Which new SEROTTA would you buy... [Archive]

Pete Serotta

05-10-2009, 03:27 PM

Holding a contest to see what frames I can get BEN to build and "YOU" to buy!!!

Tell me which.!!! :confused: :confused:

IF you say CSI then write a check for $500(deposit) and send to SEROTTA DAVE, when we get 10 orders we will start the process. :) :)

false_Aest

05-10-2009, 03:38 PM

Hors Categorie . . . DUH

acorn_user

05-10-2009, 04:00 PM

I wanted one of the Heritage Road frames, but they got discontinued before I could move. Will probably end up with a Coppi instead.

Marcusaurelius

05-10-2009, 04:25 PM

Hmm, that's a tough one but I think I would go with CDA, the all steel CDA.

Elefantino

05-10-2009, 04:30 PM

The Serotta Sachs, but only if the wait time is substantially less.

false_Aest

05-10-2009, 04:48 PM

The Serotta Sachs, but only if the wait time is substantially less.

Would that come with a CTS training program too?

saab2000

05-10-2009, 05:28 PM

I'd get a Coeur d'Acier built to perfect some of the 'imperfections' of my Colorado III. I am delicate with the word imperfections because this bike was not built for me. It was a custom for someone else and comes very close to being what I would get. But this was built for a race team and is a race bike. I like that very much. It handles very nicely.

I'd love to have the stiffness, ride and handling of this bike in one which had a few tweaks in terms of size and setback.

Otherwise, it's just about perfect. But it could be more perfect.

I'd go with 8cm BB drop instead of 7. I'd go with an F3 fork. I'd have a pump peg. I'd go with a 57 top tube instead of 58. I'd probably go with a slightly shorter seat tube. I'd go with a 72.5�, or even 72� seat angle. All left up to the designer to sort out the details. But those are a few things on my wish list for this bike. I got such an absurdly good deal on it that I have no right to complain. But if I were buying a new Serotta today, it'd be an 'improved' version of this bike.

Welded steel. It's my thing.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3584/3519399621_d1674c35ba_b.jpg

CNY rider

05-10-2009, 05:29 PM

Go check out the Ti all-rounder I posted in the images gallery.
If you want to be like Pete and have just one ;) bicycle that would be the one.

Smiley

05-10-2009, 05:31 PM

HSG Carbone in my size, that means CUSTOM but add a paint job please :)

scottcw2

05-10-2009, 05:40 PM

CSI with 3D vertical drops in stock 58.

I also like saab2000's ideas, but I need a 57.5-58 TT. Heck, I will volunteer to take his bike if he gets his replacement.

Dekonick

05-10-2009, 06:03 PM

You have to ask?

Hors Categorie with room for 28 or larger tires and fenders etc...

perhaps a CSI...

slugbottle

05-10-2009, 06:09 PM

Would that CSi come with a steel fork by any chance?

Interesting that one of the rarest seen on eBay or the Forum anymore is the Rapid Tour (CRT). GREAT bike.

Lifelover

05-10-2009, 06:29 PM

Legend. Probably full Ti.

I would love it in the Sierra Nevada team colors but would most likely go with bare Ti since that would stand the test of time.

Not really picky or sure about fit. 59 X 57.5 maybe. Designed to only have 1 inch of drop and to handle my 250 lbs.

Something along these lines will be my next bike. Unfortunately for me and Ben, it will have to be used.

rnhood

05-10-2009, 07:47 PM

I would say something a bit unique and suitably affordable - maybe an aluminum Serotta for instance. It would be interesting to to see what Ben could concoct with modern aluminum alloys. But please, no integrated seat post.

cmg

05-10-2009, 07:56 PM

CSI or a CDA with a 73.5-74 STA angle and a short top tube 52cm, 8 cm of drop would be cool. Love the BB stiffness of the one i have.

thwart

05-10-2009, 08:08 PM

The Coeur d'Acier I've been putting miles on the past few weeks is a mighty impressive piece of work...

