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Waldo
04-04-2008, 10:37 PM
Having loaded my Kirk Terraplane (Hi Dave) into the back seat of the car. I drove down to Solvang on Friday afternoon, March 28. The entire drive down it was very windy. In Solvang, the wind seemed to be in the 20-25 mph range. This did not bode well for the double. It was windy all evening and into the night. I checked into the hotel, walked around town a bit, and checked in at the ride registration desk. At ride registration I also read that the course would not be fully marked and event organizers strongly encouraged riders to keep a keen eye on the route sheet. Also, no post-ride meal(!). I had a quick dinner and went to bed.

I intended to get up at 5:30 to have adequate time for breakfast and to ride to the start around 6:15, just four blocks away. I woke up at 4:00 and couldn't go back to sleep. As I lay in the dark, I saw dots of light dancing on the ceiling of my room. They were reflections of parking lot lights in the hotel swimming pool water. Water was not calm -- wind.

After 90 minutes of sleeplessness, I got up at 5:30, ate, and rode to the start at 6:10 at Royal Scandinavian hotel. I found 30 riders waiting for a group to get going. Almost immediately three guys started riding, and I decided to follow them. It was overcast and still dark. The wind gusted a bit, but it was not as windy as on Friday. For just starting out and riding into the wind I thought this group was going pretty darn hard, but I was willing to stick with them for a while. At first they were looking at me like “what the hell are you doing here” but after a while, seeing that I wasn’t going anywhere, they seemed to accept me. I told them I was riding alone and asked if they minded if I rode with them They didn’t. I started taking pulls and chatting with them. The chattiest was Chris, a 52-year old who'd done all but one of California doubles last year AND Paris-Brest-Paris. The other two were Bruce, a 58-year old with thighs the size of my waist who lives at the foot of Mt. Baldy, climbs the mountain regularly, and goes by “almighty”, and Steve, a mid-50s guy whom I didn't get to know at all.

For the first hour, we rolled fairly briskly, picking off individuals and small groups, as we rode over rolling hills and through rural valleys of northern Santa Barbara County. The hills were green with large fields of lupine and California poppies covering some hillsides. After a few rollers we began a long and gradual descent toward a valley southeast of Santa Maria. We dropped Steve fairly early on a climb and Bruce fell back later. On the descent Bruce caught up and the three of us worked well together, taking 1-minute pulls. Suddenly, a rider we passed on a climb caught up to us and went past us. We jumped on his wheel. He was going close to 30 mph for mile after mile. Eventually, breathing hard, he eased off and I, then Chris took turns, but not at that speed. Either our new companion was unhappy with the pace or he felt very fresh, but he went to the front and again, pulled ferociously for good 5 minutes (at that point, I dubbed him “one-man tandem”). At this point, Bruce dropped off and Chris sat up. Not wanting to ride away from them I sat up too. As it turned out, the first rest stop was just half a mile away.

One-man tandem said that he had plenty of food and drink and took off. Steve pulled in shortly. We refilled bottles, ate a bit, and popped Endurolyte pills when we noticed two tandems, one just pulling into the rest stop, the other just about to leave. “That’s a train,” said Chris. I said “whooo, whooo!” A handful of other singles were leaving with the tandem. We slotted into the paceline and were off.

Since we were only 35+ miles into a 196-mile ride (yes, not quite a double century) there was no need for the tandem to blow its wad in the first quarter of the ride. So, they took it nice and steady, averaging speeds in the low 20s. Somewhere on a flat around mile 45 I looked at my computer. It said 24.5 mph. Then I looked at my hrm. It said 133. Then I looked back at the computer. It still said 24.5. Hrm still said 133. :-)

The tandem kept plugging along. As we passed people, they latched onto the back of the paceline. At one point I looked back and saw that the tandem was towing about 15 riders.

As I mentioned, we were warned that the course would be poorly marked and it was. Time after time, we went past an intersection when someone in the paceline would call out that we missed a turn, so we’d all turn around and go back. That was not fun. At one point we were about to catch another long paceline – they were about 25 yards ahead – when they went right instead of left. We followed them, then someone in our paceline said it’s left, we yelled at them that they missed a turn but they kept going and nobody in our paceline wanted to chase to tell them they were going the wrong way.

