John Kerry

[fiamme red]

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2008/09/03/john_kerry_road_rider/index.html?source=newsletter

http://www.slipstreamsports.com/2008/08/29/my-un-conventional-ride

[jhcakilmer]

Great article, just wish he wasn't so stiff and awkward in 2004. He would have been a great prez, probably wouldn't have stayed as fit, though.

Probably done a lot of cycling in the past 4 years, to burn off the frustration... ;)

[johnnymossville]

His Orange Serotta is nice.

[Ray]

And the dude can descend like a lunatic, so at he very least, I know he’s got balls.
No, WAIT, he's a latte sipping, wind-surfing, elitist wimp who made up all of that heroic ***** he did in Viet Nam. He can't have balls! This is very very very confusing. I have to go have a latte and let this sink in a bit.

-Ray

[zap]

We see him riding some in the D.C. burbs.

[Ahneida Ride]

If anyone belives that riding a bike is for whimps and wussys,
I invite em to ride a 17 mile loop with me. Tis close to where I live. ;)

[News Man]

No, WAIT, he's a latte sipping, wind-surfing, elitist wimp who made up all of that heroic ***** he did in Viet Nam.

-Ray

Correct!

I am not sure descending skills translate into balls or not. Its more about the bike. I descend with confidence on some bikes, but not others.

Kerry is probably a great guy to hang out with and maybe even ride with (like most people actually), but did not have the right stuff to lead then or now.

[Ray]

Correct!

I am not sure descending skills translate into balls or not. Its more about the bike. I descend with confidence on some bikes, but not others.

Kerry is probably a great guy to hang out with and maybe even ride with (like most people actually), but did not have the right stuff to lead then or now.
I'm not gonna respond to any political taunts, no matter how strongly I disagree. Because I'm a latte sipping, bike riding, wimp.

-Ray

[93legendti]

Correct!

I am not sure descending skills translate into balls or not. Its more about the bike. I descend with confidence on some bikes, but not others.

Kerry is probably a great guy to hang out with and maybe even ride with (like most people actually), but did not have the right stuff to lead then or now.

Yes.


I am not sure how an average Senator; who ran a lousy National candidacy would be a "great" President, but I hear all sorts of things these days that surprise.

Here's what I thought at the time:

I am not sure Sen. Kerry fully vetted Sen. Edwards before picking him to be a V.P./running mate. Sen. Edwards was SO inexperienced: a one time US Senator with no foreign policy experience and no executive experience. Sen. Edwards didn't come from a big town. And he was SO young in 2004! You need more than good looks to be a VP. For him to be one heartbeat from the Presidency was scary. How much time did Sen. Kerry spend with Sen. Edwards before picking him to be the V.P./running mate?

How his sick wife and 2 young kids would have adapted to the National spotlight is something I hope Sen. Edwards (and Sen. Kerry) thought thru. I think his wife should have spent more time with her kids. :rolleyes:

[dauwhe]

September and October are probably the best months of the year for riding in much of the U.S. Go out and ride, and come back and tell us how wonderful it was. Ask about tires and saddles. Tell scary stories about dogs and motorists and potholes. Make fun of slower riders. Make fun of faster riders. Share your favorite post-ride beverage. Make fun of me for eating Cheetos after long rides. Pretend to care about the Vuelta. Brag about how low your bars are. Tell me my favorite band sucks. Anything but this!

Dave

[jhcakilmer]

Yes.


I am not sure how an average Senator; who ran a lousy National candidacy would be a "great" President, but I hear all sorts of things these days that surprise.

Here's what I thought at the time:

I am not sure Sen. Kerry fully vetted Sen. Edwards before picking him to be a V.P./running mate. Sen. Edwards was SO inexperienced: a one time US Senator with no foreign policy experience and no executive experience. Sen. Edwards didn't come from a big town. And he was SO young in 2004! You need more than good looks to be a VP. For him to be one heartbeat from the Presidency was scary. How much time did Sen. Kerry spend with Sen. Edwards before picking him to be the V.P./running mate?

