Who's going to the NAHBS?

[Volant]

Anything a person should NOT miss while in Portland (besides the show)?

[manet]

a paterek Manual

[e-RICHIE]

http://handmadebicycleshow.com/2008/

[RABikes2]

http://handmadebicycleshow.com/2008/
I drooled on my keyboard ... wish I was going. Take pics and post, PLEASE!!
RA

[e-RICHIE]

I drooled on my keyboard ... wish I was going. Take pics and post, PLEASE!!
RA
i made the leap (http://willyoumaketheleap.com/).
see it at nahbsmo atmo.

[Ginger]

I'll be there too...looking forward to all sorts of gluten free goodness in the restaurants of Portland...and lots of sexy bikes...
Other than that...yeah...things to see and do in Portland? Suggestions? Hints?

[taz-t]

Will be there Thurs afternoon through Sunday.

did anybody finalize plans for a forum get together?

- taz

[zank]

I get into Portland Friday night (6-ish I think), so it looks like I'll miss Friday. Saturday will be a full day and then I hope to get over there Sunday morning before I need to fly out. I'm psyched!

[e-RICHIE]

I get into Portland Friday night (6-ish I think), so it looks like I'll miss Friday. Saturday will be a full day and then I hope to get over there Sunday morning before I need to fly out. I'm psyched!
could you spend a moment at my island?
i have this pain in my stomach that never
leaves atmo.

[zank]

lay off the beans.

[e-RICHIE]

lay off the beans.
mebbe you should go to med school atmo!

[zank]

I have a calling...atzo

[RABikes2]

i have this pain in my stomach that never
leaves atmo.
It's the Twizzler's ... you need to send your remaining stash to me immediately. It'll solve the problemo. atmo
RA

[WadePatton]

I have a calling...atzo

Portland=bikes, beers, and well, there's only 24 hours in a day...atwo

[stevep]

could you spend a moment at my island?
i have this pain in my stomach that never
leaves atmo.


zanc, you should remove the thing that makes him build so slow....
his cable connection

his wait would be down to 10 days

atspo

[SoCalSteve]

Again, Sherry and I will not be able to attend. We made plans a year ago to ride at the Tour de Palm Springs, which is the same weekend...

One day maybe I will get a chance to meet Dave Kirk, Richard Sachs, etc...But for now, it will just have to be via e-mail and telephone calls.

I hope everyone attending has an amazing time and that the Forumite dinner on Saturday night will be as big a success as it was last year in San Jose!

Steve

[e-RICHIE]

zanc, you should remove the thing that makes him build so slow....
his cable connection

his wait would be down to 10 days

atspo
you should be a sticky atmo.
ps say hi to john ireland and basil withropshire
back in basingstoke upon trent atmo.

[Volant]

Portland=bikes, beers, and well, there's only 24 hours in a day...atwo

...and that's why there's 24 cans in a case.

[shinomaster]

I'm dying. I might have to work on Saturday.

[Jack Brunk]

I'll be arriving Thursday PM and leaving Monday AM. I'm looking forward to meeting a big bunch of really great people.

[coylifut]

the only thing that's changed since the last time we had this discussion is I've discovered a new restuarant.

not cheap by portland standards, but very, very good.


http://www.lovelyhulahands.com/

and everyone is talking up Albina Press for coffee

http://www.portlandfoodanddrink.com/?p=49

[Ginger]

I'll have to repost my list of restaurants who can deal with gluten free diners...or I can just meet y'all after dinner. :)

[Ginger]

I'd think that Zank and co will be hanging out at
The Belgian Embassy

http://www.pfmenus.com/?p=135

[manet]

I'd think that Zank and co will be hanging out at
The Belgian Embassy



.. and belgium girls in bikinis:

[DarrenCT]

...and that's why there's 24 cans in a case.

i think u r on to something atmo

ps: have u ever did the 1 beer an hour thing?

