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maunahaole
02-15-2008, 12:19 PM
What is your opinion?

ti_boi
02-15-2008, 12:23 PM
My favorite beers often have fruit. Number 9 Magic Hat

Not Quite Pale Ale
A beer cloaked in secrecy. An ale whose mysterious and unusual palate will swirl across your tongue and ask more questions than it answers.

A sort of dry, crisp, fruity, refreshing, not-quite pale ale. #9 is really impossible to describe because there's never been anything else quite like it. Our secret ingredient introduces a most unusual aroma which is balanced with residual sweetness.

Not to mention the lemon in a Weisse Beer.

davyt
02-15-2008, 12:26 PM
Long ago, a friend once told me the Pizza Rule, i.e., the rule for pizza toppings and it's, "No fruit, no fish." It applies to beer, too.

davids
02-15-2008, 12:26 PM
No. It is an abomination.

...anyone who says differently probably likes that Raisin D'Etre stuff made by Dogfish Head.

Look, there's drinks with fruit in them. And then there's beer.

DarrenCT
02-15-2008, 12:33 PM
check this

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7718/punkinyi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8051/raisondetrelk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

L84dinr
02-15-2008, 01:03 PM
No!

Anyone remember the CHeers episode where Frasier has a slice of fruit in his glass of beer. He talks about the "taste" etc... then sets the beer down and leaves for the mens room. While he is talking to a man about a horse... The guys at the bar start tossing all kinds of junk in his glass of fruited beer. Cigarettes, car keys... Then the guys here the door open and "grab" all the junk out of Frasiers' beer. Frasier walks to the bar and takes a big drink, smacks his lips and states, "uhmm good taste"

Not verbatim but still funny thinking about it.

Then funniest bit was the electrified mailman.

"Dance Mailman!"

bcm119
02-15-2008, 01:06 PM
Fruit added for flavor after fermentation is an abomination. Fruity flavors achieved without actually adding fruit are fine-- like in Flanders reds. if you like fruity beers, try a Duchesse de Bourgogne, it has an incredibly complex fruit/sour/tart flavor without actually using fruit: they use special yeast strains, oak barrel aging and blending of new/aged beer. Thats good brewing; adding apricot flavor to a mediocre pale ale (magic hat 9) is cheating, imho.

if you have to add fruit to enjoy your beer, either the beer sucks to begin with, you don't really like beer, or both... :)

ti_boi
02-15-2008, 01:17 PM
Aw come on now...............Magic Hat make a nice beer.......

cork sniffer



A derogatory term used to describe a person that tends to over analyze physical properties that may not even be relevant.

These people seem to split hairs on details and are usually just perceived as windbags who just like to hear themselves speak.

The implied insult of the word, is that the corksniffer, is a lab worker that micro analyzes everything to the extreme, but fails to see the big picture.

The term probably originated in the wine industry or the wine connoisseur pastime to describe people that inaccurately believe they can tell the quality of a wine by sniffing the cork.

This term is very commonly used in the discussion pages of popular online forums dealing with guitars, in which the cork sniffers are the ones that argue and debate over the subtleties of various factors that contribute to tone, such as wood types used, guitar picup types, body shapes, finishing methods, manufacturing process etc.
The term is generally used to imply that these very people don't really have any experience with the actual playing of the instruments, but they are simply analyzing or evaluating tone based on theory or science, instead of just listening.

Kevan
02-15-2008, 01:24 PM
adding lime, making a bad beer even worse.

Least that's how I interpreted this thread.

frogpirate
02-15-2008, 01:28 PM
McMinamens Ruby Red. 'nuff said.

Ozz
02-15-2008, 01:33 PM
I don't put fruit in my beer....

I don't care what other people do....

bcm119
02-15-2008, 01:36 PM
Aw come on now...............Magic Hat make a nice beer.......freakin' cork sniffers.
Yeah, their Blind Faith IPA was good in the mid 90's. ;)

I ain't no cork sniffer. I'd tip a few Budweisers with you if thats what you like- but I'm also a beer enthusiast on my own time. I know good beer and have my opinions about it (above) but the bottom line is that its a drink to be enjoyed in social settings, and the last thing any beer drinkers should be doing is arguing/insulting each other over their tastes. So my point is, try the Duchesse- I bet you'd like it.