How his sick wife and 2 young kids would have adapted to the National spotlight is something I hope Sen. Edwards (and Sen. Kerry) thought thru. I think his wife should have spent more time with her kids. :rolleyes:


So what did Dan Quayle bring to GHB?

Kerry, had more experience (national and international, including military), and more capability than GW, so all arguments are lost on this subject. Kerry would of been atleast an average president, much higher standards than present administration.

I liked Edwards at the time, but have lost a lot of respect for him. At the time, what he lacked in experience, he more than made up in capability!!!

man, I can't believe you brought up family values. Paulin touts herself as a "social conservative", which I think is ridiculous in of itself (like a political party determines, or represents the authenticity of spiritual conviction, or whether you love your family, etc).......but has an autistic child, and daughter that's pregnant.....how much time do you really think she spends with them??? What would happen if she became prez by default???

[davep]

SSeptember and October are probably the best months of the year for riding in much of the U.S. Go out and ride, and come back and tell us how wonderful it was. Ask about tires and saddles. Tell scary stories about dogs and motorists and potholes. Make fun of slower riders. Make fun of faster riders. Share your favorite post-ride beverage. Make fun of me for eating Cheetos after long rides. Pretend to care about the Vuelta. Brag about how low your bars are. Tell me my favorite band sucks. Anything but this!

Chocolate milk

Cheetos - really?

Your favorite band sucks!!!

Anything but this!
+1,000,000

[BumbleBeeDave]

September and October are probably the best months of the year for riding in much of the U.S. Go out and ride, and come back and tell us how wonderful it was. Ask about tires and saddles. Tell scary stories about dogs and motorists and potholes. Make fun of slower riders. Make fun of faster riders. Share your favorite post-ride beverage. Make fun of me for eating Cheetos after long rides. Pretend to care about the Vuelta. Brag about how low your bars are. Tell me my favorite band sucks. Anything but this!

Dave

Can't you guys find enough about this PRESENT election to start sniping at each other about?

ALL of youz guys go out for a LONG ride and quit this!

BBD

PS . . . Can I still be a wimp if I ride a bike but don't sip latte? What if I chug-a-lug my latte instead of sipping it? does that make me more manly? :rolleyes:

[Ahneida Ride]

Because I'm a latte sipping, bike riding, wimp.
-Ray


Me Too !

[Ahneida Ride]

B**2 D ...

Sorry, you must sip. Even William sips .... ;)

Sipping is most relaxing after a nice ride. :banana:

[News Man]

Me Too !

Then, I am sorry, I can't vote for you as President of the U.S. I can however ride and hang with you. :)

[dauwhe]

Chocolate milk

Cheetos - really?

Really! Chocolate milk during the ride; cheetos and soda after. I have the discerning tastes of a ten-year-old!

;)

Dave

[GearsSchme]

Correct!

I am not sure descending skills translate into balls or not. Its more about the bike. I descend with confidence on some bikes, but not others.


Wrong, anyone who can charge the lee hill switchback at that pace is a damn champ and applause is due. :beer:

[67-59]

September and October are probably the best months of the year for riding in much of the U.S. Go out and ride, and come back and tell us how wonderful it was. Ask about tires and saddles. Tell scary stories about dogs and motorists and potholes. Make fun of slower riders. Make fun of faster riders. Share your favorite post-ride beverage. Make fun of me for eating Cheetos after long rides. Pretend to care about the Vuelta. Brag about how low your bars are. Tell me my favorite band sucks. Anything but this!

Dave

Your favorite brand sucks.

Oh, and +1. :beer:

[News Man]

Wrong, anyone who can charge the lee hill switchback at that pace is a damn champ and applause is due. :beer:


I would have to ride it before I can agree with that statement, but if you are impressed with him (because he has balls), that would be between you and him.

