like your on the 95/96 CSi

[jamesdak]

Are there windows in your dropouts? I was looking at gomango's bike and his has windows in the dropouts, while abguff's doesn't appear to have them. The three frames are not very far apart in serial numbers.

LOL, looks like I never responded to this.

Here's a closeup of the rear dropout.

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166686541.jpg

[Ken Robb]

I need to find out what all the fuss is about with the CSI. I have an Atlanta and a Colorado but need to scratch the CSI itch.

Whomever is holding onto a 58cm square that is collecting dust help a guy out. SANTA is asking for a list and I know what to tell him.
My stock 58cm CSi had a 57.5cm top tube.

[oliver1850]

They were 58 x 58 through 1999, then 58 x 57.5 from 2000 on.

[Ken Robb]

They were 58 x 58 through 1999, then 58 x 57.5 from 2000 on.

I wondered about that because I have seen a CSi for sale that was 58x58 and the seller said it was stock. My stock Legend ti was 60x58.5.

[Keith A]

As oliver1850 mentioned, the stock geometries were modified during the years that the CSi was in production. For a while they used an "L" in the serial number that indicated a slightly longer top tube.

[oliver1850]

In 1995 and 1996, the sizes from 53 up had the L designation. The L was kind of redundant though, as there was only one stock frame geometry at that point in time. The L was dropped either for 1997 or 1998 (we don't have a 1997 catalog yet) but the geometry remained the same for most sizes through 1999. 2000 brought shorter top tubes for most sizes.

[jamesdak]

In 1995 and 1996, the sizes from 53 up had the L designation. The L was kind of redundant though, as there was only one stock frame geometry at that point in time. The L was dropped either for 1997 or 1998 (we don't have a 1997 catalog yet) but the geometry remained the same for most sizes through 1999. 2000 brought shorter top tubes for most sizes.

Like this:

http://www.pbase.com/jhuddle/image/166687251.jpg

[farmallguy]

I was lucky to find this frame last summer. It was the color I had been looking for, Pearl White, and it had the steel Serotta fork just like I wanted. Put a new Ultegra 6800 group on along with some Ksyrium SL wheels I had. Excellent ride and performance! SN: CS 52 749, from what I have seen on this thread this must be a 1996 or 1997.

[sailorboy]

Previously passed around here, I still haven't built it up yet since I became it's latest owner about 9 months ago.

CA 54 026 I assume that makes it the 26th out of ??

At this point it's looking like I'll hang some record 9 speed on it, but I've also got a set of dura ace 7800 series that is always tempting since it is one of the better dura ace groups ever made imho.

[Keith A]

I was lucky to find this frame last summer. It was the color I had been looking for, Pearl White, and it had the steel Serotta fork just like I wanted. Put a new Ultegra 6800 group on along with some Ksyrium SL wheels I had. Excellent ride and performance! SN: CS 52 749, from what I have seen on this thread this must be a 1996 or 1997.Looks great! Thanks for sharing.

[jamesdak]

I was lucky to find this frame last summer. It was the color I had been looking for, Pearl White, and it had the steel Serotta fork just like I wanted. Put a new Ultegra 6800 group on along with some Ksyrium SL wheels I had. Excellent ride and performance! SN: CS 52 749, from what I have seen on this thread this must be a 1996 or 1997.

Nice and I love how good the groupset looks on the white frame!

[aeshultz]

Just picked this up a few weeks ago from the original owner;

CCS 56 1833

ST 56 c-t-c
TT 57 c-t-c

Pic is as received, now torn down for cleaning and touch-up.

[jamesdak]

^ :banana::banana::banana: Love it!

[PaMtbRider]

This is new to me but I am the 3rd owner. Both previous owners are also here on the forum.

I bought this as frame and fork and built it with parts I already had. After a few rides I decided I will keep this one for awhile so I put some new wheels on it. It will eventually end up with a Campy group, but the 105 works for now.

