Decode this serial #...

[marc180]

What would a serial # of CC-50-1448 mean? Basically, what does the CC refer to?

[Pete Serotta]

cc 50 is a 5o cm (effective seat tune center to center)

[H.Frank Beshear]

What would a serial # of CC-50-1448 mean? Basically, what does the CC refer to?

If it's a Serotta I think that CC referred to Colorado Concept tubing, but I could be wrong.

[marc180]

Is CC steel or Ti?

[Mr. Butterworth]

I believe this serial number means that it's a custom bike, nominal size 50cm from the late nineties. Could have been either a lugged steel bike or a Ti bike.

[Blastinbob]

Does CC = custom colorado III ?

[dirtdigger88]

both of the serial numbers I have access to are

C- Ti- XXXXXXXX

both are ti bikes


Jason

[marc180]

any clue what the sticker on the downtube should look like? the one that says the material?

im buying a "gently used" one and I'm skeptical about the frameset since the owner doesn't seem to know much about this frame. i'm meeting the guy tonight.

what is a fair price for a late 90s Ti frame?

[David Kirk]

CC = Custom Colorado.

Dave

[marc180]

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[marc180]

I'm 150 lbs, Cat 4 racer (not planning on racing this frame), and I like to climb.

I hate noodly frames...I want responsive. My other bike is a CAAD8 cannondale w/ full carbon fork.

[dave thompson]

I'm 150 lbs, Cat 4 racer (not planning on racing this frame), and I like to climb.

I hate noodly frames...I want responsive. My other bike is a CAAD8 cannondale w/ full carbon fork.
Serotta Ti bikes aren't referred to as 'noodly'. Praise for this model has been universally excellent.

[Viper]

What would a serial # of CC-50-1448 mean? Basically, what does the CC refer to?

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[Ti Designs]

I'm 150 lbs, Cat 4 racer (not planning on racing this frame), and I like to climb.

I hate noodly frames...I want responsive. My other bike is a CAAD8 cannondale w/ full carbon fork.

It's a custom, it all depends on which tubes they used. They have a 1.65" titanium sewer pipe they could put in as the down tube, I doubt any 150 pound cat 4 is going to be squishing that around much...

[slowgoing]

I don't think it's a custom. I think it's a stock Serotta Ti, size 50.

All of the Serotta serial number I have seen have two letters followed by two numbers followed by four numbers. The two letters indicate a stock size. AS for Atlanta, CS for CSI, CO for CIII, TI for Legend. The first two numbers indicate the size. I believe the last four numbers indicate what number in that model line the bike is, regardless of size. So, AS 56-1925 would indicate a stock size 56 Atlanta, which was the 1925th Atlanta built.

The custom frames I have seen have a C before the other two letters, like Jason indicates above. I have personally seen a custom Atlanta with a serial number beginning with C AS, a custom CIII with C CO and a custom CSI with a C CS. And the C TI that Jason identifies above. So someone who has a stock size 50 Ti frame should be able to tell you how it rides. Maybe someone here can find a geometry chart for a stock size 50.

Edit - Whoops! Didn't see Dave Kirk's post that it was "custom colorado."

[Hardlyrob]

CC = Custom Colorado.

Dave

Um... the guy was there at the time.

Serotta's naming convention puts an extra C in front of the frame abbreviation for custom frames. CCS = custom CSI; CC= custom colorado. The second set of numbers is the seat tube size, and the last is the serial number for frames in that model in that size (I think).

So if all that's right this is a custom Colorado with a 50cm seat tube and is the 1,448th 50 cm Colorado made (or could be the 1,448th Colorado, but I think it is the former).

Rob

[David Kirk]

Um... the guy was there at the time.

Serotta's naming convention puts an extra C in front of the frame abbreviation for custom frames. CCS = custom CSI; CC= custom colorado. The second set of numbers is the seat tube size, and the last is the serial number for frames in that model in that size (I think).

So if all that's right this is a custom Colorado with a 50cm seat tube and is the 1,448th 50 cm Colorado made (or could be the 1,448th Colorado, but I think it is the former).

Rob

close I think.

The last number is sequential for the model regardless of year.

Dave

[97CSI]

So my CSI with CS 54 937 is the 937th 54cm CSI built?

Also has a 25th Anniversary year, which I thought was '98. However, in the Road Bike Action article on about 7-11 bikes it states that Serotta began in 1972, which would make it a '97. Which is correct?

[Birddog]

So my CSI with CS 54 937 is the 937th 54cm CSI built?
Not the way I understand it. Your CSi is the 937th built irrespective of size.

Birddog

[David Kirk]

Not the way I understand it. Your CSi is the 937th built irrespective of size.

Birddog


Bingo!

Dave

[97CSI]

Not the way I understand it. Your CSi is the 937th built irrespective of size. BirddogThanks. Got any idea which was the 25th Anniversary year?

[dave thompson]

Thanks. Got any idea which was the 25th Anniversary year?
I have a 1992 catalog, labeled as the 20th Anniversary, so I would think 1997 would be the 25th.

[Birddog]

I have a 1992 catalog, labeled as the 20th Anniversary, so I would think 1997 would be the 25th.
I believe Dave is correct, I have an Atlanta that has labels indicating 25th Anniversary year that I was told was a 97.
I also have a CSi S# 224 which is a '96, that coincidentally, I bought from Dave T. Amazing I know, but it WASN'T his size.

Birddog