[nicrump]

i made the leap (http://willyoumaketheleap.com/).
see it at nahbsmo atmo.

no freakn way

[e-RICHIE]

no freakn way
waymo atmo.
they said it would never happen.
but it did.

[coylifut]

waymo atmo.
they said it would never happen.
but it did.

is that stuff made in the US?

[fiamme red]

waymo atmo.
they said it would never happen.
but it did.Things have come full circle.

1997: SRAM buys Sachs
2008: Sachs buys SRAM

[zank]

Did you hear that?

That was the sound of 6 million jaws just hitting the floor.

[David Kirk]

Did you hear that?

That was the sound of 6 million jaws just hitting the floor.

Times change and it's time for a change.

Dave

[e-RICHIE]

you guys can laff all you wantmo atmo.
i made the leap.

[shinomaster]

Do those of you in the know, think that the lectures and seminars would be interesting to a dolt like me?

[zank]

SRAM: today
Campagnolo: yesterday
Shimano: neverday

[jerk]

you guys can laff all you wantmo atmo.
i made the leap.


sorta funny. our pal storino gets the sack; probably for doing the right thing in regards to pushing for campy to exhibit at nambla among other fool-hardy decisions that could actually drive up campy sales in the united states, vincenza says no and campy won't even be on e-richie's bikes in his own booth.

mp yo-

heard campy was sending the lady who handles the big us distributor (all three of them) accounts to run campagnolo usa. looks like a lot of people will be making the leap imho bro.



jerk

[e-RICHIE]

looks like a lot of people will be making the leap imho bro.



jerk
get online.
wait - i already ammo atmo.

[David Kirk]

sorta funny. our pal storino gets the sack; probably for doing the right thing in regards to pushing for campy to exhibit at nambla among other fool-hardy decisions that could actually drive up campy sales in the united states, vincenza says no and campy won't even be on e-richie's bikes in his own booth.

mp yo-

heard campy was sending the lady who handles the big us distributor (all three of them) accounts to run campagnolo usa. looks like a lot of people will be making the leap imho bro.



jerk

One needs to learn to "never ***** where you eat".

Dave

[jerk]

get online.
wait - i already ammo atmo.


could you repeat the question?

jerk

[e-RICHIE]

One needs to learn to "never ***** where you eat".

Dave
i live on san pellegrino and altoids so
it always smells great heremo atmo.

[shinomaster]

i live on san pellegrino and altoids so
it always smells great heremo atmo.


What would the coach think?

[stevep]

sorta funny. our pal storino gets the sack; probably for doing the right thing in regards to pushing for campy to exhibit at nambla among other fool-hardy decisions that could actually drive up campy sales in the united states, vincenza says no and campy won't even be on e-richie's bikes in his own booth.

mp yo-

heard campy was sending the lady who handles the big us distributor (all three of them) accounts to run campagnolo usa. looks like a lot of people will be making the leap imho bro.



jerk

at what point in the last 40 years did you guys think they were not idiots?

i mean business wise. not qc or stuff like that.

storino was ok. the rest have been beyond incompetent...
ps im still trying to find parts for the first version clipless pedals...
once i get the fork lift into the basement to lift them to the workbench...


sent on my slick dial up in the mid 80s

[J.Greene]

Geez SteveP,

ultra torqued today?

JG

at what point in the last 40 years did you guys think they were not idiots?

i mean business wise. not qc or stuff like that.

storino was ok. the rest have been beyond incompetent...
ps im still trying to find parts for the first version clipless pedals...
once i get the fork lift into the basement to lift them to the workbench...


sent on my slick dial up in the mid 80s

[manet]

for sale:

one refund.

