Serotta Ottrott review up on Pez Cycling

[bikedadjc]

Serotta Ottrott review up on the Pez cycling news page.................

[bostondrunk]

Where? Can;t see it on their page..

[drbob]

The review is not yet posted.

[bikedadjc]

:)

[jberk]

it's back again. . .

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=2698

[Ken Lehner]

A couple of questions about this review:

1) Is this correct: "The little bearing in the drop out that attaches to the Reynolds ST Carbon Seat stays is there to allow for a bit more movement in the rear end (3 full cm) when the stays flex..." Does he really mean centimeters of movement and not millimeters? If he means cm, in what direction is this movement?
2) Do I correctly see that the frame is clamped by the top tube in one picture?
3) How objective is a review when the reviewer has put down some 7 large ones for the bike? Not counting the Lightweight wheels...

For sure, Serotta makes beautiful bikes.

[hooverone]

I would imagine that a reviewer would not be paying full price for the bike.



Jim

[MartyE]

very good article, doesn't speak too much about ride qualities, but speaks
volumes about the build process and the fact that his shop/fitter knew
what they were doing (even when he didn't?).
pretty complimentary to Serotta too.
Marty

[Bruce]

"I was willing to give up top end stiffness for long haul compliance."

I for one would never agree to that compromise. No reason you can't have both with a full carbon bike. Ti is so last century. Also the bike shown in the bike stand clamped to the top tube was the bike in production, not with the carbon tubes installed. No way you would do that to carbon.

[Bruce K]

My take was that he purposely "played dumb" about some of his expertise to see what the end result would be.

This review is a great compliment to the folks at Serotta and their fitter who worked with the writer.

I would think most of us who own Serottas can relate very closely to the reviewer's experience (I can for both of mine) as far as getting exactly the bike he wanted.

Bravo Ben and Co. :banana: another great performance.

BK

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . how about a link????? :confused:

BBDave

[jeffg]

"I was willing to give up top end stiffness for long haul compliance."

I for one would never agree to that compromise. No reason you can't have both with a full carbon bike. Ti is so last century. Also the bike shown in the bike stand clamped to the top tube was the bike in production, not with the carbon tubes installed. No way you would do that to carbon.

Let me guess, you own a Calfee D'Fly? I think I remember you from the original fora. Anyway, apodictic statements like "Ti is so last century" is what jogs my memory. What I also remember are my test rides of several D'Flys. What I won't compromise is handling and feel. I love my Parlee, but just because it's full carbon doesn't mean it's good. If that's last century thinking, I'll stick with my luddite thoughts and my Legend.

[bostondrunk]

I know I'll get flamed, but....
Geeeezuz, I just can't see dropping close to 10K on one bike. I'm guessing that was the cost of the recently posted Ottrott in the image gallery. Ouch!!!
I know, all relative.......relatively stupid!!!!! hahaha ;)

[dirtdigger88]

Drunk,

You and I agree so often it scares me. I am know those who own Ottrotts swear by them- but come on. I am no better rider on my Legend than I was on my Lemond. I just have $6k less in my savings account. Is the Ottrott $4k or 166% better than a Legend? I also understand that money is all relative. Some people are out there right now saying $6k for a bike- DD you are nuts. Some people drop more than $10k in a weekend in Vegas. . .the more you make the more you spend. If I am ever spending $10k on a two wheeler- it is going to have a V Twin engine :cool:

Jason

[bostondrunk]

Drunk,

You and I agree so often it scares me. I am know those who own Ottrotts swear by them- but come on. I am no better rider on my Legend than I was on my Lemond. I just have $6k less in my savings account. Is the Ottrott $4k or 166% better than a Legend? I also understand that money is all relative. Some people are out there right now saying $6k for a bike- DD you are nuts. Some people drop more than $10k in a weekend in Vegas. . .the more you make the more you spend. If I am ever spending $10k on a two wheeler- it is going to have a V Twin engine :cool:

Jason

Go for the Yamaha R1 !!

[dirtdigger88]

Naw- Sir Drunk

Where I come from real men ride hogs. If you ride rice- you better be fast- cause a "Club" of bikers will be hot on your tail :beer:

Jason

[bostondrunk]

An R1 is a damn nice bowl of rice!!!

I hate hoggs. But then again, I hate Rivendales, Nagasawas, and compact frames, which others here seem to worship...:)

[Bruce]

Yes Jeffg, you are correct.

I think the Otrott is a great bike, I never said it was not, nor will I ever. I also love my steel frame I ride 5 days a week. Carbon is simply a better material with which to build a bicycle frame.

I still say why compromise on frame stiffness for comfort when you don't have to? This rider apparently thought you had to make this trade off. I know you don't.

Bicycle design is all about stiffness, weight, comfort. With metal, pick any two, with carbon, pick any three. Why pick two?

[dbrk]

An R1 is a damn nice bowl of rice!!!