Comes as close as anything I've ridden in terms of silky smooth rock-hard stiffness.

That'd be my choice.

znfdl

05-10-2009, 08:09 PM

Hors Categorie with room for 28 or larger tires and fenders etc...

+1, but with room for 25mm tires

Onno

05-10-2009, 08:22 PM

I just bought a Fierte IT for my wife for our 25th anniversary! :beer: :beer: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Her bike will be lighter and spiffier than my Concours, and it will have one more cog in the back. The sad thing is that she probably won't appreciate this nearly as much as I will. In the long run, though, it may allow me to get a new Fierte or HSG carbon or Ottrot I've been lusting after, as soon as she realizes how generous I am, and how much I too am in need of a gear upgrade!

Onno

05-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Comes as close as anything I've ridden in terms of silky smooth rock-hard stiffness.

That's what she said. Sorry. Couldn't resist.

14max

05-10-2009, 08:34 PM

*****

gman

05-10-2009, 08:41 PM

CSI 59x59, steel fork.
Orange, white logos with black outline.

How long will it take?

93legendti

05-10-2009, 08:51 PM

Steel Hors Cat

Skrawny

05-10-2009, 08:59 PM

ottrott SE. Hands down.

Unpredictable

05-10-2009, 09:02 PM

I would like to see the return of a full alloy frame as well.

rdparadise

05-10-2009, 09:22 PM

Would be my pick. I'd go for the F3 fork 43cm in a 6.5. I wouldn't mind the TdF lugs too.

Just sayin.

Bob

johnnymossville

05-10-2009, 09:46 PM

CSI.

Liberace

05-10-2009, 10:01 PM

Where do I send my payment for a CSI?

bagochips3

05-10-2009, 10:27 PM

This one (note the 33mm tires) without the S&S couplers and with an aluminum steer tube on the fork:

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/pro-bike-andy-hampstens-cycles-strada-bianca-ti-16577

jlwdm

05-10-2009, 11:32 PM

bagochips3:

Did you read the original post?

Jeff

dekindy

05-10-2009, 11:48 PM

ottrott SE. Hands down.

+1. That is Ben Serotta's favorite so it should be good enough for anybody. Bare titanium Legend is my preference.

Whatever you get go road tubeless for the smoothest combination of frame and wheels.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=57087

slowgoing

05-11-2009, 12:11 AM

Legend Ti in matte/polish. No carbon on it anywhere.

Bought a CSI on the last run, and climb's Hors, otherwise I might have chosen one of those.

rspecker

05-11-2009, 12:51 AM

HSG Custom if it qualifies for the Alps ride!

or maybe a CSI

totally_fixxate

05-11-2009, 01:45 AM

Fixedgear(non-singolo) or Hors Categorie

fjaws

05-11-2009, 02:30 AM

IF you say CSI then write a check for $500 and send to SEROTTA DAVE, when we get 10 orders we will start the process. :) :)

$500 for a new CSI.....I'll take 2 please! :D Obviously this is just the deposit, what would the full price be?

Climb01742

05-11-2009, 04:16 AM

HSG Carbone in my size, that means CUSTOM but add a paint job please :)

+1
or a meivici @ half price.
$8k is too big of a leap of faith that they_might_get it right. not meant to be harsh, just the truth. any custom is a crap shoot. 8 large is way too big of a roll of the dice.

endosch2

05-11-2009, 07:23 AM

I am thinking Classique GTL too. Can you please photograph one when you make one? Built up would be best.

stephenyi

05-11-2009, 08:46 AM

hors categorie cross - i'll take a size 58. thanks.

EDS

05-11-2009, 08:50 AM

HSG Carbon.

Spicoli

05-11-2009, 10:43 AM

The only bike I would ever love to play with and see if it could be made, is an 1100-1200gram CDA frame? or close to that....