At this point, the tandem had been pulling for good 30 miles and they sat up. I went to the front to offer a pull, but they explained that they didn't like to follow wheels and so 15 of us dawdled along at 16 mph. No one -- including me -- seemed interested in forming a paceline to go ahead, so we waited for the tandem to recover and go to the front. Which they did fairly soon. We sailed past Santa Maria, Nipomo and another small town and were in rural country again. We hit some rollers and though the tandem climbed better than many singles, they took it easy. Again, many preferred to stay with the tandem. I went ahead and rode alone for about 10 miles into the next rest stop at mile 85. The tandem group arrived within 5 minutes.

More drink, food, pills. I was standing and chatting to a woman about her friend's Dave Kirk bike, when I looked over where the tandem had been parked and it wasn't there. I remarked to her that they took off already, but she said, "the tandem is leaving right now." And sure enough it was. I mumbled apologies for leaving abruptly and sprinted after the tandem, my mouth still stuffed with the last of a PB&J sandwich. The next destination was Morro Bay (mile 100), where we had to get a mark on our numbers as proof of making it to the half-way point. We went through beach cities south of San Luis Obispo and through San Luis Obispo, when the route took us onto Highway 1, which is a 4-lane road in those parts, with a 55 mph speed limit, which means cars were traveling at 60+ and we were on the shoulder. For 12 miles. Into the wind. My hat off to the couple from Healdsburg. They never sat up, never complained, never asked for a pull. They just hammered into Morro Bay the entire way, going over 20 mph the whole time. A couple of times I pulled out of the paceline to blow my nose and the wind felt like 15-20 mph straight-ahead, full-on, headwind. That was very impressive and very much appreciated. Our paceline grew tremendously on that stretch of the road.

We made it into Morro Bay, got off the freeway, made a right and started to climb a short hill, when coming at us in the opposite direction over the hill we saw Vespa scooters. As we climbed, there were more scooters. As we crested the hill we saw lots more scooters! It was a giant Vespa rally. There were probably 5-6 blocks of two lanes of traffic consisting of nothing but Vespa scooters. I'd guess 150 of them, more? Mostly vintage. They waived at us, we waived back at them. It was very cool, though a bit stinky. We descended to the ocean, had sticker dots attached to our numbers and rode off. I assumed the lunch stop would be there, but after finding no one to feed us and consulting the route sheet discovered that lunch would be 14 miles away. The tandem took it easy, so Chris and I set off on our own. We rode through a State park along the ocean -- Monterey pines and ocean views -- very pretty and windy. At one point we caught up to a guy on a Cervelo time trial bike. So, we sat on his wheel. As soon as he realized we were behind him he sped up. We sped up too. I sat on his wheel thinking, "I really don't need you to go that fast at mile 103. Why do we do that? Why do we speed up when someone catches us?" He didn't answer. After about a mile of this, we came to a T intersection and Cervelo dude stopped, saying he had to wait for a friend. Chris and I continued, buffeted by side winds.

After 15 minutes of oceanside rollers, we came to a turn that would take us inland. At that intersection, we caught up with a guy in a yellow jersey (never got his name). And as soon as the light changed, he too took off, going 29! I sat on his wheel for a mile or so, then took a pull at 27-28, then discovered that Chris was way off the back. Yellow jersey and I took a few more hard pulls, then we decided to ride smart and slowed down and began to talk. This was his first double. Last year, he rode 15,000 miles. This year he is averaging 400 miles a week riding 4-5 days. Anticipating my next question, he said, "I don't work." No sh*t(!) and no family either. He is 46, used to smoke 2 packs a day, drink lots of hard liquor and smoked pot. Discovered cycling 4 years ago, ditched his bad habits and is now addicted to cycling. I don't know about 400-mile weeks, but he looks very fit and rides fast. Friendly guy, good talker. I didn't ask him how he pays rent. We rode together to the lunch stop. The tandem arrived a few minutes later.