As to "cork sniffers", your comment reminds me of the people who ask me why I'd pay thousands for a bike-- its just a bike, right? Its got 2 wheels? Everyone has their passions.

BURCH
02-15-2008, 01:38 PM
Dennis Leary said it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roky52aR02E) best:

Cranberry Ale....Cranberries and beer do not go together. Ones for bladder infections and the other is for getting drunk...


Same goes for coffee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkg0WLj7TJ8)

goonster
02-15-2008, 01:50 PM
Fruit is cool and is safe to embrace once you break through the proto-snob barrier. :)

True fruit lambics (I'm not really including Lindemans here) almost need fruit as a third element to help balance the funk and acidity. I think fruit also does well in some of the huge imperial stouts around.

I'd had a number of nasty pumpkin beers, and had almost given up on the style, but the Weyerbacher is pretty darn good. Dan can put pumpkin in my beer any time!

Germans squawk about their Reinheitsgebot all the time (they should stop, and actually learn more about beer), and then mix the stuff with cheap raspberry syrup, lemonade and articially flavored woodruff concoctions. That I am not into, but they've been doing it for a very long time, so who am I to argue?

Next Saturday I will probably judge this category at a big homebrew competition, and I'll let you know how they do.

http://www.thegreyhorse.co.uk/images/LiefmansKriek.JPG

Long ago, a friend once told me the Pizza Rule, i.e., the rule for pizza toppings and it's, "No fruit, no fish." It applies to beer, too.

Your friend is wrong on both counts!

Let's forget for a moment that Hawaiian pizza is delicious, and that arguably the one true Pizza has tomato sauce, anchovies and no effing cheese on it.

One of my three main homebrewing goals this year is to make a true oyster stout, kind of like the absolutely fantastic original Yards Love Stout, before they changed the recipe.

I also hope to brew a batch of strong ale with local wild raspberries. Anybody bishing in this thread won't get any. I'm taking names!

jsfoster
02-15-2008, 01:50 PM
a true shandy is very good on a summer afternoon.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandy

-Jon

davids
02-15-2008, 02:08 PM
a true shandy is very good on a summer afternoon.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandy

-JonThe exception that proves the rule!
...I must admit, that expression makes no sense whatsoever to me. So let's try this:

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

...that feels better.

OK, no fruit in beer, ever. Except for shandy. Which is a great goodness, atmo.

ti_boi
02-15-2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah, their Blind Faith IPA was good in the mid 90's. ;)

I ain't no cork sniffer. I'd tip a few Budweisers with you if thats what you like- but I'm also a beer enthusiast on my own time. I know good beer and have my opinions about it (above) but the bottom line is that its a drink to be enjoyed in social settings, and the last thing any beer drinkers should be doing is arguing/insulting each other over their tastes. So my point is, try the Duchesse- I bet you'd like it.

As to "cork sniffers", your comment reminds me of the people who ask me why I'd pay thousands for a bike-- its just a bike, right? Its got 2 wheels? Everyone has their passions.


I hear ya....I just like fruit...and I like beer.....dammit. :rolleyes:

Dekonick
02-15-2008, 02:50 PM
Brewing WITH fruit is a style as old as any -

I lived outside of Brussels for years and found the local swill quite yummy - as long as you don't think about how they brew it...

A dive of a bar ~200 meters from my abode made some of the absolute best Geuze - their Kriek was also superb. The basement brewery was NASTY and would probably violate every health regulation in the US, but thats why the lambic yeast thrived there.

Now - a lime in a beer tells me that you are trying to make a beer that tastes like water have flavor...sometimes thats OK - such as on a beach, in a foreign land, nursing a hangover...

or when you are under 25. :p

Its all good - as long as it isn't made with corn or rice! (Bud comes to mind...)