[nicrump]

waymo atmo.
they said it would never happen.
but it did.

and you will attend the carbon seminar atmesp

[jerk]

at what point in the last 40 years did you guys think they were not idiots?

i mean business wise. not qc or stuff like that.

storino was ok. the rest have been beyond incompetent...
ps im still trying to find parts for the first version clipless pedals...
once i get the fork lift into the basement to lift them to the workbench...


sent on my slick dial up in the mid 80s

never.

true.

true.

campy stuff is good. company sucks. but hey; any chance a bike shop has to make $75 on a $2000 set of wheels should be treasured right?

jerk

here's my modest proposal:

campy sets up an on-line direct sales thing like fi'zik. anyone in the world can order from it at the same price.

no one else can sell mail-order unless they're at that same price.

bike shops can all make the 35-40pts it takes to keep to keep the lights on and keep my iphone charged and at the ready.

imho,
jerk

[stevep]

the whole thing is:
"this guys uncle worked in the factory, we have to let him fill his pickup truck with parts every 2 weeks... who cares where it goes.?"
too many old timers with their hands on the production.
i never see them fixing the thing.

sent postage due in an unsealed envelope to the jerk.

never.

true.

true.

campy stuff is good. company sucks. but hey; any chance a bike shop has to make $75 on a $2000 set of wheels should be treasured right?

jerk

here's my modest proposal:

campy sets up an on-line direct sales thing like fi'zik. anyone in the world can order from it at the same price.

no one else can sell mail-order unless they're at that same price.

bike shops can all make the 35-40pts it takes to keep to keep the lights on and keep my iphone charged and at the ready.

imho,
jerk

[corky]

you should be a sticky atmo.
ps say hi to john ireland and basil withropshire
back in basingstoke upon trent atmo.


What a small world...... I was born in Basingstoke and knew John Ireland at the start of CCB...... here I am living in Hungary. :beer:

[e-RICHIE]

What a small world...... I was born in Basingstoke and knew John Ireland at the start of CCB......
free bob downs atmo.

here I am living in Hungary. :beer:
have some twizzlers.

[stevep]

What a small world...... I was born in Basingstoke and knew John Ireland at the start of CCB...... here I am living in Hungary. :beer:

no way, huh?
i dont know where ireland ended up.
he hates me cause i wouldnt give him a skinsuit in 1981.
funny, though

a toast to john ireland.
the brits hate him cause his name is ireland
the irish hate him cause he's british.
i miss him cause he gets so bullshiit when i busted his balls.
ahhh, the day

funny,
we just had a guy join back up who was a member last in 1980...
they all come back...

[corky]

no way, huh?

he hates me cause i wouldnt give him a skinsuit in 1981.



JI in a skinsuit........ shudders


no way, huh?

they all come back......


Yep!....that's me :)

[e-RICHIE]

funny,
we just had a guy join back up who was a member last in 1980...
they all come back...
why?
because you are the poochmo atmo -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2004/07/02/brando/brando9.jpg

[manet]

... here I am living in Hungary.

say hi to paul arden.

[quaintjh]

the only thing that's changed since the last time we had this discussion is I've discovered a new restuarant.

not cheap by portland standards, but very, very good.


http://www.lovelyhulahands.com/

and everyone is talking up Albina Press for coffee

http://www.portlandfoodanddrink.com/?p=49
+1 for Albina Press. My brother in law lives in that hood and we had coffee there over the weekend--very good.

Jay

[Volant]

i think u r on to something atmo

ps: have u ever did the 1 beer an hour thing?


Yes. Twice. I don't remember either of them.

[pdxmech13]

Red parts on Red bikes.......big marketing scandal if you ask me.

[e-RICHIE]

Red parts on Red bikes.......big marketing scandal if you ask me.
red scare atmo.



http://www.kirkwood.k12.mo.us/parent_student/khs/plattes/Topics21-23/topics21-2326.jpg

[MilanoTom]

you guys can laff all you wantmo atmo.
i made the leap.

What next, carbon stays?

[e-RICHIE]

What next, carbon stays?
coachmo atmo -

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1163/749884200_eaf82ca413_o.jpg

[72gmc]

for those of you who are going, and want an alternative to twizzlers and beer (I don't know why, but you may), my much better half and I had dinner here (http://www.wildwoodrestaurant.com/) and it was pretty darn yummy. A reservation type place and you should probably wear something over the 'dopers suck' tee.

