Shameless plug--New Bedford Frame

[BumbleBeeDave]

I went down to CycleSport in NJ last week to help Kelly get some photos of several of his bikes for publicity use. He brought along his latest, back from paint by Keith Anderson and ready for build-up and delivery to a customer down there.

I'll let you judge the craftsmanship and the paint . . .

BBD

[William]

Very nice work Kelly!!! White & Red color combo is a hot one. :cool:


It screams RED HANDLEBRA!!!! :)





William

[gasman]

WOW
that's a beautiful frame and paint job. I love the lugs.
More photos please.

[spacemen3]

****ake! That's beyond cool. :cool:

[Elefantino]

The CSI lives on.

Cool.

[BumbleBeeDave]

It's the personal bike of Mike Grotz at CycleSport.

Note that, us being in NJ and all that, Kelly brought along an, uh, "friend" to help ensure the security of the bikes while we were shooting them. He looks pretty intimidating, doesn't he? ;)

BBD

[BumbleBeeDave]

This is the demo bike at CycleSport. You could walk in and buy it right off the floor . . . hint, hint! :D

BBD

[scooter01]

Great pictures BBD,
I was thinking it would be nice if BBD had a collection of pictures to share as screen savers :)

[Ti Designs]

There's a spec of dirt on the fork crown of the orange bike...

[William]

It's the personal bike of Mike Grotz at CycleSport.

Note that, us being in NJ and all that, Kelly brought along an, uh, "friend" to help ensure the security of the bikes while we were shooting them. He looks pretty intimidating, doesn't he? ;)

BBD


I wonder if this is the frame Kelly was talking about when he asked me about the orange on the Effin Cross Bike? Ver nice..me likey. :cool:



William

[BumbleBeeDave]

There's a spec of dirt on the fork crown of the orange bike...

. . . NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :eek: ;)

[Climb01742]

being the proud father of those lovely bikes, you'd imagine mr b would be smiling. :beer:

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . he's wondering why I've posted the pics here before sending him a CD!

Don't worry, Papa Kelly, I'm working on it!

BBD

[Bruce K]

I can't wait until Kelly gets a full gallery up on his website.

Of course I'm partial to his blue bike(s). :rolleyes: :D

BK

[sn69]

This is the demo bike at CycleSport. You could walk in and buy it right off the floor . . . hint, hint! :D

BBD

I'm glad I don't live near them. MUST NOT DO AN INTERNET SEARCH....

Scott

[Acotts]

When I talked to Kelly at NAHBS he mentioned that he wanted to make a run of those red bikes (semi-custom kind of thing) for a more economical price.

I am not sure whatever came of that.

The red bike was so striking in real life. Of all the bikes at NAHBS, I kept comming back to it.

Something about the fact that it was no nonesense, not too light, not heavy, not top of the line. Just an all business ultegra-WCS build with super sexy "RACE ME!" paintjob.

I love it. It makes the dreambike list.

[jbrainin]

This is the demo bike at CycleSport. You could walk in and buy it right off the floor . . . hint, hint! :D

BBD

What size is the frame? (Please God, don't let it be a 54 cm!)

[tsarpepe]

I want the bike, the car behind the bike, and the camera in front of it. How much for the lot?

[Acotts]

What size is the frame? (Please God, don't let it be a 54 cm!)

If its the one from NAHBS its a 56 x56.

[Steevo]

Great looking bikes and great photos.

Dave, its time to produce and sell the 2010 BBD Bike Porn calendar.

[johnnymossville]

Schwing!!!!!!


Oh I just love those bikes. Congrats to whoever owns them!

[Ahneida Ride]

It screams RED HANDLEBRA!!!! :)

William

White leather and Red stitch HB ...

Should be done by now.

[johnnymossville]

White leather and Red stitch HB ...

Should be done by now.

You say that so nonchalantly. Why I outta!,... haha. :beer:

White leather with red stitching sounds great. I hope we get to see final pics.

[Pete Serotta]

Call Mike Grotz at Cyclesport 201-391=5269 or mike@cyclesportonline.com. They are available and while they are custom sized to you, they have a standard lug, tubes, and a carbon fork. They ride well for I have tried the demo. PETE :)


When I talked to Kelly at NAHBS he mentioned that he wanted to make a run of those red bikes (semi-custom kind of thing) for a more economical price.

I am not sure whatever came of that.

The red bike was so striking in real life. Of all the bikes at NAHBS, I kept comming back to it.

Something about the fact that it was no nonesense, not too light, not heavy, not top of the line. Just an all business ultegra-WCS build with super sexy "RACE ME!" paintjob.

I love it. It makes the dreambike list.

[Peter P.]

****ake! That's beyond cool. :cool:

Uh, when I look at this picture I don't think "****ake"; I think, "phallus"-sorry.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=60256&stc=1

That frame is forever scarred...

Otherwise, I think the color schemes are great; I like the contemporary lettering, and the batch built frames ala Speedvagen would be a great idea. Just remove the "sex"y the lugs...

[zray67]

There's a spec of dirt on the fork crown of the orange bike...