I'd give up some ride qaulity to have a weight weenie steel bike, that would be cool to try as a race rig.

majl

05-11-2009, 11:08 AM

hors categorie cross - i'll take a size 58. thanks.
+1, but make mine a 56!

Tobias

05-11-2009, 11:15 AM

Holding a contest to see what frames I can get BEN to build and "YOU" to buy!!!

Tell me which.!!! :confused: :confused: Past, present, or future? :confused:

Past: Trust Serotta has good reason why out of production.
Present: You wouldn�t be asking if readably available.
Future: You have my attention, what do you have in mind?

djg

05-11-2009, 11:29 AM

Pete

When you helped organize the Heritage deal this past fall/winter I nabbed a GP Suisse Ti frame, which I'll race this coming cross season. Excellent deal.

At the moment . . . maybe nothing. In addition to the GP Suisse, I have the HSG Ti for road and an older CSi that I've converted to a fixed gear road bike, although it would still make a fine geared road bike.

Which bikes are most interesting to me? In road, I suppose I'd say HSG or HSG custom, then legend, then CDA. Depending on purpose, for road or cross, the Classique frames might be pretty interesting.

But as I said, at the moment, I'm set.

DonH

05-11-2009, 11:34 AM

I would love a CSi with a steel fork!
A CDA would suit me very nicely also though.

jlwdm

05-11-2009, 12:24 PM

Lets stop all this nonsense about people wanting new CSIs and Serotta building more CSIs. None of you really wants a CSI - just remember that.

By the way I did buy Kelly Bedford's CSI which was the last one made, and I want it to continue to be the last one made!

Jeff

zap

05-11-2009, 02:09 PM

Take the HSG Carbon and add this feature, add this other feature and tweak (larger) the tubing dims some.

Oh, I almost forgot, one more feature. BB30.

Then you will have a zapanache(tm) frameset that would build up to an awesome bike.

:) has a pretty good idea of what I'm looking for.

victork

05-11-2009, 02:39 PM

I will buy another one some day. Thanks Ben!

tuscanyswe

05-11-2009, 04:55 PM

Straight seatstays for a guy on a budget with no more than 6degree sloping tt, thank you very much. I think this should be a popular demand but its missing in the lineup, or am i wrong?

Edit: i guess the cda with steelstays kinda fit that description. Hmm i may have to get me one of these.

Ti Designs

05-11-2009, 07:31 PM

A La Corsa. Sewer pipe for a down tube, top tube sloped the wrong way, super steep, super stiff, kinda heavy, red decals on the right side, blue on the left...

Pete Serotta

05-12-2009, 07:01 AM

Send me an email and I will get you one.....PETE

Straight seatstays for a guy on a budget with no more than 6degree sloping tt, thank you very much. I think this should be a popular demand but its missing in the lineup, or am i wrong?

Edit: i guess the cda with steelstays kinda fit that description. Hmm i may have to get me one of these.

97CSI

05-12-2009, 12:17 PM

IF you say CSI then write a check for $500(deposit) and send to SEROTTA DAVE, when we get 10 orders we will start the process. :) :)Would that be with a lugged steel fork with the traditional Serotta sloping crown? If so, what is the final $$ for one?

I 'need' an Ottrott or Mevici with traditional geometry.

Nathanrtaylor

05-12-2009, 12:59 PM

Classique CX set up as an all-rounder for me, but I need to wait a while before I drop the "getting another bike" bomb on the wife after splurging on my CDA.

Charles M

05-12-2009, 01:04 PM

This one's easy...

I would buy exactly this, built exactly this way.

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/charles/serottascreenSAMPLE.jpg

Pete Serotta

05-12-2009, 01:31 PM

Even better than RED :)

This one's easy...

I would buy exactly this, built exactly this way.

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/charles/serottascreenSAMPLE.jpg

woolly

05-12-2009, 01:44 PM

If I were shopping for something to replace my primary ride, I'd have to take a serious look at the CDA GS. I'd want the steel rear end, so $700 to upgrade the fork wouldn't be worth it (to me). But for the money, that GS looks pretty sweet.

