Can I adapt any road shoe to take toeclips

[amator]

.. Can i remove the look cleats and buy a screw on adapter sole so I can ride my normal MK pedals and toe clips?

I am looking at the adistar super pro and they look very old school period correct.
alternatively, can anyone suggest a good shoe for toe clip/half toe clips pedals.
I'm not keen on bulky mTB shoes...

[dancinkozmo]

http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

[victoryfactory]

Most modern shoes won't work well with toe clips because they are designed
with bulky velcro top straps, etc which get caught in the clips.

Good MTB shoes can be very light, you could also go with a "touring" shoe
like the Shimano RT 80 which claims to be "walkable"

IMO, toe clips are a painful crappy technology that belongs in a museum,
not on the road. They are harder to get in and out of BY FAR than modern
pedals, add hot spots top and bottom, scrape the road, are not 2 side entry
and are ultimately more dangerous than clip in pedals. Good riddance!
Don't go there

VF

[torquer]

http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html
I've added that link to my favorites, in case I ever do a full-on restoration project involving toe clips/straps/cleats, so thanks.

However, the illustration showing the blue plastic cleats on WHITE shoes is SO wrong!

[fiamme red]

IMO, toe clips are a painful crappy technology that belongs in a museum, not on the road. They are harder to get in and out of BY FAR than modern pedals, add hot spots top and bottom, scrape the road, are not 2 side entry and are ultimately more dangerous than clip in pedals. Good riddance! Don't go there

VFI disagree with you on all points. Well, I concede that toe clips are one-sided, but so are all the clipless pedals I've used.

I do most of my riding with toe clips (except when riding on flat pedals with no retention). I ride my bike for transportation mainly, and toe clips allow me to use sneakers, dress shoes, hiking boots, whatever. As for long-distance, I've never had clipless shoes that weren't very painful after 150-200 miles, whereas I've finished 600km brevets using toe clips and sneakers with no foot pain at all.

And I greatly prefer toe clips when riding in heavy traffic. I can start off with my left foot on the other side of the pedal, then flip it over when I'm rolling: no need to clip in right away for fear of my foot slipping off.

[amator]

I was looking more at half cleats...

http://www.velo-orange.com/alehalfclips.html

Most modern shoes won't work well with toe clips because they are designed
with bulky velcro top straps, etc which get caught in the clips.

Good MTB shoes can be very light, you could also go with a "touring" shoe
like the Shimano RT 80 which claims to be "walkable"

IMO, toe clips are a painful crappy technology that belongs in a museum,
not on the road. They are harder to get in and out of BY FAR than modern
pedals, add hot spots top and bottom, scrape the road, are not 2 side entry
and are ultimately more dangerous than clip in pedals. Good riddance!
Don't go there

VF

[alancw3]

up until five years ago i only used pedals with toe clips and no cleats on shoes. no wonder my toes would get so sore after a very long ride. those clips seem like a great idea.

[amator]

I disagree with you on all points. Well, I concede that toe clips are one-sided, but so are all the clipless pedals I've used.

I do most of my riding with toe clips (except when riding on flat pedals with no retention). I ride my bike for transportation mainly, and toe clips allow me to use sneakers, dress shoes, hiking boots, whatever. As for long-distance, I've never had clipless shoes that weren't very painful after 150-200 miles, whereas I've finished 600km brevets using toe clips and sneakers with no foot pain at all.

And I greatly prefer toe clips when riding in heavy traffic. I can start off with my left foot on the other side of the pedal, then flip it over when I'm rolling: no need to clip in right away for fear of my foot slipping off.

thats the similar convienience n safety consideration Ive found in city riding
especially when ive seen a car nudge a rider who started off from a dead stop with his right foot cleated and the split second when he tried to cleat in his left (the driver anticipated a continous foward motion from the rider i guess?)


Whilst these dont offer the same power delivery as strapped in clips, they are even safer:
http://www.velo-orange.com/alehalfclips.html

There is a plastic MTB version which doesnt scuff (in case you wear work shoes)

[amator]

http://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

quite possibly :beer:
Not sure whether the pedal edges need to be slotted into the groove of the cleats to be effective... if so, they might end up becoming more troublesome.