I noticed that too. Let us take better care of our bikes!

[Acotts]

I think that frame was origionally sposed to go to an lbs local to me. I'm glad it didn't. I don't have will power.

Smiley said he would personally fit me.

[Point Grey]

Awesome! I now know what my next frame is going to be!!!

[Smiley]

Awesome! I now know what my next frame is going to be!!!


Were coming out for the winter olympics Andrew :)

[Point Grey]

Were coming out for the winter olympics Andrew :)

Great!!
I am sure Pete will not mind sharing the couch...

[Ti Designs]

I noticed that too. Let us take better care of our bikes!


No, my comment about the dirt was a compliment - the bike may have seen some mileage. I look at these frames with their hand carved lugs and perfect paint jobs and it does nothing for me. I've been in the bike business going on 24 years now, had Peter Mooney build me 6 custom frames. Now when a new frame comes in I could care less. Bikes come to life when you ride them, otherwise it's functional are without the function. I happen to think the shape of a toilet is artistic, but mine still functions if you jiggle the handle.

I'm not going to argue that the work isn't art, but if ever you don't ride because of the bike you own, it's too much art and too little bike.

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . and they are naturally going to want to keep it looking nice. So of course it's clean. The orange one is Mike's personal bike and if you take a look at his legs when you meet him you'd know the bike IS ridden--a lot. He had obviously cleaned it up for the photo shoot.

BBD

No, my comment about the dirt was a compliment - the bike may have seen some mileage. I look at these frames with their hand carved lugs and perfect paint jobs and it does nothing for me. I've been in the bike business going on 24 years now, had Peter Mooney build me 6 custom frames. Now when a new frame comes in I could care less. Bikes come to life when you ride them, otherwise it's functional are without the function. I happen to think the shape of a toilet is artistic, but mine still functions if you jiggle the handle.

I'm not going to argue that the work isn't art, but if ever you don't ride because of the bike you own, it's too much art and too little bike.

[Bruce K]

Peter P

Take a look at the pictures of the fork crown of my blue Bedford.

The lug cuts are more of a "reverse spade" (and the reverse image of the crown cuts) than anything phallic.

But I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.

BK

[Ti Designs]

The orange one is Mike's personal bike and if you take a look at his legs when you meet him you'd know the bike IS ridden--a lot. He had obviously cleaned it up for the photo shoot.

Define "a lot". There's a difference between a bike that sees lots of mileage and is cleaned up and what I'm seeing in those pictures. I clean my bike at least once a year, strip it down to the frame and toss the parts into the parts clearner. It looks better, but new looking only happens once. Riding a bike involves scuff marks and cable rub and scratches and chips.

Perhaps we have a different definition of "a lot". I know a guy who says he rides his cross bike a lot, yet it still has the original tires and there's still flashing on them - maybe he doesn't touch the ground when he rides??? Then there's the group of fixed gear guys I saw in Weston center at the coffee stop. Not a spec of dust on any of their bikes, and it was a wet day. They too said they rode a lot, but when they were done with their coffee, one of them carried their bike to their SUV and placed it inside with the greatest of care.

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . but I imagine that, owning a bike shop like he does, he probably does have more than one bike . . . ?

Just because a bike is clean and well cared for doesn't mean it isn't ridden a lot.

BBD

[zray67]

. . .
Just because a bike is clean and well cared for doesn't mean it isn't ridden a lot.

BBD


I agree. I don't own a TV. And, sometimes for what ever reason, I'll put a bike in the stand, turn on the radio to a classical music station and clean the bike. The process relaxes me and gives me a feeling of accomplishment.

Simple minds seek simple joys.

[Ti Designs]

Just because a bike is clean and well cared for doesn't mean it isn't ridden a lot.


OK, define what you mean by "a lot", and then find me a bike in show condition that's been ridden that much without being repainted and having all it's components replaced. Rims show brake marks, cranks get scuffed, frames get scratches and chips - someone is going to have to explain how that doesn't happen on some bikes.

[jlwdm]

BBD,

Don't waste your time. You know Ti Designs. There is only one answer and it is his answer - his common theme.

He seems to think he is the only person on the forum who rides enough. I have gone through this on PMs with him before. I rode my most miles in a month ever in March and then rode 40% more than that in May (too much) but that does not satisfy Ti Designs.

I let the Texas heat get to me a little this summer and my mileage slipped but I am fighting back this week with both rides before work and night rides daily. I am heading out for my morning ride now.

Everybody enjoy riding how ever many miles you get a chance to get in and it is okay to keep your bike looking great at the same time. My does need a wash - a few sprinklers getting the roads wet at night.

Jeff

[BumbleBeeDave]

I have no doubt the bike is ridden. I also have no doubt Mike G. rides a lot. There was some dirt around the BB, which I wiped off as best I could for the photos.

Kelly has only been building bikes under his own label for a year. Given the status his bikes enjoy among some as "collector" bikes, and given that nobody has even owned a "Bedford Custom" longer than a year, it's no surprise to me that most of his bikes are still going to be in good shape. I know that if I owned one, I'd make damn sure to take good care of it and only ride it when the weather is nice and roads dry. If it's crappy outside I'm going to take my rain (i.e., cross) bike out.

Having a filthy, dirty bike, is not a badge of honor to me. It just means you ride it a lot and clean it a little. Nothing wrong with that. It's just not my style, though. I have had my Serotta for 8 years and given my employment situation right now I'm probably not going to be able to afford another one for a looooong time. So I take real good care of it. I would do the same if I had a Bedford Custom.

BBD

[Gothard]

OK, define what you mean by "a lot", and then find me a bike in show condition that's been ridden that much without being repainted and having all it's components replaced. Rims show brake marks, cranks get scuffed, frames get scratches and chips - someone is going to have to explain how that doesn't happen on some bikes.

You need to take better care of your stuff.









:p

[johnnymossville]

Any bike with some big miles in all weather conditions will show some aging no matter how much you take care of it. Nothing wrong with that.

Though I agree with BBDave that it's probably best to maintain it the best you can both mechanically and cosmetically. That said, in the club I regularly ride with, two of the fastest guys ride pretty crusty looking bikes. Just an observation, don't know if it means anything. :)

My 1993 Harley for example, at stops for gas many casual onlookers tend to see it as brand new, even though it's got more than it's fair share of little scuffs here and there and over 50k miles in all weather conditions. I try to keep it nice since I know my wife probably won't let me ever have another one!

[Steevo]

I saw that orange Bedford in Cyclesport late winter / early spring pretty soon after arrival. Its a relatively new bike. Its also used as a "display" model by Cyclesport to help sell Bedfords, and is therefore very well maintained. I can say from personal experience that the annual tune up at Cyclesport restores my 2003 bike to "almost-new" condition each spring. One can be sure that the orange Bedford has been put to good use this season. What's "a lot" to some, may not be to others. So what. What's the big effin' deal?

[merlinmurph]

Define "a lot".

Reminds me of a small blunder I made around 1990, a few years after I started riding regularly again. I was in a cycling forum (a dial-up BBS), and made a comment that I rode "a lot". I really meant "often", but said "a lot", not really recognizing the difference.
Someone responded and asked how much I rode, and I answered 3000+ miles/year.
He responded with "Oh, I think of 'a lot' as at least 10K/year" - and he was right, considering the audience of the forum.

Since then, I have never said I ride 'a lot'. I ride 'regularly'. ;)

Murph (and still doing 3K+/year)

[Acotts]

The red bike really messes with my head.

Fancy cars never really did it to me, but I imagine it is what my pops felt like before he ordered his hot red stingray back in the 70's.

I need a red bike. I need it to look just like that.

[FL_MarkD]

That red looks close to the color on my 1998 Atlanta. Must be why I like that Bedford so much. :)

Beautiful bikes, maybe someday. I have another Serotta that needs my attention right now .....


Mark

[Ti Designs]

He seems to think he is the only person on the forum who rides enough. I have gone through this on PMs with him before. I rode my most miles in a month ever in March and then rode 40% more than that in May (too much) but that does not satisfy Ti Designs.


It's mostly the frustration talking. I'm still fit enough to race as a 2, have hit 180 miles in a day and still haven't found my limits, and it's damn hard to get people to do the crazy things I want to do. I started thinking I would be better off if I were out of shape and 40 pounds overweight, but then I had a better idea that everybody would like - I'll tow the refrigerated beer trailer! That'll slow me right down.

My point wasn't about putting in enough miles, it was 1) the bike shouldn't hold you back. If you're worried about the paint job, get a second bike. And 2) if you ride a bike, it shows. I remember getting my first custom Peter Mooney, I took the thing home, built it up, wiped off the finger prints. I was as guilty about obsessing over a bike as anyone here. That first scratch hurt, after that it was time to ride the bike.

[rwsaunders]

I agree. I don't own a TV. And, sometimes for what ever reason, I'll put a bike in the stand, turn on the radio to a classical music station and clean the bike. The process relaxes me and gives me a feeling of accomplishment.

Simple minds seek simple joys.

I washed my 8 year old bike and my 9 year old car this evening and I also find it to be relaxing. Maybe we should start a dirty bike thread....

[K Bedford]

Thanks guy's for all the positive comments.
No matter how fancy or artsy any frame I build is, I build it with the hope and intent that it will get the s**t ridden out of it.
I make no compromises in performance or longevity of my frames for the sake of pretty.
Make no mistake, normal wear and tear can be a badge of honor and an indicator the the owner likes it enough to spend some real time on it but it just doesn't make any sense for a good bike to be filthy all the time.
Not taking a few minutes every now and then at least wipe you bike down doesn't prove that you're hard core but does suggest a few other things.
KB

[Smiley]

I build it with the hope and intent that it will get the s**t ridden out of it.
I make no compromises in performance or longevity of my frames for the sake of pretty.
KB


Thanks Kelly doing just that on Street Fixee kb0002 for sure. Rides very sweeeet too in case your wondering :banana: