Warm windproof, waterprod gloves?

[roguedog]

Mainly for commutes and the occasional really cold or wet morning rides.

Last year I just wore a liner glove under my commuter cycling gloves but that didn't work so great for the really cold or wet. I need to replace my commuting gloves now anyway since they're getting holey... Just wondering what you folks recommend.

And I *probably* don't need Chicago or Buffalo, NYC level of warmth since I'm on the west coast (Bay Area). Probably just something with good wind and water protection would be fine?

I've been looking at the Seal Skinz gloves. They look really nice.

thanks!

[konstantkarma]

I use neoprene gloves, found in the sporting goods department of Wal Mart, or a similar store. They are pretty inexpensive and really durable.