I also have an Ottrott and the ride and handling of this is very similar.
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[aeshultz]

Got it put back together Sunday in time to take a quick first ride - I think this one is going to be special.


Just picked this up a few weeks ago from the original owner;

CCS 56 1833

ST 56 c-t-c
TT 57 c-t-c

Pic is as received, now torn down for cleaning and touch-up.

[duncangranger]

New to me, via two previous forum members, 1994 CRL serial number CL 62L 749, which I just built up yesterday from the components that came off of my previous Serotta, which is no longer with us due to a crash, ‘95 or possibly ‘96 CSI CC 60 1198.

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[sailorboy]

Only 20 of these floating around (at most). I wonder how many belong to paceliners?

[stromboli1962]

This Serotta Colorado frame was sold in Germany. The last owner bought it 1991, second hand. Who knows more about this frame, it was custom made? Late 80s? The fork has been in the frame since the beginning. Custom build by Werner Juchem, a German framebuilder. Weight in size 55 cm with Fork, BB and Headset 2475 Gramm. Thank you for help!

[Monsieur Toast]

Recently acquired a Serotta CSI off of eBay. Here is a photo from the listing since it's better than anything I'll be shooting anytime soon. Serial number is CC57 1517, so I'm guessing it's a '99 or '00.

My first Serotta and it rides amazing, but may be a touch too small for me -- I usually ride a custom-fit 58cm Della Santa. Thinking of swapping out the white saddle and bar tape for either dark brown or black. The Chorus groupset works perfectly fine as this is meant to be more of an "around town" bike for me.

http://zerominuszero.net/000/bici/s-l1600-0.jpg

[Clean39T]

CS 62L 663

1996 CSI Stock Geo

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[oliver1850]

Recently acquired a Serotta CSI off of eBay. Here is a photo from the listing since it's better than anything I'll be shooting anytime soon. Serial number is CC57 1517, so I'm guessing it's a '99 or '00.

My first Serotta and it rides amazing, but may be a touch too small for me -- I usually ride a custom-fit 58cm Della Santa. Thinking of swapping out the white saddle and bar tape for either dark brown or black. The Chorus groupset works perfectly fine as this is meant to be more of an "around town" bike for me.



Welcome. That's a pretty one.

[Hilltopperny]

This is my second CSi and oddly enough my second custom bought used with 53.5 in the serial number. Going to swap the wheels out, but likely going to remain the same until I decide to throw the Steel fork I picked up here(thanks Keith!). https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190122/bdaffa1fc6d527fa57cc8482957c32d9.jpg

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[Clean39T]

Recently acquired a Serotta CSI off of eBay. Here is a photo from the listing since it's better than anything I'll be shooting anytime soon. Serial number is CC57 1517, so I'm guessing it's a '99 or '00.

My first Serotta and it rides amazing, but may be a touch too small for me -- I usually ride a custom-fit 58cm Della Santa. Thinking of swapping out the white saddle and bar tape for either dark brown or black. The Chorus groupset works perfectly fine as this is meant to be more of an "around town" bike for me.

http://zerominuszero.net/000/bici/s-l1600-0.jpg

Welcome to the party - that is a beautiful CSI! I might like that color better than my cha-ching green even..

We'll need to see pics of that Della Santa too. Rolland is one of the more revered builders around these parts, as you've probably seen.

[TimD]

Saw that eggplant CSI on eBay and loved it. Great find, enjoy it!

[Monsieur Toast]

Welcome to the party - that is a beautiful CSI! I might like that color better than my cha-ching green even..

We'll need to see pics of that Della Santa too. Rolland is one of the more revered builders around these parts, as you've probably seen.

Yeah, the original seller did a good job capturing how nice the paint job looks in the photo. In person she's just as sweet. If a slick 58cm comes up though ... I probably wouldn't say no.

Is there a Della Santa thread here by any chance? Didn't know y'all had a thing for Roland here. I'm born & raised in Reno so kind of a given my first road bike had to be a DS ... also lived in NYC for years so seemed appropriate to have a Serotta as well.