[Climb01742]

Yes.


I am not sure how an average Senator; who ran a lousy National candidacy would be a "great" President, but I hear all sorts of things these days that surprise.

Here's what I thought at the time:

I am not sure Sen. Kerry fully vetted Sen. Edwards before picking him to be a V.P./running mate. Sen. Edwards was SO inexperienced: a one time US Senator with no foreign policy experience and no executive experience. Sen. Edwards didn't come from a big town. And he was SO young in 2004! You need more than good looks to be a VP. For him to be one heartbeat from the Presidency was scary. How much time did Sen. Kerry spend with Sen. Edwards before picking him to be the V.P./running mate?

How his sick wife and 2 young kids would have adapted to the National spotlight is something I hope Sen. Edwards (and Sen. Kerry) thought thru. I think his wife should have spent more time with her kids. :rolleyes:

i say this with a :D ...

isn't your political ax plenty sharp enough without needing to grind it at every opportunity? today, he's a guy who really rides, and it's a serotta no less. can't we just cut him some slack? :beer: ;) :p

[johnnymossville]

i say this with a :D ...

isn't your political ax plenty sharp enough without needing to grind it at every opportunity? today, he's a guy who really rides, and it's a serotta no less. can't we just cut him some slack? :beer: ;) :p

Yep, I agree. He rides. That's cool no matter what.

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . and please let this thread die! :crap:

BBD

[Alexi]

Yes.


I am not sure how an average Senator; who ran a lousy National candidacy would be a "great" President, but I hear all sorts of things these days that surprise.

Here's what I thought at the time:

I am not sure Sen. Kerry fully vetted Sen. Edwards before picking him to be a V.P./running mate. Sen. Edwards was SO inexperienced: a one time US Senator with no foreign policy experience and no executive experience. Sen. Edwards didn't come from a big town. And he was SO young in 2004! You need more than good looks to be a VP. For him to be one heartbeat from the Presidency was scary. How much time did Sen. Kerry spend with Sen. Edwards before picking him to be the V.P./running mate?

How his sick wife and 2 young kids would have adapted to the National spotlight is something I hope Sen. Edwards (and Sen. Kerry) thought thru. I think his wife should have spent more time with her kids. :rolleyes:


hahahahaha I get it!

[News Man]

Yep, I agree. He rides. That's cool no matter what.

I can agree with that.

[Viper]

September and October are probably the best months of the year for riding in much of the U.S. Go out and ride, and come back and tell us how wonderful it was. Ask about tires and saddles. Tell scary stories about dogs and motorists and potholes. Make fun of slower riders. Make fun of faster riders. Share your favorite post-ride beverage. Make fun of me for eating Cheetos after long rides. Pretend to care about the Vuelta. Brag about how low your bars are. Tell me my favorite band sucks. Anything but this!

Dave

Cool stuff. :beer:

I'd also like to add that Facebook is a joke, who the hell has 94 friends or 59 friends or even 43?

[Ozz]

...I'd also like to add that Facebook is a joke, who the hell has 94 friends or 59 friends or even 43?
May I add, who the heck feels the need to count their friends?

Man it's nice outside today..... :beer:

[Ray]

Tell me my favorite band sucks. Anything but this!

Dave
Adam, your favorite band sucks! Dave, yours is probably OK.

That was a joke. Really. Its probably the other way around. Maybe MY favorite band sucks.

Politics is so confusing!

Peace, out.

-Ray

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . Except mine, of course! The Rainmakers ROCK!

Gotta go ride now . . .

BBD

[Viper]

Adam, your favorite band sucks! Dave, yours is probably OK.

That was a joke. Really. Its probably the other way around. Maybe MY favorite band sucks.

Politics is so confusing!

Peace, out.

