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brians647
02-27-2008, 07:52 PM
Okay, what did I do wrong here?

I've been riding somewhat consistently, and came to an abrubt halt in the name for a five day vacation in Ft. Lauderdale this past weekend. The first few days, I did some stretching and acted like I was an athlete. The last two days, fuggedaboutit! All five days, ate like crap.

So, today, even BEFORE I rode my legs felt crampy. Weird, like they were on the verge of spasming, all in the lower area of the top of the thigh, and on that inner-melon muscle above/inside the knee. Then I went riding (w/out stretching first) and the leg started cramping up; it felt like balls of spasm in that same area. Weird. I stopped a few miles in, stretched a bit, and conitinued on. The spasming persisted.

Now, I'm sitting here, and I feel like somebody took a baseball bat to that muscle above/inside the knee (yes, the spasming was outside that area originally too). What did I do so wrong? Did a lack of stretching really wreak all that havoc? Or is there something else potentially amiss?

And, no I don't think I was short of salt or potassium (I ate everything in site). Bananas not needed! :banana:

Grant McLean
02-27-2008, 07:57 PM
I don't think stretching or lack of it is the problem.

Likely it's a combo of fatigue and dehydration.

http://www.medicinenet.com/muscle_cramps/page2.htm

-g

DarrenCT
02-27-2008, 07:58 PM
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BumbleBeeDave
02-27-2008, 08:00 PM
. . . that you might not think about. You're not only eating different. You're sleeping on a strange mattress that may be too hard or too soft. If you're flying or going by car you're sitting for long periods of time when you may not be used to it--and on a plane these days you may be twisted like a pretzel. I have a really firm mattress at home and have felt like cr@p on vacations before because the hotel mattress was soft as cotton candy, or I was sleeping on a therma-rest pad in a tent. Or you may have slept all night with your leg twisted under you without realizing it. I'd give it three or four days and if it keeps doing the same thing, then start worrying.

BBD

(Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, nor do I play one anywhere except on dates.)

DarrenCT
02-27-2008, 08:04 PM
(Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, nor do I play one anywhere except on dates.)

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brians647
02-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Thanks Grant and BBD. Darren, as usual, I'm left speechless.

Your points are all probably valid, I'm just trying to sort out in which order! I think that the dehydration could be a valid point, but it only occurred in certain regions/muscle groups. The changes of my vacation could be it too, but... man... maybe I'm just getting old? It's soo strange. I've had this tightness before, but not like this. I mean, we didn't go very hard or far today, and just that one muscle above the knee (and some residual stress in the lower thigh) feels like we rode vertical for an hour and a half.

Oh, well. I'm not too worried, just thought it was strange. Thanks for the input!

pdxmech13
02-27-2008, 10:57 PM
more liquid refreshment.


jmoh.

DarrenCT
02-27-2008, 11:21 PM
more liquid refreshment.


jmoh.

exactly what i think.

gatorade / poland springs / coors light

mgm777
02-27-2008, 11:41 PM
My legs get crampy during a ride following a night of drinking. If I drink just a couple of beers the night before a ride, my leg muscles will cramp in the same place you described. Just saying. FWIW.

brians647
02-28-2008, 08:57 AM
My legs get crampy during a ride following a night of drinking. If I drink just a couple of beers the night before a ride, my leg muscles will cramp in the same place you described. Just saying. FWIW.

Good to know. Come to think of it, being on an airplane can dehydrate you, so dehydration is a possibility. M legs are sore this morning and I have my first race this Sunday - yikes! That'll learn me!

Bud_E
02-28-2008, 12:48 PM
When I go out of town, I tend to do way more walking and standing around than normal and the leg muscles aren't used to it - so they get stiff, sore and "crampy". It takes a week or so for the riding to feel good again.

michael white
02-28-2008, 12:51 PM
I get cramps.

I drink water, take electrolytes. Still get cramps.

DarrenCT
02-28-2008, 12:58 PM
My legs get crampy during a ride following a night of drinking. If I drink just a couple of beers the night before a ride, my leg muscles will cramp in the same place you described. Just saying. FWIW.


after drinking a beers, im faster.

ps: is this possible?

saab2000
02-28-2008, 01:04 PM
I had leg cramps once in 1983 when I was 16 and didn't know that you had to drink water or eat anything.

Haven't had a cramp since. I guess I am lucky cuz my training buddy here in Michigan will start to get cramps after about 50 miles of hard riding or even less of really hard riding. I feel like I am starting to just get warmed up.

Difference in how different people process nutrients through their muscles I guess.

saab2000
02-28-2008, 01:05 PM
after drinking a beers, im faster.

ps: is this possible?

No, but everything looks faster going by, so you think you're faster. Been there, done that. :beer:

72gmc
02-28-2008, 01:14 PM
Stretching helps but I don't think it is the root of the problem. I had a similar situation happen last summer during a hot 3-hour ride to my father's house. At the top of a pretty nasty hill, while feeling otherwise no worse than usual, my right calf froze up. I was able to keep pedaling, very slowly and in great pain, until it loosened up enough for me to finish the ride. My leg continued to spasm for the rest of that night. I attributed it then (and still do) to a lousy week of sleep before the ride, not thinking about what I was eating before the ride, and not enough liquid during the ride. I'm now using NUUN tablets in my bottles and trying to be smarter about my food; it hasn't happened since.

brians647
02-28-2008, 02:05 PM
Thanks for the replies.

I hear you GMC. A ridiculously bad diet sound like my vacation mode. I guess I could be paying the price in more places than just the hills!

saab2000
02-28-2008, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the replies.

I hear you GMC. A ridiculously bad diet sound like my vacation mode. I guess I could be paying the price in more places than just the hills!


Proper eating before, during and after plays a huge role. I have found that Hammer Nutrition stuff works well for me in the muscle fatigue thing. Some of their drinks have protein and this might help.

brians647
02-29-2008, 08:42 AM
Thanks Saab. Good stuff.

WadePatton
02-29-2008, 08:57 AM
Proper eating before, during and after plays a huge role. I have found that Hammer Nutrition stuff works well for me in the muscle fatigue thing. Some of their drinks have protein and this might help.

+1

I'm feeling better than ever during and after longish rides. Their product line can be a bit intimidating. Just pick a few things to get started and Hammer ON.

wooly
02-29-2008, 10:06 AM
I frequently got cramps when doing a brick work out when training for tri's. One thing that always helped, besides staying hydrated, was taking Sports Legs. It was recommended by my shop and it really worked. I know there are contradictory thoughts on this type of thing but I tried adding potassium to my diet, drinking more, etc. Sports legs was the only thing that consistently worked. Just my $.02.

mister
02-29-2008, 11:19 AM
after drinking a beers, im faster.


yay for six pack tours...

RudAwkning
02-29-2008, 11:27 AM
after drinking a beers, im faster.

ps: is this possible?

Faster at what? :D

DarrenCT
02-29-2008, 11:28 AM
Faster at what? :D

exactly :)