LUNCH! Subway sandwiches and V-8 juice. Sodium, yum! I learned that three (small) cans of V-8 and a big Subway sandwich can congeal in one's stomach, producing a rather uncomfortable sensation. Oh-oh, the tandem is leaving. I jumped on the bike, the uncomfortable sensation still with me, burping V-8, as we rode. (I burped V-8 the rest of the ride.) Fortunately, the tandem was a freight train rather than an express, the pace was mellow and my stomach settled gradually. So it went again: the tandem pulled and pulled at fairly high, yet comfortable, speeds for long periods, then sitting up. Though grateful for the pulls, I wasn't interested in dawdling at 15 mph. My average speed hovered in the low 19s since mile 33 and I wanted to do everything I could to keep it at 19 or higher for the duration of the ride. Now, whenever the tandem slowed down I went ahead. Yellow jersey guy was usually with me and we had one or two other people with us. We traded pulls, echeloned where road conditions permitted and winds required it, and talked.

The next rest stop was in Guadeloupe at mile 143. Guadeloupe is a neat town with an old western cowboy feeling' downtown. I know because I got to see it three times. Thanks to inattentiveness to street signs and absence of arrows (thank you ride organizers), yellow jersey and I rode past the rest stop, on through downtown and almost out of town, when we realized that street numbers were getting lower rather than higher and that we should turn around. It was thus, that we got to see downtown Guadeloupe for the second time. Third time was when rode through after leaving the rest stop.

This fifth, and next-to-last rest stop, was stocked with the same food: cookies, PB&J, drink mixes, Hammer get, and pills as all the others. There was an important difference. This rest stop was in a public park with a permanent rest room rather than portable toilets. The permanent rest room, however, was locked. Men went number 1 behind the permanent rest rooms and other public buildings. I do not know where women relieved themselves at this rest stop. The tandem took a short break and we took off. We rode through Guadeloupe for the third time (do you get the feeling that you know the town pretty well by now?) and out of town. We turned left and tailwind, baby! Half an hour behind the tandem at 27 mph. The wind was actually a bit from the left, so I got to sit next to the tandem stoker and talk to her (more draft than on the wheel) and looking ahead could see other things than the tandem's rear wheel.

We missed our turn again, but realized we'd overshot it within 50 yards of the intersection, rode 50 yards back into a howling headwind and turned onto a rural road that ran past lettuce and cabbage fields. One field also had operating oil pumps. I mean pumps pumping oil out of the ground. I hope I never eat vegetables from that field. We had a strong side wind and the tandem again lost interest. I went ahead. Rode alone for 3-4 miles, made a couple of turns, looked back and saw a group gaining. I assumed it was our tandem. It was a tandem, but it was the Fletchers, a couple from Vacaville, CA with their names Bob and Brenda emblazoned on the top tube. Marc, an English guy with whom we played leapfrog for much of the ride, rode by, grinned and gave thumbs-up. I jumped on. Pretty soon I found myself on the tandem's wheel. Unlike Healdsburg tandem which spun very quickly, the Fletchers rode bigger gears and their cadence perfectly matched mine. After a while it became mesmerizing, I felt like I was watching myself pedal. I found out that they race mountain tandems at ultra events like Leadville 100, that they're out of shape (bah! they started at 7:30, I at 6:15), both recovering from a pair of mountain tandem crashes, and were using the double as a training ride. Two mountain tandem crashes... Nasty.

At around mile 160, going toward Lompoc we found ourselves on Highway 1 again. One 2-mile stretch was strewn with small gravel and bikes started pelting each other mercilessly. I've ridden in hail and it felt like I was riding through a gravel hailstorm. Legs, arms, shoulders, face, bike -- I was spitting out bits of gravel! Showering after the ride, I washed gravel out of my hair. That part ended, though not soon enough. I even felt fresh enough to take a pull, which Fletchers gratefully accepted, as they were beginning to stand up and stretch pretty often. And, so, we pulled into the last rest stop at mile 172 (173 for me due to multiple detours).

Average speed 19.5. The big climb of the day lay just ahead.

A quick mark on the number from ride staff as proof that we were there, more drink and pills and we were off again. As soon as we left, Brenda said that we were about to start climbing the only major hill of the day -- 4 miles. The first mile was almost flat and went past a regional park. By the side of the road stood an 11-year old kid with a bike who said, "my friend wants to race you." 10 yards up the road was a kid on a mountain bike with a skipping chain, pedaling uphill. We followed, as that was our route, laughing and yelling at him, "go kid go! don't let a bunch of old farts catch you!" After a quarter mile, he declared victory and turned into a parking lot. We continued on. The climb was on a badly paved road (think Ink Grade in Napa County with all the potholes filled in, creating bumps) over a green range of hills. It was foggy, almost misty, cool, peaceful and very pretty. Also hard. Even though it was ~6%, I definitely felt it and was unpleasantly surprised to find myself in my 25 with nothing to downshift into further. The Fletchers dropped back, yellow jersey guy rode ahead, Marc and I rode together and talked. Then we caught up with yellow jersey. Finally, I asked (two guys who've never ridden these roads before, what was I thinking?) whether either of them knew how much longer this climb was. In response Marc guessed, "the cattle grade?" And, yes, we were approaching a cattle grade. And, yes, that was the top! (Average speed 19.1) I let out a big "Wheee!" and plunged down the hill. You know how sometimes you're too tired to be too careful on a descent? I was. I just relaxed and flew down. At one point I looked back up the hill and saw Marc and yellow jersey two hairpins above. The descent surface was as bad as the climb but there were no holes and it seemed that I only needed to slow down significantly for steep hairpins. After a while the road straightened and I could just let it out. That was nice: restful and fast. (Bottom of the hill average speed 19.2.)

At this point things looked good for a 19 mph day. I cruised waiting for Marc and yellow jersey, but didn't see them. Quarter mile up the road was someone in a red jersey. I looked back repeatedly, waiting for the Fletchers to come and pull me home or the other guys to catch up so we could ride together. Didn't see anyone, so I made the red jersey my target and rode.

16 miles to go. Riding time 9:25.

Caught up with the red jersey just before intersection with Highway 246 on which Solvang sits. We were 12 miles away. Turned onto 246, riding hard. Red jersey dropped off on a roller. I kept going. Average speed still 19.2. Wind was generally favorable, but I was starting to flag, though still riding in low 20s. Usually, when I start getting tired on a long ride I start to do math. Speed times time equals distance kind of math. 19 seemed like a sure thing now and it appeared I'd get in at about 5:40 p.m. with riding time of 10:15 or so. As I rode, I wondered where I might have lost that 15 minutes that could have made this a sub-10-hour ride. The only places were the scenic tours of Guadeloupe, missed turns, and tandem dawdlings. That all probably amounted to about 15 minutes. Somehow, at this point a 10-hour ride became a big deal. I cursed it all but continued to ride hard, when suddenly I saw a sign for Buellton city limits.

(Geography lesson: Buellton sits on intersection of US Hwy. 101 and CA Hwy 246, Solvang is 4 miles directly to the east on 246. I was half a mile from "Solvang 4 miles" sign.)

Consult route sheet. The ride is 192 miles long. Not 196. Good and bad. Good because I'll be done really soon. Very bad because the detours were going to cause me to miss 10 hours by a couple of minutes. Nooooooooooooo!

Tired in the brain. Tired in the legs.

Riding time 9:47. Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Felt like sitting up. But decided that if I didn't make the 10 hours it would be because I failed with my legs rather than with my brain, so I told my brain to shut up, put my head down, and rode.

GO, GO, GO.

There's a quarter-mile long curvy hill just outside Solvang. One that a fit rider would barely notice unless it comes at mile 191 (192, thank you very much) of this ride. Felt like sitting up again, but resisted. Shifted down and spun like a mad man. Oh, look, there's an ostrich farm just to the right.

"Shut up and ride!"

GO, GO, GO.

Route sheet says, "right on 5th, left on Oak." There's the top of the hill and looky, I'm in town. Where the hell is 5th?

Here it is, the first intersection!

Big ring.

5th is a slight downhill!

Clock reads "9:57:something"!!!

Where's Oak?

Just two blocks away.

GO, GO, GO.

Left on Oak. Four blocks to go. Slight downhill! Are you kidding me?!

I am sprinting through (what f---ing) stop signs!!! What f---ing stop signs?!

Event staff greet me at the T intersection and direct me to the parking lot. I pull in, stop, unclip.

"9:58:55"

Yay!

19.3 mph.

Yay!!

5:20 p.m.

Yay!!!

I checked in at the desk inside, went outside just as yellow jersey, Marc and the Fletchers were arriving together.

Epilogue

I rode back to my hotel, showered, walked back to Royal Scandinavian to buy an event jersey, also bought a present for my daughter and some pastries. Walking back to my hotel I saw the Cervelo guy just riding into Solvang.

Jack Brunk
04-04-2008, 10:58 PM
Your a stud man great ride! :beer: :banana: :beer:

Louis
04-05-2008, 12:12 AM
Great story. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

Congratulations on the accomplishment.

Louis

Fivethumbs
04-05-2008, 12:20 AM
A double century...wow....I can't even fathom that. Good story. I enjoyed reading it.

Jeff N.
04-05-2008, 01:28 AM
Hard core, man. Effing HARD CORE! You got cajones the size of beach balls! Jeff N.

DarrenCT
04-05-2008, 04:41 AM
wowzaaa!

so cool. thnx for sharing and congrats for being a super-stud (tm)

Ray
04-05-2008, 04:59 AM
Thanks for sharing Vlad. But I think you got the date wrong, unless this was a recount of LAST year's ride?

I used to read accounts of rides like this and aspire to do them. Now, I read them for confirmation that I have absolutely NO desire to do them. But I still really enjoy reading them!

-Ray

Waldo
04-05-2008, 12:02 PM
Thanks for sharing Vlad. But I think you got the date wrong, unless this was a recount of LAST year's ride?


You're right. I drove down March 28. The ride was March 29.

wanderingwheel
04-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Sorry I missed you Vlad, I was down there too. It was a prefect day for the ride, the headwind going out didn't seem too bad, and the tailwind coming back, although not what it was other years, was still very helpful. I made a couple of wrong turns too, the first one being just before Santa Maria where you're supposed to go straight even the road appears to turn. Well we made the turn and found our way back on course after a short tour of downtown Santa Maria. The other was the wrong exit off of 1 into Morro Bay, but that was quickly rectified.

There didn't seem to be very many tandems out this year. A friend of mine was riding tandem with his teenage son, and I only saw one other out by itself near Morro Bay. The fast group not only was missing its usual strong tandem, but also many of the big motors from past years.

You must have been close to a some of my freinds who finished at about the same time. I got in a little before 5, and saw quite a few groups heading home on my way back to Buelton around 5:20. You must have just been getting into Solvang as I was riding back down.

Doing any other doubles? I'll be at Mulholland next weekend and Devil Mountain after that.

Waldo
04-05-2008, 07:37 PM
I've registered for DMD but it's unchartered territory for me. I've never done a double with more climbing than at Davis or Solvang. Any advice you can offer regarding pacing, gearing, nutrition or anything else would be greatly appreciated. I've also registered for Eastern Sierra. Almost everyone I talked to at Solvang is doing Eastern Sierra as well. Jack Brunk posted here that he'd be doing it too.

At around mile 28 I talked to a guy from Lafayette, who was doing his first double. Didn't get his name. Given your ride plans, probably wasn't you. In case it was you, I was wearing a long-sleeve white Peugeot jersey and was riding a black Kirk with terraplane stays.

I saw total of 4 tandems. The two I drafted, plus a slower one with an older couple that took a short cut and bypassed Morro Bay, and there was one more.

Drop me a pm or e-mail, I live in Oakland. It would be fun to ride together at DMD and/or before and to share experiences.

Jack Brunk
04-05-2008, 07:53 PM
Vlad,

The Eastern Sierra has more climbing added with the elevation makes it's somewhat more difficult that either Davis or Solvang. If we get the nasty winds that the Sierras can get during early June well that will add to the difficulty scale. Based on your ride time from Solvang, you won't have any issues with the ride. I did mention that Planet Ultra cut out the post ride meal which really stunk in my opinon. There's some decent places in Bishop that's open later for a decent post ride meal.

wanderingwheel
04-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Yeah, I recall seeing the Peugeot jersey on your way in. I had my team kit on because that was all that was clean. Lamorinda Cycling, white with yellow and red. I'll probably be at Eastern Sierra, too.

Of the California doubles, Devil Mountain is my favorite, only partly because it's my home double and was my first. It's never too flat and boring, and there are very few junk miles, especially considering it's in the middle of the Bay Area. Your Solvang time is very respectable, so you should be fine on Devil Mountain. As always, be patient in the beginning and don't dawdle at the rest stops. After Diablo and Morgan Territory you should have a nice tail/cross wind blow you all the way over Altamont Pass. Don't forget to cheer on the racers you see on the same course in the Wente Road Race. One of my biggest mistakes is to forget to eat through this entire section since I'm fresh, I'm very familiar with it, and it's not too hard compared with what follows. I've just dug myself a hole that will be very hard to get out of.

