Deddacai vs. Columbus

[animl57]

Anyone have thoughts on Deddacai tubing. I'm having a custom frame built and I need to know which brand to go with.

[fiamme red]

Why not let the builder decide?

[Elefantino]

+1.

[David Kirk]

If the builder doesn't have an opinion I'd seek out a different builder.

dave

[rphetteplace]

different builders will each have there own favorite. Some guys are Columbus guys, some guys are Reynolds guys. Some guys use different mfg's for different tubes in the same bike. it's all up to the builder. imho

[Steve in SLO]

Anyone have thoughts on Deddacai tubing. I'm having a custom frame built and I need to know which brand to go with.

I have two Deddacai-tubed bikes and they are my favorites. That being said, my EL-OS Columbus bike is pretty sweet. I love my Moots Ti, too.
Point is although tube type contributes to the bike, geometry is what really makes it.
My 0.02

Steve

[bigbill]

Pegoretti built frames from Deddacai for years before switching to Columbus. They all ride well and are highly sought after. Therefore..... skill and knowledge of the builder > the manufacturer of the tubing.

[Peter P.]

The brand of steel should be irrelevent to you, unless you're interested in a particular shape for aesthetic reasons. All steels have essentially the same properties in regard to ride qualities; it's the shape and wall thickness which will influence ride quality.

Let the builder use what they're comfortable with.

[fiamme red]

I'd go with Columbus because it's easier to spell.

[soulspinner]

Diameter(for a given geo) is the number one determinate of ride quality, tell the builder how you want it to ride etc, let them do the rest......

[cpg]

I'd go with Columbus because it's easier to spell.

Excellent point but is it Italian enough? Isn't Columbus a city in OH? Dedacciai now that just looks Italian.

OP don't worry about it. Worry about the color and let the builder figure this stuff out.

Curt

[animl57]

Thanks guys! I spoke to my builder today & he explained to me the various properties of the steal he's using. We decided TOGETHER, to go with Dedaccai. Cheers! :beer:

[Oirad]

I'd go with Columbus because it's easier to spell.

No kidding.

BTW, it's Deddaciai.

Oirad

[cpg]

No kidding.

BTW, it's Deddaciai.

Oirad


Actually it's Dedacciai but I have to look at the box everytime I type it.

Curt

[cadence90]

Pegoretti built frames from Deddacai for years before switching to Columbus. They all ride well and are highly sought after. Therefore..... skill and knowledge of the builder > the manufacturer of the tubing.
Perhaps I'm wrong (and in any case I'm not saying that one of these 2 manufacturers is necessarily better than the other), but I thought I read somewhere that the reason for Pegoretti's switch was that Columbus was more open to butting tubing to Dario's specifications, which for some reason Dedacciai had decided to no longer do.

As I say, I may be wong on that, but there is that part of the builder/manufacturer relationship which does play an important role in their choices.

[gemship]

Just out of curiousity. How many over bike steel makers are there? I also know of Reynolds, are they still in the business?

[PacNW2Ford]

True Temper and Reynolds

Tange still has a website and Kogswell uses ECO from Taiwan.

[cadence90]

Just out of curiousity. How many over bike steel makers are there? I also know of Reynolds, are they still in the business?
Off the top of my head, the top-end steel bicycle tubing manufactuers are: Columbus; Dedacciai; Kaisei (formerly Ishiwata); Tange Prestige (no longer produced, but I think some builders still have stock); True Temper; and Reynolds.