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Acotts
01-24-2008, 01:49 PM
Just putting a bit of humour into a tragedy. I had a thought. If this needs to be locked due to bad taste, then so be it. :D

Here we go:

Heath Ledger was found by his dead from a drug OD by his personal massuese, who then called an Olsen twin for advice. ***?

Now you gotta be a pretty high roller for these odd peices to fall into place. This could NEVER, EVER happen to Joe Normal.

As I was thinking, there are some others. Especially in the Kennedy family. Such as playing football on skis in Aspen, or crashing your plane on route to Nantucket. Mr Middle class doesn't have to worry to much about these either.

Has anyone ever been crushed by their own gold?


Keep it clean boys.
:beer:

sg8357
01-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Dying surrounded by hirelings and courtiers, that is a lonely way to go.

Charles Foster Kane comes to mind.

shinomaster
01-24-2008, 02:18 PM
I hope to be smothered by French actresses.

superunleaded
01-24-2008, 02:37 PM
This could NEVER, EVER happen to Joe Normal.


it happens all the time not only to the elites. we just don't hear about it since they're nobody. the media just don't put too much into it when it happens to an unknown person.

Acotts
01-24-2008, 02:49 PM
it happens all the time not only to the elites. we just don't hear about it since they're nobody. the media just don't put too much into it when it happens to an unknown person.

I dont know dude...you are sounding far too reasonable for this thread.

Louis
01-24-2008, 03:21 PM
I hope to be smothered by French actresses.

Yesterday I was wandering around Park City, UT checking out the beautiful people in town for Sundance. Looked to me like there were plenty of potential smotherers about. Very nice stuff. In that company I felt like quite the Midwestern hayseed...

Louis

David Kirk
01-24-2008, 03:27 PM
I'd kill to die like that.

Dave

Viper
01-24-2008, 03:34 PM
I suspect the massage therapist walks in, sees a nude body with bottles of pills and drugs everywhere. The therapist freezes, freaks and calls someone other than the Fuzz cause this scene is wacked, ugly and filled with drugs. The Olsen chica tells the massage therapist to, "Wait, I'll send my security people up to see what's going on." This is code for the security dudes to 'clean' the room of drugs which don't have labels on the bottle etc atmo.

Thing is, whatever drugs he was on will be found in his system. He didn't die from pneumonia, that would've been ruled as a cause of death already, if it were the case.

Science will reveal the facts. Bizarre that an Olsen chica some 3K miles away in CA gets two phone calls before 911. :confused:

Acotts
01-24-2008, 03:49 PM
I suspect the massage therapist walks in, sees a nude body with bottles of pills and drugs everywhere. The therapist freezes, freaks and calls someone other than the Fuzz cause this scene is wacked, ugly and filled with drugs. The Olsen chica tells the massage therapist to, "Wait, I'll send my security people up to see what's going on." This is code for the security dudes to 'clean' the room of drugs which don't have labels on the bottle etc atmo.

Thing is, whatever drugs he was on will be found in his system. He didn't die from pneumonia, that would've been ruled as a cause of death already, if it were the case.

Science will reveal the facts. Bizarre that an Olsen chica some 3K miles away in CA gets two phone calls before 911. :confused:

Thats what I am talking aboot! Normal folks dont get creepy billionaire twins to send in cleaning crews. We are found half-naked on the toilet with vomit on our undies.

Viper
01-24-2008, 03:59 PM
Thats what I am talking aboot! Normal folks dont get creepy billionaire twins to send in cleaning crews. We are found half-naked on the toilet with vomit on our undies.

Wanna have a pact? I'll be your pron wingman etc, I will race over to your house when you OD and make a clean sweep of all your pron and Bee Gees albums. Nobody has to know.

Acotts
01-24-2008, 04:04 PM
I am pretty sure there is a No Death Pact rule here on the the Serotta Forums. Otherwise I would.

We done want to get Serotta Pete mad.

Fixed
01-24-2008, 04:06 PM
flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo:


If I cannot move heaven
I will raise hell
cheers

Viper
01-24-2008, 04:08 PM
I am pretty sure there is a No Death Pact rule here on the the Serotta Forums. Otherwise I would.

We done want to get Serotta Pete mad.

Can I have the Bee Gees vinyl?

Grant McLean
01-24-2008, 04:08 PM
I suspect the massage therapist walks in, sees a nude body with bottles of pills and drugs everywhere. The therapist freezes, freaks and calls someone other than the Fuzz cause this scene is wacked, ugly and filled with drugs. The Olsen chica tells the massage therapist to, "Wait, I'll send my security people up to see what's going on." This is code for the security dudes to 'clean' the room of drugs which don't have labels on the bottle etc atmo.

Thing is, whatever drugs he was on will be found in his system. He didn't die from pneumonia, that would've been ruled as a cause of death already, if it were the case.