I intend to use toe clips for commuting and instead of meddling with pedals each time i want to go for a weekend long ride, i was thinking of using my own Sidi/ diadora road shoes which have a stiff sole.

[zmudshark]

Not cheap, though:
http://www.vintagevelos.com/SHOE-vittoria1.html

http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_12&products_id=17

[amator]

Not cheap, though:
http://www.vintagevelos.com/SHOE-vittoria1.html

http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_12&products_id=17

Ive been looking at the maressi(dromarti), its v attractive, price a bit prohibitive..

[victoryfactory]

I disagree with you on all points.

No problem

VF

[Ken Robb]

another possibilty: Power Grips. These are straps that mount diagonally across flat pedals and are adjusted so you can slide your foot into the loop on an angle and have the strap snug when you point your foot straight ahead. They are more comfy and easier in and out than clips and straps and if you are starting from a tricky stopping place you can just stand on the until you are under way and have time and momentum to slip into the loop. Because they are just as flexible as a stiff fabric standing on them is easy and if the straps hangs down it won't scrape on the pavement either.

I tried them on a demo bike using MKS Touring Pedals at Rivendell World Headquarters and they worked as advertised. They only cost about $20 so it doesn't cost much to try a pair.

[paulandmonster]

just sitting around with cleats i think they are a 44 or 45

[Ablaut]

I was looking more at half cleats...

http://www.velo-orange.com/alehalfclips.html

I would rather use the MKS half clips, you can lock in better than with those ALE ones: http://www.velo-orange.com/mkshalfclip.html

I highly suggest these for city riding. I use them in Chicago traffic and haven't been disappointed. Same as fiamme, I don't have to worry about clipping in right away, and I can really pull out of them instinctively in close call situations.

[dancinkozmo]

Not cheap, though:
http://www.vintagevelos.com/SHOE-vittoria1.html

http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10_12&products_id=17

those vittoria shoes are pretty sweet...limited sizes though :crap:

[11.4]

You just want a way to use a traditional pedal with modern road shoes? No problem.

First option: MKS makes a cleat to fit their RX-1 pedals (and ultimately all their pedals when they catch up with the modified cage cutout pattern). These fit any 3-hole Look-pattern shoe and have a nice slot to hold the pedal.

Second option: Yoshida makes a number of cleats in different colors that fit the same hole pattern. The slot is shallower which you might or might not be comfortable with.

Third option: Shimano PD-64 cleats, no longer in production but often available on eBay and available from Euro-Asia Imports via your local shop. These are the most expensive and designed for the Shimano PD-7400 pedals but work on just about all pedals. I'd consider these the last choice.

Plus several cleats fit the two holes at the rear of the Look 3-hole pattern -- the late Duegi and Pavarin plastic cleats come to mind, as do at least one version of the Adidas ones.

As for using these shoes with clips and straps, I don't have any problems using them. The forefoot of most shoes isn't that bulky -- just stay away from Sidi Ergo-2's and the like. You an always bend a toe clip up slightly so it doesn't dig into an upper shoe strap.

[amator]

I would rather use the MKS half clips, you can lock in better than with those ALE ones: http://www.velo-orange.com/mkshalfclip.html

I highly suggest these for city riding. I use them in Chicago traffic and haven't been disappointed. Same as fiamme, I don't have to worry about clipping in right away, and I can really pull out of them instinctively in close call situations.

....have tried neither but am using the ZEFAL MTB plastic half cleats which are longer than both the ALE and MKS.
I have size 45.5/ 46 feet which might make the positioning on he MKS wrong?

Cant really judge where the optimum contact patch should be on regular pedals as opposed to my regular look keos.

[dancinkozmo]

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=NP03812

not too bad me thinks !
might work well with some of those jellow jersey adapter cleats...

[amator]

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=NP03812

not too bad me thinks !
might work well with some of those jellow jersey adapter cleats...

Cool and decent price...

I'm trying to figure where the contact point will be with cleats on (the depression or front and rear edges?), and more importantly will this be superior to say a stiff sole MTB shoe in offering the Pulling upward motion ;similar to that of SPD.. me thinks this is just a vanity issue on my part :rolleyes: