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Skrawny
11-03-2004, 04:38 PM
I've been riding for about 1.5 years and have decided to upgrade my bike.

I made the mistake of taking a test ride on a Legend ST and loved it; it was the best ride of my life. It climbed well, was much more comfortable than my aluminum bike and on the curvy downhill seemed to just stick to the track. I love that bike, but its price is awfully high for me. I acknowledge that I am trying to compare an apple with an orange (or maybe a Porsche with a WRX), but how much do I loose with one of the new Fierte frames in lieu of a Legend? Is that cornering ability that I loved in the Legend inherent to the ST seatstay, or is it a part of either the Serotta ride, or the CS seatstay?

I have read the discussions in this site about the benefits of a custom fit vs stock, but I am not sure I can afford the premium. I do plan on riding the new Fierte as soon as I can, but I would appreciate your opinions.

I am about 140 lbs 5'6" and more of a spinner than a power rider. I am average in just about every way and don't have any unusual fit problems. I revel in the hills and try to keep up in the flats.

Sandy
11-03-2004, 04:53 PM
The excellent cornering of the bike is part of the Serotta design.

I would think that regular CS seat stays would add very little to the cornering ability of the bike.

The ST stay would probably add a little to the cornering ability of the bike, since it would probably keep a better rear contact with the ground.

I would think that the Serotta design is of utmost importance, the CS seat stays would mean almost nothing comparitively, and the ST would mean some but comparitively little to bicycle design.

This is obviously my opinion only, but I think that I am correct. Others would know a great deal more than me, certainly.


Slowly taking a fast turn,

Sandy

Larry
11-04-2004, 02:51 AM
If you are on a fixed budget, take a close look at the Serotta Concours Ti.
Everyone gives favorable reports on this frame, and Serotta engineering, custom fit, and service make the difference.

Also, make sure that you have an excellent fit specialist.

Go for a Serotta. Your expectations of a great bike will definitely be exceeded.

Larry

Andreu
11-04-2004, 03:27 AM
...always get fitted and buy the frame only then save up for the bits. I have done this twice with bikes and taken nearly a year to build up a bike each time. It can be a little bit fustrating but it is well worth the wait.
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Richard
11-04-2004, 06:59 AM
What size are you looking at? If you know your geometry needs, try used to save money. It just so happens that I have a 53 Legend Ti ST frame and Ouzo Pro fork for sale. Price is pretty good, if you are interested.

Serotta PETE
11-04-2004, 08:11 AM
Have had the opportunity of riding many Serottas over the years and the recent Legend ST is one of the best riding that I have had the pleasure of.

There are questions that you need to ask yourself - but as Sandy mentioned, "there is not a bad riding Serotta"!

Questions:
- What is my budget (If the Legend ST funds are there - you will not be sorry about spending the $$s once you ride it.)
- What type of riding am I going to do and then what did I like and dislike about my current bike (Your fitter can take this into consideration when fitting you)

Fierte, Concours, Legend, etc are all great riding bikes......The Concours, especially on sizes below 57cm is very close to Legend.

As to CS carbon rear vs ST - - - I really like the ST. (Legend), For a non carbon rear and <57cm I like the concours.

For a Fork you can not beat the F2 (I have not ridden to O2).

Hope this is of some assistance.

Needs Help
11-04-2004, 09:36 AM
wrong thread