[Jack Brunk]

I'm a little tweaked that I bought a two day pass and I can't go to the Friday half day session. The three day pass I believe was added later. How can I and others who want to go on Friday pull this off? There should be a one session pass available for purchase.

[e-RICHIE]

I'm a little tweaked that I bought a two day pass and I can't go to the Friday half day session. The three day pass I believe was added later. How can I and others who want to go on Friday pull this off? There should be a one session pass available for purchase.
send me your amex number -
i'll fix itmo atmo.

[TMB]

What hotels are close and NOT roach infested??

[Jack Brunk]

send me your amex number -
i'll fix itmo atmo.
Do me favor and pass it on to Don. Friday was originally an industry day. Recently it was changed to a premium half day. Will you come to the front door and be my escort?

[coylifut]

What hotels are close and NOT roach infested??

stay at a downtown hotel and take the trolly arcross the river. This ones cool.

http://www.acehotel.com/portland/

[manet]

Will you come to the front door and be my escort?

how will he recognize you

[zank]

how will he recognize you

He will have bikes in tow for his booth.

[big shanty]

stay at a downtown hotel and take the trolly arcross the river. This ones cool.

http://www.acehotel.com/portland/

Don't know about the rooms at the Ace, but it has a Stumptown in the lobby and a great deli that cures and smokes its own pastrami next door, on the corner. First time I was there, there was a turntable playing Black Sabbath -Paranoid on the reception desk. The bar off the lobby is pretty slick too.

[taz-t]

how will he recognize you

oh, don't worry...you'll know. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWjGctu2874)

- taz

[Steve Hampsten]

This is where I'm staying - breakfast in the deli sounds like the hot ticket.

[Jack Brunk]

how will he recognize you
It will just happen o wise one.

[stevep]

how will he recognize you

he'll be the one trying to put breakfast on jack brunks room

[shinomaster]

What hotels are close and NOT roach infested??

http://portland.heathmanhotel.com/

[shinomaster]

stay at a downtown hotel and take the trolly arcross the river. This ones cool.

http://www.acehotel.com/portland/


There is a great GAY bar across the street atmo.

[bigtime]

Not far from ACE is Hotel Deluxe (http://www.hoteldeluxeportland.com/) -- really cool.

[bigtime]

...please bring your paint booth. Prego.

[Ginger]

What hotels are close and NOT roach infested??
What do you have against pot smokers?

nevermind

[bigtime]

We're proud to be one of America's greenest cities, inhalmo.

[coylifut]

There is a great GAY bar across the street atmo.

it is vasoline alley

[shinomaster]

Hey, this place is right in that same Hotel. Let's do a sandwich?

[shinomaster]

Doh! this place.. http://www.kennyandzukes.com/

[Sasha18]

http://portland.heathmanhotel.com/

I worked at the Heathman for 3 years in the restaurant. No roaches. Good Breakfast. I would say it's the nicest hotel in town. Too expensive for any of the employees to stay there that's for sure.

Seriously, stay downtown and take the light rail (trolley) line across the river to the stop labeled "convention center." It's a no brainer.

[shinomaster]

Pastrami burger.

[e-RICHIE]

I worked at the Heathman for 3 years in the restaurant. No roaches. Good Breakfast. I would say it's the nicest hotel in town. Too expensive for any of the employees to stay there that's for sure.

i had 3 wonderful dinners at the heathman when
the cross natz were there in 04. the guys on the frame
listserve poo-pooed it as not being representaive
of a true rose city experience. eff thatmo atmo.

[shinomaster]

i had 3 wonderful dinners at the heathman when
the cross natz were there in 04. the guys on the frame
listserve poo-pooed it as not being representaive
of a true rose city experience. eff thatmo atmo.


Atmo, it's a nice place. It's now owned by a big seafood chain so the menu has changed. It used to be more French. Philippe Boulot is a great chef, and has been written up in the Times. I took one of my X's there once, and it was lovely.