Science will reveal the facts. Bizarre that an Olsen chica some 3K miles away in CA gets two phone calls before 911. :confused:

DUDE.... you're seriously in Nancy Grace territory.


http://tv.popcrunch.com/nancy-grace-heath-ledger-death-possible-overdose-video/

Slowly step away from the TV... that's it... come on' back... go for a ride...

-g

cmg
01-24-2008, 04:16 PM
how many people died in New York on the same day? how many got reported on the news?

Acotts
01-24-2008, 04:25 PM
how many people died in New York on the same day? how many got reported on the news?

yeah, but the others were so...yaawwwnnnn

...pedestrian.

Flat Out
01-24-2008, 08:40 PM
I've kinda always been jealous of guys who have the opportunity to die piloting an F1 car flat out through Eau Rougue at Spa.

Now that's a way to go.

Fixed
01-24-2008, 08:53 PM
detur pulchriori
cheers imho

rounder
01-24-2008, 10:26 PM
I've kinda always been jealous of guys who have the opportunity to die piloting and F1 car flat out through Eau Rougue at Spa.

Now that's a way to go.

I respect guys like Jim Clark who are the best there is and know the limits of the car and what they are capable of, and crash and die when something unforseeable to them goes wrong. I have a harder time understanding why someone who, in many other ways may be brilliant, crashes and dies including maybe others because they were out for kicks and didn't know what they were doing.

torquer
01-25-2008, 10:42 AM
Heath Ledger was found by his dead from a drug OD by his personal massuese, who then called an Olsen twin for advice. ***?


The massuese, according to this morning's NYTimes, may have been thinking about her own potential problem: she wasn't licensed, and the unlicensed practice of massage is a felony in NYS. I'll have to borrow somebody's Post to get the full story.

If Rudy was still mayor you could bet that this scourge would have been eliminated. (Unlicensed massage, that is, not the Post.)

Viper
01-30-2008, 05:33 PM
Not shocked and not naive here. Reports coming in that Michelle Williams left Heath and was working for sole custody and why? He was a junkie, alcohol, cocaine, heroin and assorted pills. It was clear to the human eyes the young man had a serious drug problem:


http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2008/01/30/upi_newstrack_entertainment_news/4530/

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,23136608-5015787,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/30/wledger230.xml

fiamme red
01-30-2008, 05:39 PM
Gold poisoning.

http://www.trifter.com/Practical-Travel/World-Cuisine/Nine-Unlikely-Ways-to-Literally-Munch-Taste-and-Consume-Gold.62178

Acotts
01-30-2008, 06:26 PM
Here is one for you:

Jean Bugatti crashed the Typ 57 C Tank he was test-driving the same car that had just recently won the 24-hour race at Le Mans. At more than 200 km/h, he had to swerve to avoid hitting a bicyclist coming out of a country lane. He lost control of the car, hit a tree, and died on the spot. At the time of his tragic death, Jean Bugatti was only 30 years old.

Jean Bugatti died driving a Bugatti at 130 MPH. Avoiding a cyclist no less.
Now that takes money and class....

Kevan
01-30-2008, 06:36 PM
there won't be any.

MarleyMon
01-30-2008, 07:20 PM
Viper - you linked 3 different articles that all quote the same source -
US Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/heath_ledger_refused_to_get_out_of_car_to_enter_re hab_in_2006)
Why not go straight to the authoritative primary (anonymous) source?
It is their EXCLUSIVE!

ti_boi
02-06-2008, 10:40 AM
NEW YORK -- The medical examiner has concluded that actor Heath Ledger's death was an accident, and the result of the abuse of prescription medications.

The medical examiner released results of the toxicology report Wednesday, saying Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of six drugs, including pain killers, sleeping pills, and anti-anxiety drugs.

catulle
02-06-2008, 10:50 AM
Here old rich men die from Viagra all the time. I feel sorry for the poor young girls that have to deal with it; can you imagine?

Grant McLean
02-06-2008, 10:53 AM
I feel sorry for the poor young girls that have to deal with it; can you imagine?

the death, or the effects of Viagra?

:)

-g

Viper
02-06-2008, 11:11 AM
NEW YORK -- The medical examiner has concluded that actor Heath Ledger's death was an accident, and the result of the abuse of prescription medications.

The medical examiner released results of the toxicology report Wednesday, saying Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of six drugs, including pain killers, sleeping pills, and anti-anxiety drugs.

Prescriptive or non, he overdosed on drugs and he's dead. Drugs didn't kill Heath Ledger, Heath Ledger killed Heath Ledger. Same for Anna Nicole and the rest who die in that fashion.