-Ray

I was an anti-Dead Head. Dunno why, I was too busy wearing sweater vests in the 80's. The Dead weren't 80's to my U2, Howard Jones, Cult, Cure, Duran Duran, INXS, PiL, Depeche Mode ears. I am glad to say I caught The Dead three times, they were really on for one of the shows, the other two, not so much. Politics can be very lame indeed. I still have many of my sweater vests. Ripple, may your water bottle be full.

[Alexi]

Cool stuff. :beer:

I'd also like to add that Facebook is a joke, who the hell has 94 friends or 59 friends or even 43?

ok quick look at myspace, I have 173 friends, comming out to 5 pages of friends with 40 friends on each page. There is an average of 2 bands per page (most of which include my friends) but the rest are people I'd consider 1rst tier or second tier friends, their signifigant others or people who serve me coffee, food or work at other bikeshops or . Looking thru there is not a single person I could not enjoy a conversation with for at least 30 minutes, most I see on a regular basis (those I don't are in other cities). I'd consider them friends. But perhaps I'm just a friendly person?

[Viper]

ok quick look at myspace, I have 173 friends, comming out to 5 pages of friends with 40 friends on each page. There is an average of 2 bands per page (most of which include my friends) but the rest are people I'd consider 1rst tier or second tier friends, their signifigant others or people who serve me coffee, food or work at other bikeshops or . Looking thru there is not a single person I could not enjoy a conversation with for at least 30 minutes, most I see on a regular basis (those I don't are in other cities). I'd consider them friends. But perhaps I'm just a friendly person?

I need some new inner tubes, Michelin preferred. If you send me one, with three (3) UPC symbols from any General Mills cereal, I will be your myspace friend. I will also rave about you to all 173 of your friends, how you were a Cat1 racer, but a shark attack ended your career etc. Moreover, for $9.99 the first five minutes and $4.99 every minute thereafter, I will conference-call you in the next time there's a hardcore sci-fi convo at the LGS:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=50013

EDIT: Jesus, I'll conference you in for free! Anyone who digs Moby Dick AND The Sea Wolf (1904) is in. Bro, I have a near original copyright (December 1916) of The Sea Wolf, my # 1 favorite book (even more than the Star Wars screenplay). Sea Wolf...I scarcely know where to begin...

http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/SeaWolf/


:beer:

[Ray]

I was an anti-Dead Head. Dunno why, I was too busy wearing sweater vests in the 80's. The Dead weren't 80's to my U2, Howard Jones, Cult, Cure, Duran Duran, INXS, PiL, Depeche Mode ears. I am glad to say I caught The Dead three times, they were really on for one of the shows, the other two, not so much. Politics can be very lame indeed. I still have many of my sweater vests. Ripple, may your water bottle be full.
The beauty part with the Dead was how bad they could be and how freakin' amazingly great they could be the next night. They took chances, they let themselves try stuff and fail. But when it worked, good lord did it work. I saw a lot of bands that were very very very very good and even great night after night after night. But it wasn't interesting or different enough to keep going back. With the Dead, you just never knew, which kept it fun. But the '80s was not their best decade by a long shot, so I'm not surprised they didn't do much for you.

-Ray

[jdoiv]

snip. . . The Rainmakers ROCK!
snip


BBD
+1!

[gdw]

showed them riding single file up Lefthand Canyon. :D

[Alexi]

hmmm well I've got some latex michelin tubes kicking around but you'll have to pay for um... how about with that copy of the Sea Wolf. You can drop it off at Ace Wheelworks 175 Elm st. Somerville MA.

oh so yeah I'm not voting for neither party... is there some way we can just nominate a King or something?