[Clean39T]

Yeah, the original seller did a good job capturing how nice the paint job looks in the photo. In person she's just as sweet. If a slick 58cm comes up though ... I probably wouldn't say no.



Is there a Della Santa thread here by any chance? Didn't know y'all had a thing for Roland here. I'm born & raised in Reno so kind of a given my first road bike had to be a DS ... also lived in NYC for years so seemed appropriate to have a Serotta as well.Just post it up in the custom gallery - I don't think there's a builder spotlight for him..

There are a few active folks here who have Della Santa frames.

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[Hardlyrob]

I ordered this one in June of 1996, and it showed up in July-ish.
CS 55L 747
Here is it after an upgrade to Chorus 11 last spring - still an amazing ride 23 years later!

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1697963026&stc=1&d=1530981949

[farmallguy]

Thanks Hardlyrob, your info confirms my CSI sn- 749 to be a 1996 also. I suspected this but wasn't sure. Good to know for sure. Yours is a beauty and I also prefer a modern drivetrain on the older frames for riding. I put a Shimano 6800 on mine a couple years ago.

Jack

[Hardlyrob]

Hey Farmall guy - our CSI's may well have been painted at the same time - mine's a pearl white to red fade - with the white as the undercoat. Since your serial number is only two away from mine - 747 vs. 749, and they're both pearl white - its possible they were painted together. Either way, yours and mine were made in July 1996.
Cheers!

[farmallguy]

Hey Farmall guy - our CSI's may well have been painted at the same time - mine's a pearl white to red fade - with the white as the undercoat. Since your serial number is only two away from mine - 747 vs. 749, and they're both pearl white - its possible they were painted together. Either way, yours and mine were made in July 1996.
Cheers!

That's pretty cool! So I have a question for you, Have you found anything that works good as touch for the pearl white? I tried some of the automotive pearl whites but they are no good. Thanks

[Hardlyrob]

Farmallguy;

The best luck I've had with touch-ups for bikes has been with model paints. There's a good variety of colors, and lots of metallics, and some pearls. They are also so cheap that you can buy several to mix and match.

For whatever reason with all the miles on that frame there are very few scratches / rock dings - so I haven't looked at pearl white specifically.

[oliver1850]

I ordered this one in June of 1996, and it showed up in July-ish.
CS 55L 747
Here is it after an upgrade to Chorus 11 last spring - still an amazing ride 23 years later!




Thanks much for posting. A big help for anyone who thinks they may have a 1996 - especially because of the mid year build date, and reinforces my guess that my CSI (958) is in fact a 1997.

Wish we could get more original owners of all models to post.

[Keith A]

Nice looking CSi.
This is my second CSi and oddly enough my second custom bought used with 53.5 in the serial number. Going to swap the wheels out, but likely going to remain the same until I decide to throw the Steel fork I picked up here(thanks Keith!).
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[Hilltopperny]

Nice looking CSi.Thanks Keith! The serial number on this one is CCS53.51954 BTW

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[Black Dog]

Thanks much for posting. A big help for anyone who thinks they may have a 1996 - especially because of the mid year build date, and reinforces my guess that my CSI (958) is in fact a 1997.

Wish we could get more original owners of all models to post.

SO true. There is a thread in the catalogues section where owners can post their bike's serial numbers and year of manufacture.

I would encourage folks to add to the list for all Serotta Models.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=99078

[Monsieur Toast]

Okay, tried my best to do research on here but I couldn't come to any sort of 100% conclusion. My serial number is #1517 and it has a 25th Anniversary sticker on it ... does this mean it's a '97 for sure?

I think I found a confirmed serial #1283 from 1996, and #1828 from 2000, but nothing else 100% confirmed in-between.