Fixed
02-06-2008, 11:17 AM
Prescriptive or non, he overdosed on drugs and he's dead. Drugs didn't kill Heath Ledger, Heath Ledger killed Heath Ledger. Same for Anna Nicole and the rest who die in that fashion.
+1 pain killed him imho

saab2000
02-06-2008, 11:18 AM
Prescriptive or non, he overdosed on drugs and he's dead. Drugs didn't kill Heath Ledger, Heath Ledger killed Heath Ledger. Same for Anna Nicole and the rest who die in that fashion.

The multi-national pharmaceutical companies which push drugs for every imaginable malady bear partial responsibility.

Turn on the TV sometime or open up any newspaper or magazine and they are pushing something heavily. And they push doctors hard to prescribe their meds.

Old fashioned, but "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" has never been more appropriate IMHO.

Viper
02-06-2008, 11:21 AM
+1 pain killed him imho

Hiding and numbing the pain with these killed him = acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine atmo.

He is dead. His daughter is alive. Did he 'replace' heroin and cocaine for prescribed smack?

When I die, my blood will be clean and so will my conscience.

Viper
02-06-2008, 11:23 AM
The multi-national pharmaceutical companies which push drugs for every imaginable malady bear partial responsibility.

Turn on the TV sometime or open up any newspaper or magazine and they are pushing something heavily. And they push doctors hard to prescribe their meds.

Old fashioned, but "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" has never been more appropriate IMHO.

Huge fan of personal accountablity here. Heath took the drugs, nobody shoved them down his throat. I don't blame Merck or Smith Klein Beacham etc. Man makes drugs. Man has the ability to ingest them. Man overdoses and dies. Britney Spears will be dead soon if she doesn't stop taking drugs. And it'll be her fault and nobody else's.

saab2000
02-06-2008, 11:29 AM
Huge fan of personal accountablity here. Heath took the drugs, nobody shoved them down his throat. I don't blame Merck or Smith Klein Beacham etc. Man makes drugs. Man has the ability to ingest them. Man overdoses and dies.

I am a huge fan of personal accountability as well. But the companies create 'illnesses' and then created drugs for those illnesses.

Personally I don't like taking anything stronger than a Tylenol and I am with you on the personal responsibility thing.

But let's be honest about the motivation of the pharma industries motivation - massive profit. My folks both take an outrageous cocktail of drugs every day for things which in my opinion could be at the very least reduced through things other than drugs. Exercise and proper diet come to mind.

Yes, Heath Ledger took whatever he took of his own accord. But many people are 'advised' professionally to take this or that drug to help this or that problem, real or imaginary. And the pushy advertising of the pharmaceutical industry and their ties with doctors has me at least quite suspicious of their motivation. Profit before ethics? Hmmm.....

Fixed
02-06-2008, 12:24 PM
Hiding and numbing the pain with these killed him = acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine atmo.

He is dead. His daughter is alive. Did he 'replace' heroin and cocaine for prescribed smack?

When I die, my blood will be clean and so will my conscience.

"Mors ultima linea rerum est"
cheers




(Death is everything's final limit)

Viper
02-06-2008, 12:27 PM
I am a huge fan of personal accountability as well. But the companies create 'illnesses' and then created drugs for those illnesses.

Personally I don't like taking anything stronger than a Tylenol and I am with you on the personal responsibility thing.

But let's be honest about the motivation of the pharma industries motivation - massive profit. My folks both take an outrageous cocktail of drugs every day for things which in my opinion could be at the very least reduced through things other than drugs. Exercise and proper diet come to mind.

Yes, Heath Ledger took whatever he took of his own accord. But many people are 'advised' professionally to take this or that drug to help this or that problem, real or imaginary. And the pushy advertising of the pharmaceutical industry and their ties with doctors has me at least quite suspicious of their motivation. Profit before ethics? Hmmm.....

'The Shadow Box' by John R. Maxim is a good read. I grabbed it in JFK enroute to SF back in 1997. Murder/mystery...revolves around pharma industry. Neat, good book atmo:

http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Box-John-R-Maxim/dp/0380786680

malcolm
02-06-2008, 12:35 PM
Saab, brother I'll have to disagree here. The drugs the companies push are not the ones that kill young folks. They die from various narcotics and benzodiazipines all of which are fairly cheap and recieve little advertising budget. The companies push somatostatins and various 2-3$/pill things that they make a killing on. I don't feel drug companies should be allowed to advertise perscription drugs. I know many think this opens a dialogue with their doctor, but mostly it encourages people to look for a fix in a pill. I've been in emergency medicine for 20 years same ED 13 and the number of people I see that are looking to fix a broken life with a visit to a doctor and a prescription increases every year. 24 hour pseudo news is also to blame they have people so paranoid they rush to the ED as soon as they develop fever or if they throw up one time. The people that frequent this board and exercise regularly are not the norm at least in the population I deal with. Don't even get me started on prescription drug addicts and the lengths they will go to get meds, and best of all we (doctors) created a majority of them. It is easier to give the lortab prescription than risk a bad patient satisfaction survey and have the admistrators breathing down your neck and threatening your income.
As for Heath, I too beleive in personal responsibiltiy, but it is much more complicated than that. A destructive life style is insidious and sneaks up on you and particularly if you have the right personality many times you are dead before you fully realize how screwed up you are. Remember the life style of the rich and famous does little to enhance perspective taking or ability to perceive consequences. Heath and his family deserve sympathy, just like the kid down the street you never heard of that died in a very similar fashion or some bum in an alley that died drunk. If a wasted human life isn't worth our sympathy what is. Be thankful you have yours and your friends have theirs and hopefully the sense to protect it.

