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spiderman
09-23-2004, 02:47 PM
i have shimano tubulars
and have been pleased with the ride...
...i'm just wondering how many of you
(and maybe it's just sandy that exists on this forum)
have a second set of wheels.
am i trying to justify my own laziness?
i'm looking at a second set
so i can put some fast dugast tubulars on for time trialing
and keep my more worn set of sprinters for regular road riding
and riding the rollers this winter.
i don't want to reglue and be tearing tires off unless it's necessary.
is this excessive?
if not,
i plan to use the number of responses as a petition
to my wife, so she sees the expense as 'justified'...

gasman
09-23-2004, 02:52 PM
this is an essential expense for all the time and hassle it will save you.

M_A_Martin
09-23-2004, 02:59 PM
Spiderman,
A second set of wheels will cause you to ride your investment (bike) more often due to the ease of changing over from an expensive form of use (wear on the Dugasts) and an inexpensive form of use (your training tires).

How much is your time worth? Why should riding your bike be an exersize in tire changing?
I have two sets of wheels for my Kirk. 1 road, 1 cyclocross. I got faster at changing the tires out, but why when I have two sets of wheels available?

I also picked up a set of tubular campy neutrons for the bike and I'm putting a 13/29 cassette on them for rides involving climbing or speed. Now that is lazy.

Lazy Ginger

bostondrunk
09-23-2004, 03:29 PM
Buy a set of ultegra hubs and NOS tubular rims off ebay and build them yourself. Dirt cheap, and will ride as well as Ksyriums. nuff said!

Ozz
09-23-2004, 03:31 PM
you can't have too many pairs.... :)

M_A_Martin
09-23-2004, 03:49 PM
Right on Ozz!

Of course, I'm moving from 4 road bikes with a set of wheels for each, to 1 road bike with three sets of wheels...go figure.


Ah, here's another one for you Spiderman:

Racing is a specific type of riding, therefore you need a specific type of wheel and tire for each type of riding that you do...ooo, use the shoe analogy: You wouldn't necessarily want to wear black spike heels with a pantsuit, or combat boots with a lace formal...(of course, that depends on your wife's tastes)


Gosh I'm lucky I don't have a significant other! I don't have to explain why I have four pair of black shoes...

spiderman
09-23-2004, 04:04 PM
the idea of building a set of wheels myself.
i'm build kayaks with my daughter...
...this should be a snap compared to that...

race riding is indeed different enough...
...and the psych job that i would benefit from
with 'fast wheels'...what a motivator!
i'll really want to make them perform...

i may try a pantsuit for winter riding
...like the elevator scene in the movie...
...'kind of rides up in the crotch'...

now, as far as the 'significant other' comment...
...my wife happens to be the high school debate coach...
..keeps it very fun and interesting...
...and accountable.

va rider
09-23-2004, 04:10 PM
I initially was riding with 2 sets of wheels on my Serotta. One set for fast club riding and another set for commuting and rides on rough rodes. That worked great, but in the ultimate display of laziness, I bought a beater frame on eBay and built it up with old components. I got tired of switching wheels. Now, I just switch bikes.

I say go for it, it will really make it easier for you.

Sandy
09-23-2004, 05:32 PM
Buy a tricycle and I will bring you the wheels. Then we will climb Mt. Weather!


Sandy

Bill Bove
09-23-2004, 06:12 PM
Like everyone else is saying, a second set of wheels is a good thing. I'm no dbrk but I have my daily driver with training wheels and set of fast day wheels, then I have my race bike with road wheels and crit wheels and then I have my back up bike with a set of 28 spoke wheels and a pair with 32. Excessive? Nah, but one ex-wife is too many. I wonder if that had anything to do me having more bike stuff than she had shoes? Ginger, your input...

Too Tall
09-23-2004, 06:12 PM
I have two road bikes and a slew of wheels all set up for quick swaps. It is a HUGE advantage in time,flexibility, safety and saves big bucks not being tempted to train on expensive race tyres. Just think how easy it is to take off the commuting wheels and slap in the race wheels and away we gooo.

Will these be strictly for racing?

coylifut
09-23-2004, 06:54 PM
I have 5 sets of wheels and I'm convinced I need another set

race wheels
training wheels
wet weather training wheels
cyclocross wheels
for the trainer only wheels

I need a set of race only cyclocross wheels

chef_jmr
09-23-2004, 07:33 PM
I don't know if this will help, but I use clinchers and have two sets of wheels: the Mavic Cosmos for everyday training/riding, and then the Ksyrium SL's for those faster-climbing-I need to feed my ego rides.

I am no expert at sew-ups, but it seems to me that someone who uses tubulars would have a better argument for having two/three sets of wheels v. clinchers.

I can swap tires, cassettes, and even mix the wheel sets within minutes, but the tubulars take time for the glue to set. You have different needs, different tires to meet those needs, and even different wheels for those occasions. Tell the wife that this will enhance your enjoyment of cycling even more, thereby making your life more fulfilled. I use that line on my wife, now she thinks she has to save up for a Ottrott ST.

Good luck.

Dekonick
09-23-2004, 08:42 PM
Doesnt work on my wife... I just got shot down on my attempt to buy a fixxie...a damn nice one too.

spiderman
09-23-2004, 08:54 PM
on serveral counts...
i now realize i do need at least a second set:
one with a climbing cassette
one for exclusive, weekly time trial/racing
one for general purpose use
one for the rollers/training...
in order to enhance my enjoyment of riding
and because my time is worth more than...
...well ginger,
you do have a way with words...

M_A_Martin
09-23-2004, 11:04 PM
Bill: I'm not the one to ask, my bike stuff exceeds my shoes in both quality and quantity.

Spiderman:
Kayaks? I've built wood strip canoes with my dad for years. Our next project will be a touring kayak, the Night Heron from Gullimot. I think...we never really know which one until we actually start making sawdust.

Too Tall
09-24-2004, 05:41 AM
Yah crazy kid yah. I get it, you already got the wheels didn't you? Fess up.

spiderman
09-24-2004, 09:35 AM
too tall:
in fact, i'm wondering if you have a spy in my house...
...but, sadly no.
i have them on 'my ebay' without a bid.
picked out but not purchased!

as far as kayak building...
...we made a chesapeake 16 a couple years ago with my oldest.
it's her boat: the tinyrah.
the one my middle daughter and i are building
is the west river 18....also a chesapeake light craft...
she picked it out so it would be lighter, longer and faster than
any other boat we paddle. (i have a current design libra xt)

spiderman
09-24-2004, 11:09 AM
bummer!
just when i was thinking i was home free...
...maybe i'll bid on some zipp wheels...
...or better yet check the classifieds here...
suggestions on a time trial carbon wheelset...?