And then the ride starts. Next up is Patterson Pass (ohmigod road). There's a false summit called "Religion" (because that's where you get religion) from which you can see the last bit of the climb. It looks much worse than it is, but it can still be a challenge. If the wind is blowing, the corner at the top is known as "Trackstand" because you will come out from the shadow of the hill and be hit by a very strong crosswind while trying to slowly turn uphill and into the wind. Many riders have unwittingly performed a perfect trackstand at the corner.

From there you will soon begin the climb up Mines Road and Mt. Hamilton. Feel free to stock up at the rest stop at the bottom because it can be a long, hot haul up to the lunch stop at the Junction. Stock up again at the Junction because you now need to get all the way over Hamilton and down into San Jose before the next stop on Crother's Road. Refuel as needed at Crother's, but don't leave with too much in your pockets or bottles and don't spend much time there.

Now comes the real test, Sierra Road. No matter what gearing you bring, you will want something lower. From the base to the water stop on the top is about 4 miles, but the meat of it is 3 miles at almost 11%. As a gauge, 30 minutes (6 mph) is a very fast time up Sierra Road after 150 miles; the pros take more than 20 minutes in the Tour of California. Top off at the water stop, and pet the goat. If you have anything left in your legs, Calaveras Road can be a lot of fun. If you are like the rest of the mortals, it will feel like a very long, slow ride down the rollers into Sunol and the final rest stop. One word of warning, be careful of the turn onto Calaveras Road and its wall. I've seen more than one chain break at that corner. Downshift early even though you are flying downhill.

Grab what you need in Sunol, but it's time to finish up. Hopefully you'll make it to Sunol in daylight and don't have to ride down Niles Canyon in the dark. As far as I'm concerned, this is my only goal for the ride. You probably are familiar with the rest, Palomares Canyon, Crow Canyon, and Norris Canyon. Not too hard, but they can be daunting after so many miles. Roll in for the great lasagna dinner and sparkling cider.

Bud_E
04-06-2008, 11:25 AM
It feels like I'm witnessing a conversation between the hard men of Flanders. Great ride description!

CaliFly
04-06-2008, 12:33 PM
That was a great read. Glad your ride went well...hope to do that next year! :beer:

bumperjohn
04-06-2008, 03:39 PM
Great read, thanks a lot! It makes me want to travel out west to ride it next year.

John

sloji
05-27-2008, 10:34 PM
What a great report, 19.3 for 200 miles is incredible. I live in San Luis Obispo and regularly ride the area mostly on recumbents until 4 weeks ago when I bought an Ottrott. My first 85 mile ride I avg 18.7 which was a hard ride but bettered my recumbent times and I was thrilled. Could I do that for 200, sheesh, what an animal is right! I was at the Solvang Double start with two other bentriders on their bikes, one of the riders is a monster and has done a few RAAM's and we went to dinner the night before. Not only was he a fantastic rider but hilarious. Wonder if you saw them out there?

Congrats on the ride!

Louis
05-27-2008, 10:40 PM
My first 85 mile ride I avg 18.7 which was a hard ride but bettered my recumbent times and I was thrilled.


sloji,

Was it the climbing that allowed you to do better on the standard than on the 'bent? I would think that on nearly any mostly flat ride a recumbent would be significantly faster than a standard.

Louis

sloji
05-27-2008, 11:38 PM
Yah, I thought it would too but from here to San Simeon there is 4500 feet of climb...not CLIMB as in mountains but 1-2% long grades punctuated by a few short hills in the 4-6% range. I am faster on the flats by quite a bit on the recumbents but I saw a calculation one time that said since we spend more time climbing even one mile per hour adds up so that it's hard to catch up even at much higher speeds on flats. It's not much of a difference on a course like this 18.2 for the recumbent and 18.7 on the Ottrott. Given that I trained much more on the recumbents and rode the fastest ones out there speaks even more highly of the wedgie. Still, as the wise man said "ride what you like" and I like both platforms. It's a different experience like riding a mtn bike and a road bike, different categories but equally fun.

Oh, let's not forget the body as part of the calculation. I felt strong that day, hydrated well, ate well the night before and during the ride...more than any platform is how we feel that day.