What's a good alloy tubular rim?

[petitelilpettit]

Hey everyone. I'm wanting to build a nice set of handbuilt tubular wheels for crit racing, as well as training. I've got a couple of pairs of handbuilt wheels from my shop, and I'm looking to rebuild one set onto some alloy tubular rims.

I see a lot of people go for the older rims such as Mavic GEL 330's, GP4's and the like. Are these alloy tubular rims that good of a deal over something such as the modern day Mavic Reflex or the Velocity Escape?

Thoughts? Comments?

Pettit

Also, what's a good all-around tubular tire that is durable, yet good enough to race on? Thinking something along the lines of the Vittoria Rally.

[sspielman]

How many spokes and what is your weight?

[csm]

I've had good luck with the Continental Sprinter.

[petitelilpettit]

How many spokes and what is your weight?

Got some 32 hole Campy Record hubs.

I'm hovering around the 175lb range, which isn't too bad on my 6'3"ish frame. I'm a little tough on my equipment, as well.

Primary use would be crit racing, but also would like it for nice training rides.

[old_school]

ambrosio nemesis

[Climb01742]

ambrosio nemesis

+1
the jerk is building me a set and he raves about 'em.

[thwart]

11.4 is the guru here...

Search his posts on the topic, or wait for him to wade in and give his opinion.
Always worth reading.

[paczki]

+1
the jerk is building me a set and he raves about 'em.

+1 I've got an Ambrosio/Phil Wood fixie set with Conti Competitions -- my favorite wheels. Got them from 11.4.

[fiamme red]

11.4 is the guru here...

Search his posts on the topic, or wait for him to wade in and give his opinion.
Always worth reading.Here are some posts by 11.4:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=118703&postcount=2

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=122214&postcount=10

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=206165&postcount=3

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=400640&postcount=10

[petitelilpettit]

Here are some posts by 11.4:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=118703&postcount=2

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=122214&postcount=10

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=206165&postcount=3

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=400640&postcount=10

Thanks, fiamme!