[stevep]

. I took one of my X's there once, and it was lovely.

she was an x...
she became a why?

[Sasha18]

Atmo, it's a nice place. It's now owned by a big seafood chain so the menu has changed. It used to be more French. Philippe Boulot is a great chef, and has been written up in the Times. I took one of my X's there once, and it was lovely.

I'm glad you were both well served. It got bought out right as I left. I'm sure breakfast is still good. Dinner, I'm not sure about. I think it went down hill when I moved on, but that's what everyone says after they leave a place, right?

E-richie, if you want a real portland fine dining experience, walk up the street to Higgins. It's rated top 50 in America; they cure their own meats, etc.; Greg (Higgins) learned how to cook by riding his bike all over Europe and stopping to work in small kitchens.

That's a (high-end) but awesome place to drink too. They have a great bar and Andy the bartender is a surly, but great guy. Lots o' belgian and PNW beer.

ATMO (I will only use that when I really think I know what I'm talking about).

[shinomaster]

she was an x...
she became a why?

No she became a ***!

[shinomaster]

I'm glad you were both well served. It got bought out right as I left. I'm sure breakfast is still good. Dinner, I'm not sure about. I think it went down hill when I moved on, but that's what everyone says after they leave a place, right?

E-richie, if you want a real portland fine dining experience, walk up the street to Higgins. It's rated top 50 in America; they cure their own meats, etc.; Greg (Higgins) learned how to cook by riding his bike all over Europe and stopping to work in small kitchens.

That's a (high-end) but awesome place to drink too. They have a great bar and Andy the bartender is a surly, but great guy. Lots o' belgian and PNW beer.

ATMO (I will only use that when I really think I know what I'm talking about).

ATMO,

Higgins is a Portland institution. I think you might be a bit bummed if you go back to the Heathman. The menu is mostly seafood (fishy.)

[shinomaster]

Saturday
1030- 1130
Richard Schwinn, Fitting for consumers, Room C 124

1130-1215
Richard Sachs Film Screening, Room C 123

1230-1330
Darrell McCulloch, Shiny Stuff, C 124

1330-1415
Gary Prange, Decal applications, C 123

1430-1530
Paul Sadoff, Cross geometry, C 124

1530-1630
Columbus Spirit, Tubing explained, C 123

1630-1730
Reynolds 953, History and Future, C 124

1700-1800
Ric Hjertberg, Wood Rims, C 123

Mr. Sachs, are you showing a film?

[e-RICHIE]

Saturday
1030- 1130
Richard Schwinn, Fitting for consumers, Room C 124

1130-1215
Richard Sachs Film Screening, Room C 123

1230-1330
Darrell McCulloch, Shiny Stuff, C 124

1330-1415
Gary Prange, Decal applications, C 123

1430-1530
Paul Sadoff, Cross geometry, C 124

1530-1630
Columbus Spirit, Tubing explained, C 123

1630-1730
Reynolds 953, History and Future, C 124

1700-1800
Ric Hjertberg, Wood Rims, C 123

Mr. Sachs, are you showing a film?
um i s'pose atmo.

[manet]

blah blah blah...
Mr. Sachs, are you showing a film?

rudimentaries.

[shinomaster]

um i s'pose atmo.

About what? Should I buy a ticket?

[manet]

one, a trailer on coffin building, from the inside out.

the other, snippets from episcoville, the hair loss years.

[shinomaster]

Nothing about Chester?

[e-RICHIE]

Nothing about Chester?
it's a combination of Network meets Sunset Boulevard, told
through the eyes of Chance the Gardener from Being There atmo.

[shinomaster]

it's a combination of Network meets Sunset Boulevard, told
through the eyes of Chance the Gardener from Being There atmo.


no comprende atmo.

eat here. http://www.fenouilinthepearl.com/menu.php

[manet]

northshore ticket sales

[shanerpvt]

i think u r on to something atmo

ps: have u ever did the 1 beer an hour thing?

did some 1 beer per hole golf in college.......ugly.

nothing more to say here,

shaner

[Volant]

did some 1 beer per hole golf in college.......ugly.

nothing more to say here,

shaner

Hey, I prayed that game too!