That said, I still don't understand where Serotta is coming from with the SE/GS distinctions when it comes to paint. I can see a modest upcharge for something like candy, pearl, or some fancier metallic paints, but no option for just solid black or white on the GS? That's silly.

Pete Serotta

05-12-2009, 03:13 PM

If someone is ready to order and this is all that is stopping them, please get me involved. Between Steve, Dave, and I we will make it happen!!!!

If I were shopping for something to replace my primary ride, I'd have to take a serious look at the CDA GS. I'd want the steel rear end, so $700 to upgrade the fork wouldn't be worth it (to me). But for the money, that GS looks pretty sweet.

That said, I still don't understand where Serotta is coming from with the SE/GS distinctions when it comes to paint. I can see a modest upcharge for something like candy, pearl, or some fancier metallic paints, but no option for just solid black or white on the GS? That's silly.

Avispa

05-12-2009, 06:39 PM

Classic legend without ST stays!

Oh, did I say a L E G E N D ! ! ! !

One of the greatest bikes ever built, period!

..A..

Tyler Evans

05-12-2009, 07:00 PM

That cactus looks fake. Is that a backdrop in the Serotta photo studio?

totally_fixxate

05-12-2009, 07:22 PM

I can see a modest upcharge for something like candy, pearl, or some fancier metallic paints, but no option for just solid black or white on the GS?
That's silly.

That was the deal breaker on the Singolo for me in the Heritage group buy.

Spud

05-12-2009, 09:24 PM

Classic legend without ST stays!

Oh, did I say a L E G E N D ! ! ! !

One of the greatest bikes bikes ever built, period!

..A..

yeh, maybe blue yellow and white. Hmm

Avispa

05-12-2009, 10:12 PM

yeh, maybe blue yellow and white. Hmm

Well... maybe any Serotta that makes helps me do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z19zFlPah-o

..A..

;)

Dekonick

05-12-2009, 10:25 PM

+1, but make mine a 56!

+1

KeithNYC

05-12-2009, 10:40 PM

woolly

05-13-2009, 09:26 AM

According to the Paint Program on this site you can get a CDA GS in Onyx or Simply White. Plus choice of decals.
:bike:

Once you're all the way in, yes it does. But the initial panel shows 8 colors which also match the GS collection shown on the main CDA page under "paint & finish options". So it really looks like the intent is for GS to be limited to these 8.

Now, I also understand that Pete can help grease the skids here - I think that's a wonderful service & benefit for Serotta. But I also think that in this case it should not be necessary for him to do so.

deechee

05-13-2009, 10:45 AM

a relatively "cheap" (alu?) tri frame, along the lines of the singolo/heritage line based on Dan Empfield's tri geometries (http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/07geometries.html) .

Aero tubing or not, I think the CXII is a bit pricey for the abuse the frame will have to endure vs. a roadie's life. Don't get me wrong, I love my CIII and hope I will love the CXII I picked up used, but I can focus purely on racing with my 500$ cervelo whereas I may hesitate to ride the CXII in the rain, or packing it in a bike box etc.

norman neville

05-13-2009, 10:50 AM

that would be cool. keep it (somewhat) reasonable and i'm in.

otherwise it's a legend ti custom for me, next year, maybe.

Pete Serotta

05-13-2009, 11:00 AM

Many a good idea and I will talk to BEN over the next few weeks..

We want your business (new and return) and anything your dealer, the team, or I can do to win it is our objective. That is why I say if a color or something else can be modified I will try to make it happen,

Some mentioned SINGOLO and those were all STOCK and pre painted - so there was not much latitude on different colors. In regard to CDA that is custom to the buyer and I have a better chance, along with your dealer, in convincing the team that "one exception" is a "favor" we need (yes I have been known to offer beer and wine as a deal breaker.....)