I hate hoggs. But then again, I hate Rivendales, Nagasawas, and compact frames, which others here seem to worship...:)

How about old Indians? Or Indian Enfields? Now _that_ would be a bike of the motorized sort I could love. I can like any that doesn't blow past me so loud that it _hurts_ (and that the Hog types seem not to get, i.e., that the rest of us don't like how loud they are...), but one of these? Perhaps they are like Rivendells. (N.B., a "dell" is bounded by water, a "dale" is more like a glade with mountains or "sides"; our house is a dell, like Rivendell. As for bikes, there are no "Rivendales," but no foul, no harm done, of course)

dbrk
trying to keep this short enough so that BD will read it without yelling at me for prolixity (and he is quite right to do so!)


apre BD:
This Pez Cycling piece of course ignores the cost/benefit question, one that I cannot get past. Folks spend their money as they choose but the premium for an Ottrott is simply not something I will indulge, period. There is, however, one on eBay for $2500...but truth to tell, I am in too deep and not deeply enough into this option. To each his own, I prefer two Nagasawas (one road, one road fixed) to not-even-one Ottrott. Your choice may differ.

[William]

Buell!

Where I come from real men ride hogs.

As I was told in a Harley dealership back in Oregon, "women ride Sportsters, men ride the rest".

Thought crosses my mind everytime I see a guy on a Sportster, and there are a lot of them out here. Out there most guys are on FatBoys.

Go figure? :confused:

William

[bostondrunk]

Hmmm....I guess we could say a Harley is the equivalent of buying an Ottrott...
Re: my last post, I do like some old school steel frames. Love the old Mosers with Oria tubing with the extended seat tube. Love the Merckx MX Leader. But I can't find a NOS Moser in my size, and can't justify the expense of the MX at the moment...
Willie, would you take 30 bucks for the basset hound??

[dirtdigger88]

Douglas,

I actually have a 1973 Indian Mini Mini. They were an import from a company called ItaliaJet. Indian brought only 250 of them in. I got one when I was 4 years old. Thirty years pass and I got the bike back from the family member that had it all that time. I am now restoring it for my son. I have all of the engine parts-(its a 2 stroke so there are not that many). I got the carb out of england and I have just found a company in the states to rebuild the rear shocks and the front fork. I have some pix of the bike on my hope computer and I even have some pix of my on the bike in 1974. :cool:

Jason

[Sandy]

I would bet the Basset hound is not for sale. If you offered William an Ottrott and a MX Leader in exhange for the Basset hound, I am pretty sure that the exchange would not be made.

If all the bars, liquor store,.... were closed, and you had no booze at home for the weekeknd, would you pay me $30 for a six pack of your favorite beer??


Bow Wow Sandy

[JohnS]

Real men rode Sportsters back in the old days (70's) when they were kickstart.

[dirtdigger88]

Real men rode Sportsters back in the old days (70's) when they were kickstart.

Yeah- before Harley used rubber mounting bracket. Does anyone here know what Harley stands for.

H - Harleys
A - Aren't
R - Reliable
L - Like
E - Every
Y - Yamaha

Jason ;)

[bostondrunk]

I would bet the Basset hound is not for sale. If you offered William an Ottrott and a MX Leader in exhange for the Basset hound, I am pretty sure that the exchange would not be made.

If all the bars, liquor store,.... were closed, and you had no booze at home for the weekeknd, would you pay me $30 for a six pack of your favorite beer??


Bow Wow Sandy

1. I bet willie would trade the hound for a set of tubies!!!!

2. Contrary to popular belief, the drunk really doesn't drink beer. A good vadka martini with olives is king at home. At the bars, Rye and ginger.

[JohnS]

Nice joke. I know a few bars you could tell it in. :D

[William]

Willie, would you take 30 bucks for the basset hound??

Can't buy love my friend. :no:

Not even for Sandy's Ottrott or the "K" man's MX Leader.

1. I bet willie would trade the hound for a set of tubies!!!!

Hmm, well mayb...NOPE!! :no:

Might let you pet her for a set of tubies, Sandy's Ottrott or the "K" man's MX Leader.

:)

William ;)

[vaxn8r]

Buell!



As I was told in a Harley dealership back in Oregon, "women ride Sportsters, men ride the rest".

Thought crosses my mind everytime I see a guy on a Sportster, and there are a lot of them out here. Out there most guys are on FatBoys.

Go figure? :confused:

William


That's exactly how it is out here. Sexist to be sure. But men don't ride Sportsters. And Lance don't ride no #$*%#* girl's bike either. ;) ;)

[William]

That's exactly how it is out here. Sexist to be sure. But men don't ride Sportsters. And Lance don't ride no #$*%#* girl's bike either.


WORD!!!

:D :D :D


William

[toaster]

Too bad this turned into a thread about Harleys.

I could care less.

I did read the review and thought it was worthy of mention, thanks.

[JohnS]

Ya gotta take the good with the bad; the chaff with the wheat.

[Dr. Doofus]

Or Indian Enfields?



not that kind of Enfield, but your Doctor loved his old Enfield MkIII...any griping about corrosive ammo can be directed to your Doctor's posterior.

Anyway, there is nothing wrong or foolish or asinine about a $10,000 bike...please consult the Fable of the Bees for any justification needed for Ottrots, Armani suits, or escort services.

A reluctant but yet indulgent participant in capitalism,


Dr. D. Doofus, Esq.