[stevep]

see hjertberg if you get a chance.
he's pretty entertaining.

i heard sachs' movie lasts 9 weeks.
it takes him through building 1 frame.

[e-RICHIE]

see hjertberg if you get a chance.
he's pretty entertaining.

i heard sachs' movie lasts 9 weeks.
it takes him through building 1 frame.
no toot for you at the cast party atmo.
sheeesh -

[J.Greene]

i heard sachs' movie lasts 9 weeks.


he was much better at 9 1/2 weeks.

JG

[big shanty]

no toot for you at the cast party atmo.
sheeesh -

Only worth it if it's artisanal Portland toot.

[shinomaster]

http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2008/01/restaurant_review_kenny_zukes.html

[big shanty]

That place is bad-a**!!

[72gmc]

did some 1 beer per hole golf in college.......ugly.

Our college game was the venerable 100 Club: one shot glass of beer every minute, no spewing or going to the head a-tall or you're DQ'd. AKA you have roughly 100 minutes to live.

[big shanty]

Ah, the old Century club....my recollection was it was either a shot of beer/minute for 100 minutes, or alternatively 100 12 oz. beers in a specified period of time (a week?).

[J.Greene]

Ah, the old Century club....my recollection was it was either a shot of beer/minute for 100 minutes, or alternatively 100 12 oz. beers in a specified period of time (a week?).

oh god I kinda remember that game. My whole fraternity would play that. 100 shots of beer is about a 12pack iirc. 12 beers in 100 minutes is no easy task. I rememebr most of us had to use the trash cans strategically placed at the ends of every table.

JG

[Dave B]

Saw a kid literally drink himself to death my freshman year. was doing shots of tequila instead of beer, something like 17 shots in 17 minutes and well, body couldn't take it. At least that is what the paper said afterward.

[shinomaster]

Is anyone gonna wear a name tag at the show? Something like...Hello my name is Jerk.

[stevep]

Is anyone gonna wear a name tag at the show? Something like...Hello my name is Jerk.

shino,
they're all jerks... very redundent.

[big shanty]

I should be easy to spot. I'll be the one with the boner.

[e-RICHIE]

I should be easy to spot. I'll be the one with the boner.
idol 7.0 commercial break -
this needs to be cached forever atmo.

[David Kirk]

I should be easy to spot. I'll be the one with the boner.

two words Big Man

personal space.

Dave

[DarrenCT]

Is anyone gonna wear a name tag at the show? Something like...Hello my name is Jerk.

if i was there, id be the one with the beer.

someone needs to take my placemo

[SoCalSteve]

I should be easy to spot. I'll be the one with the boner.

Maybe this should be made into a "sticky"...Oh wait, never mind :banana:

[DarrenCT]

Maybe this should be made into a "sticky"...Oh wait, never mind :banana:

maybe its u on the playboy channel steve?

[Jack Brunk]

Back to topic but now the NAHBS website shows no public viewing on Friday. What is the official stance?

[David Kirk]

Back to topic but now the NAHBS website shows no public viewing on Friday. What is the official stance?

Unless it's changed last I heard the show was open to the public after 1 pm.

Dave

[shinomaster]

if i was there, id be the one with the beer.

someone needs to take my placemo


BYOB.

[pdxmech13]

I consider myself kin to the industry and will be drunk at richie's booth friday at 9:30.

[David Kirk]

I consider myself kin to the industry and will be drunk at richie's booth friday at 9:30.


AM?

Dave

[swoop]

hey, i found my cordless drill. does anyone have any ailments? headaches? i got you...

[WadePatton]

how many toofs on your holesaw and what's the angle, no bone chatter--right?

[pdxmech13]

am.

[shinomaster]

am.

Beer 30