MarleyMon
02-06-2008, 12:47 PM
When I die, my blood will be clean and so will my conscience.
I'm sure there will be a parade.

saab2000
02-06-2008, 12:54 PM
When I left the US in my late teens I don't recall the onslaught of drug advertising that greeted me upon my return in my late 30's. I was shocked to see all the new illnesses and conditions they had come up with and the humorous (to me at least) acronyms they used to legitimise it as if everyone talks about ED and RLS and whatever else they come up with when out with the guys grunting around in the mountains or gals at a garden luncheon. The TV commercials make me cringe. Many of the things they make drugs to treat are the result, pure and simple, of choices people make regarding diet and lifestyle.

I am not in the medical profession, but as an observer of life I am still suspicious of the pharmaceutical companies even though some of them have their homes in my beloved Switzerland.

I know they have done many great things and we probably wouldn't be able to moan about Lance Armstrong and his outrageous performances in the TdF without the life-saving drugs he took while fighting cancer. Instead we would be lament the loss of a great talent at too young an age.

As with anything, there needs to be a balance.

Viper
02-06-2008, 01:01 PM
I'm sure there will be a parade.

Better yet, I plan on a parade while still living. Of course you're invited.

Blue Jays
02-06-2008, 01:02 PM
I would totally attend a parade for a fellow cyclist. That would be very cool.

Viper
02-06-2008, 01:05 PM
I would totally attend a parade for a fellow cyclist. That would be very cool.

We can have a parade this summer. Let's call it a century with a peleton atmo. There's a few cats out there I'd like to show that yes, the north shore of Long Island has tons of serious .5 mile climbs atmo atmo.

MarleyMon
02-06-2008, 01:15 PM
Better yet, I plan on a parade while still living. Of course you're invited.
Will it be to celebrate your smug self-righteousness?
If so, I must gently decline your invitation. :rolleyes:

Heath and his family deserve sympathy, just like the kid down the street you never heard of that died in a very similar fashion or some bum in an alley that died drunk. If a wasted human life isn't worth our sympathy what is. Be thankful you have yours and your friends have theirs and hopefully the sense to protect it.
This is good, thanks.

BumbleBeeDave
02-06-2008, 01:36 PM
Better yet, I plan on a parade while still living. Of course you're invited.

. . . throwing free bacon to spectators from the throne on your float?

BBD

ti_boi
02-06-2008, 01:47 PM
"Mors ultima linea rerum est"
cheers




(Death is everything's final limit)


Awesome....my new sig.

Viper
02-06-2008, 04:11 PM
So 6 drugs in his system. Question to the medical folks, how long do those drugs stay in your system? Did he do all six in one hour, one day, three days?

ti_boi
02-06-2008, 05:00 PM
We remain humble as parents and a family, among millions of people worldwide who may have suffered the tragic loss of a child. Few can understand the hollow, wrenching, and enduring agony parents silently suffer when a child predeceases them. Today's results put an end to speculation, but our son's beautiful spirit and enduring memory will forever remain in our hearts.

While no medications were taken in excess, we learned today the combination of doctor-prescribed drugs proved lethal for our boy. Heath's accidental death serves as a caution to the hidden dangers of combining prescription medication, even at low dosage.

Our family enjoyed an extremely happy two week visit with Heath just prior to the New Year. Those recent precious days will stay with us forever. We as a family feel privileged to have some of his amazing magic moments captured in film. To most of the world Heath was an actor of immeasurable talent and promise. To those who knew him personally, Heath was a consummate artist whose passions also included photography, music, chess and directing. We knew Heath as a loving father, as our devoted son, and as a loyal and generous brother and friend.

We treasure our beautiful granddaughter Matilda (to our dear Michelle) as well as an unbelievably wonderful network of close friends, forever, around the world. Families rarely experience the uplifting, warm and massive outpouring of grief and support as have we, from every corner of the planet. This has deeply and profoundly touched our hearts and lives. We are eternally grateful.

At this moment we respectfully request the worldwide media allow us time to grieve privately, without the intrusions associated with press and photography.