Anyone have any ideas on this one? Cheers!

http://zerominuszero.net/000/bici/Serotta-25th.jpg

[Sboat]

This is my csi number, I believe it’s mid 90’s

[Neil]

Yeah, the original seller did a good job capturing how nice the paint job looks in the photo. In person she's just as sweet. If a slick 58cm comes up though ... I probably wouldn't say no.

Is there a Della Santa thread here by any chance? Didn't know y'all had a thing for Roland here. I'm born & raised in Reno so kind of a given my first road bike had to be a DS ... also lived in NYC for years so seemed appropriate to have a Serotta as well.

I'd be very happy to give your 57 a home should a 58 turn up for you.

[RetroGuy]

New to me 1995 CSI, serial no. CC 58 641 - my first (quality) lugged steel road bike - simply a work of art! :)

[Saxon]

That's a beauty! :banana::banana: Mine has a similar paint job.

[triplecrank]

Just ran across this thread looking for info on my CSI. As best as I can determine, this one is a '95. S/N: CS 58L 167. Not exactly positive since I read the thread quickly, but it appears to be one of the earliest ones listed. Given other's comments about the age of their CSI and lower S/N, I felt this one would also be a '95 also. It has the DT bosses of the earlier CSIs. But, the yellow paint color was not an option in '95 per the catalogs. Plus it also has the 25th Anniversary Sticker on the DT near the BB. My only conclusion was that it was sent back to the factory for a repaint and got the updated decals. The yellow color wasn't initially a draw for me, but it's grown on me. Serottas don't commonly pop up in my neck of the woods, so one can't be too choosy.

[CDollarsign]

I LOVE my CSi! My SN is CS 62L 663 - I think its from 1996. Paint is still amazing - will be a forever bike. Thanks Clean!

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[sailorkevin]

1997 25th Anniversary Edition
"CS 54L 316" It has a 56 top tube. "Long and Low" Recently rebuilt with carbon fork and Ultegra 11 speed group. Weighs about 19 lbs. I also have a newer Legend Ti with the same 54L (54/56) geometry. Much lighter (a tad over 17 lbs) but I like both bikes equally well. I have owned a LOT of steel bikes and in my humble opinion the CSi is right there among the best steel bikes ever made. Perfect combination of speed, balance, and comfort.

[Flinch]

My CSI, Ser# C57L268, with a nice paint color that I wish I knew the (Serotta) name of. Anyone? In my stable next to the Concours (54cm). A tad too big for me, but I put compact bars on, and that helps. Laced some SR rims, 'cause they be shiney! Ride so smooth, wish it were a 54 tho...

To help with hills n such, I swapped out the Campy Record 8 speed and put an SR crankset triple on with a 28t low ring, ditto Campy rear triple derailleur. Cassette is 13-28 Miche, so I can actually ride the hills here. 39t/25t just was a...no.
https://i.imgur.com/JHKCRg6.jpg

[2000CSI]

I'll join in: my CSi CS58.5 1818
I got it in 2000 (hence my handle) The paint had an issue and had to go back for a repaint. As an apology they custom painted the Ti stem. Apparently it was not common to paint a stem so I believe it to be fairly rare.
Pearl White (can't remember what the Serotta name was) with Sapphire Blue panels, stem and fork.
Ride is amazing but haven't taken it out in years.

[rwsaunders]

https://i.imgur.com/Kae3UWl.jpg

New to me last Summer with the help of two fellow Paceliners. SN CCS 58.5 2155…2001 CSi in big boy blue with an F1 fork, and a mix of Campag 10-speed with Record/OP wheels. TdF lugs too with a Serotta head badge…one of the smoothest riding, best handling bikes that I’ve owned.

[Flinch]

New to me 1995 CSI, serial no. CC 58 641 - my first (quality) lugged steel road bike - simply a work of art! :)

FYI: CSI serial numbers - 198 is a December 1995 model, and 272 is 1996 model, and CSI-56-808 was Jan 1997. Thus yours may actually be a 1996. My CS57L268 is very late 1995 or early 1996. Ain't they great though!?