I need some new inner tubes, Michelin preferred. If you send me one, with three (3) UPC symbols from any General Mills cereal, I will be your myspace friend. I will also rave about you to all 173 of your friends, how you were a Cat1 racer, but a shark attack ended your career etc. Moreover, for $9.99 the first five minutes and $4.99 every minute thereafter, I will conference-call you in the next time there's a hardcore sci-fi convo at the LGS:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=50013

EDIT: Jesus, I'll conference you in for free! Anyone who digs Moby Dick AND The Sea Wolf (1904) is in. Bro, I have a near original copyright (December 1916) of The Sea Wolf, my # 1 favorite book (even more than the Star Wars screenplay). Sea Wolf...I scarcely know where to begin...

http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/SeaWolf/


:beer:

[michael white]

The beauty part with the Dead was how bad they could be and how freakin' amazingly great they could be the next night. They took chances, they let themselves try stuff and fail. But when it worked, good lord did it work. I saw a lot of bands that were very very very very good and even great night after night after night. But it wasn't interesting or different enough to keep going back. With the Dead, you just never knew, which kept it fun. But the '80s was not their best decade by a long shot, so I'm not surprised they didn't do much for you.

-Ray


I don't remember anything good from the 80s. Was there something I missed?

[michael white]

I was an anti-Dead Head. Dunno why, I was too busy wearing sweater vests in the 80's. The Dead weren't 80's to my U2, Howard Jones, Cult, Cure, Duran Duran, INXS, PiL, Depeche Mode ears. I am glad to say I caught The Dead three times, they were really on for one of the shows, the other two, not so much. Politics can be very lame indeed. I still have many of my sweater vests. Ripple, may your water bottle be full.

sweater vests over a white t-shirt--still cutting edge atmo.

[Blue Jays]

"I don't remember anything good from the 80s. Was there something I missed?"Yes. The most awesome heavy metal music EVER! :)

[93legendti]

Yes. The most awesome heavy metal music EVER! :)
.
Ratt
Winger
Whitensake
White Lion
Night Ranger
Van Halen
Bonham
Kingdom Come
Motley Crue

[jhcakilmer]

Yes. The most awesome heavy metal music EVER! :)

Don't you mean Glam Metal, or Hair Bands??? Gotta love the big hair!!

[Dekonick]

I was an anti-Dead Head. Dunno why, I was too busy wearing sweater vests in the 80's. The Dead weren't 80's to my U2, Howard Jones, Cult, Cure, Duran Duran, INXS, PiL, Depeche Mode ears. I am glad to say I caught The Dead three times, they were really on for one of the shows, the other two, not so much. Politics can be very lame indeed. I still have many of my sweater vests. Ripple, may your water bottle be full.

Howard Jones and PiL - that's an interesting mix...

[Dekonick]

.
Ratt
Winger
Whitensake
White Lion
Night Ranger
Van Halen
Bonham
Kingdom Come
Motley Crue

Ahem...

how about

AC/DC
Scorpions
RUSH

( :banana:

[Blue Jays]

One can't forget the classic heavy metal band that essentially created a genre:

http://judaspriest.com/photo/newpriest/NewPriestLogoWhite_1024.jpg

[Blue Jays]

Rock on!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/itsamelman/Freep/bandbheadbang.gif

[93legendti]

Rock on!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/itsamelman/Freep/bandbheadbang.gif
Triumph
April Wine

Ahem...

how about

AC/DC
Scorpions
RUSH

( :banana:

Motorhead
Fastway
Pat Travers
BOC

[Alexi]

RUSH SUCKS!

http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/Iron_Maiden_Iron_Maiden_record_album_cover_Eddie.j pg

[Alexi]

Ace of Spades (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4esUPN8SIs)

[93legendti]

Msg

[Blue Jays]

We must absolutely remember other 1980's greats like:


Dokken
Cinderella
Queensryche
Rainbow
Dio
and of course, the great OZZY OSBOURNE!

[Viper]

We must absolutely remember other 1980's greats like:


Dokken
Cinderella
Queensryche
Rainbow
Dio
and of course, the great OZZY OSBOURNE!


Metallica? Yes!

[Blue Jays]

Ted Nugent was the coolest back then.
We also have the two M's of fury, Megadeth & Metallica

[93legendti]

Stryper!

[Blue Jays]

Viper, we were posting simultaneously. We were communicating with the power of rock.

[johnnymossville]

Judas Priest. hehe

[93legendti]

Def Leppard

[Blue Jays]

Def LeppardThat bang, bang, bang combination of On Through The Night, then High 'N' Dry, followed by Pyromania was fantastic during that era...

Good catch! :)

[93legendti]

That bang, bang, bang combination of On Through The Night, then High 'N' Dry, followed by Pyromania was fantastic during that era...

Good catch! :)
Can't believe I didn't mention them sooner...

[Viper]

That bang, bang, bang combination of On Through The Night, then High 'N' Dry, followed by Pyromania was fantastic during that era...

Good catch! :)

I recently bought their double disc, greatest hits. Disc 1 rocks!

Still, some of the biggest metal, rock stars of the 80's were Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche. :)

[Blue Jays]

Sean "Saturday Night" Kelly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlEhfLkeNEs) was definitely the schizzle!
Had a huge poster of him hanging behind my bike in my bedroom for years.

[GearsSchme]

Def Leppard
Auditory garbage, my ears are bleeding just reading this.

[Blue Jays]

"...my ears are bleeding just reading this..."What are your suggestions? We're very busy rockin' here, dude! :)

[Viper]

Sean "Saturday Night" Kelly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlEhfLkeNEs) was definitely the schizzle!
Had a huge poster of him hanging behind my bike in my bedroom for years.

Was Billy Squire a five-hit wonder? I felt some Zeppelin in those five songs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_sSrV9eFrM

[Blue Jays]

Yep, there is definitely a flavor of Led Zeppelin drum-tuning in there, for sure.

[Viper]

Yep, there is definitely a flavor of Led Zeppelin drum-tuning in there, for sure.

Robert Palmer, rest his soul, doesn't get enough credit for his work in the 80's. Rock, jazz, soul, reggae, he did it all. In a game of rock, paper, scissors, Palmer is a paper shredder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1UBS5ZL7Hs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDvXdHY3lA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7MYS06Tdw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ZOT4t_4Sc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7t4khQXm0o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxVxOoh0HcU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMT-oiiY7DE

Can we EVER forget these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAzF8iJ0gMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvAiPQRazCI

[Blue Jays]

"...Robert Palmer, rest his soul, doesn't get enough credit for his work in the 80's..."Oh, snap! He was a sharp-dresser!

[dsteady]

Oh, snap! He was a sharp-dresser!

Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley

great album.

[nohappen]

He would have been a great prez, probably wouldn't have stayed as fit, though.

[Blue Jays]

"He would have been a great prez, probably wouldn't have stayed as fit, though."Are you talking about Kip Winger, Ronnie James Dio, or Ozzy Osbourne? Maybe Joe Elliot?
Most of them still have a great set of pipes and can belt out the old tunes!

[Blue Jays]

The guys from The Cult definitely knew how to rock the 1980's:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/The_Cult-Electric_(album_cover).jpg

[Alexi]

Dio For Prez? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ_FgL5l1og)

[Bill Bove]

I had an autographed picture of Bob Weir wearing a pink jersey, riding a Spectrum Ti.

Gary Fisher had a Grateful Dead special edition Hoo Koo E Koo.

Did Dee Schneider ride :confused:

[Blue Jays]

"...I had an autographed picture of Bob Weir wearing a pink jersey, riding a Spectrum Ti..."Yep -- http://www.spectrum-cycles.com/52.htm

[97CSI]

Correct!

I am not sure descending skills translate into balls or not. Its more about the bike. I descend with confidence on some bikes, but not others.

Kerry is probably a great guy to hang out with and maybe even ride with (like most people actually), but did not have the right stuff to lead then or now.Descending in the Tampa area isn't the same as descending in the Boulder area. On a competent bike it is all about the rider.