Serotta Steel

[Honokowai]

Well, hate to say it but I'm in the market for a new frame - my old Cinelli Supercorsa (a '57) needs to be retired - the rust inside the tubes is getting real scary. I guess 50 years of use is pretty good (though I've only had the pleasure since '71)

Guess you can tell from this I'm an older rider, and really enjoy the ride of a steel bike. When I was racing in the early 70's in upstate New York, I gained respect for Serotta frames - was always impressed with the ride and workmanship. He was locally known then, but getting alot of good discussions all over the northeast.

Things in bike frames have changed. I'm looking for something like a used Colorado (excellent use of steel!!!), but would like opinions on stiff, but comfortable frames similar to my old trusted steed.

Thanks all

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bro i hope you get 50 out the next one too ..check out jims sale he has some new classic ride steel and fork .... imho
cheers

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http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=38072 he has them in the class. section too

[e-RICHIE]

www.jackbrunk.com
sooner or later atmo...

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i should have went to work in the meat dept.
cheers

[Louis]

H,

What size?

[manet]

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jack is into steel too how cool is that
cheers

[Peter P.]

If your Cinelli isn't broken, there's nothing wrong with it. I'm currently riding a 24 year old lugged, steel Trek with rust holes in the top tube. Until the tube cracks, I'm gettin' my money's worth out of it. What are YOU afraid of? ;-)

Unfortunately for you, if you're enamored of Serotta STEEL, and particularly a Colorado, you'll have to be patient and keep your eyes peeled to the Classifieds section of this forum or e-Bay. They do appear.

For today's Serotta offerings, you're sorta out of luck. The Fierte has carbon stays, the Couer d'Acier can be ordered full-steel but both models still come with a carbon fork. It's not clear whether you're willing to tolerate a carbon fork.

There are still many steel frame+fork combos to be had out there, at a reasonable price and a not too long wait. Since you've got the "custom" and semi-custom experience of old Serotta, you'd certainly be pleased with some of these other builders; a few of them even participate on this forum. Just ask to be steered in that direction and the forumites can point you there.

Most steel frames of today are stiffer than your Cinelli due to the oversized steel tubes being used, yet they're lighter as well but won't beat you up on the road.

Since Italian steel doesn't bother you, I'd check out Torelli and Mondonico.
http://www.torelli.com/
The American importer of these frames has a great reputation and did his homework in picking the builders for these frames.

Unless you're unaware, the price of lugged steel frames has gone up considerably since your Cinelli days; perhaps the price won't upset you.
It's not clear, but if that's what specifically interests you, yet you want a quicker turnaround on a steel frame+fork, I'd recommend Waterford. They're the grandchild of the venerable Schwinn Paramount, which I'm sure you've heard of.
http://www.waterfordbikes.com

For a few custom builders who could place you on a lugged steel frame and fork, these three are highly recommended, and are welcome participants on this forum:
http://www.curtgoodrich.com/
http://www.spectrum-cycles.com/
http://zanconato.com/

If you're willing to accept the fact that most bikes today come with a carbon fork, and TIG welding has supplanted lugged steel as the most common assembly method for steel frames (only because of cost), then your options expand even further.

[chuckroast]

Don't know your size. I'm not the seller but I have purchased from this fellow before and had a good experience.

http://www.recycledcycles.net/recy.road.html

[barry1021]

frames on EBAY of good quality on a regular basis (Serotta, not so much). I have bought six lugged frames on EBAY and they ride great. I have no regrets on selling my "modern" steel bikes and buying ten year old (give or take) frames with SL or SLX tubing or similar and build them up.

b21

[Cinci Jim]

I have a all steel 54cm Fierte I would not mind selling to a good home. Carbon fork though.

[Honokowai]

Thanks for all the info! I'm looking for a 57 cm. The Cinelli I have is classic 72 angles, and I've grown accustomed to the ride - great road bike and the rake and angles are good for real long rides.

I've seen what happens when a frame breaks during rides and races, and I'd rather not experience it personally. I watched a guy pull out a bottom bracket out of an older titanium bike (a Teledyne Titan) at the Tour of Sommerville ages ago, and I still remember the mess it made.

A bit of carbon doesn't bother me - in fact I used to design carbon graphite goodies for DoD customers (along with boron composite nasty stuff)). It's good when used correctly.

[stevep]

If your Cinelli isn't broken, there's nothing wrong with it. I'm currently riding a 24 year old lugged, steel Trek with rust holes in the top tube. Until the tube cracks, I'm gettin' my money's worth out of it. What are YOU afraid of? ;-)
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crashing and breaking 5 bones in the middle of a 44 mph descent? maybe?

medical bills cost way, way more than a frame that is probably 25 yrs past its engineered use.
peter p. i dont want to see you in front of me on a fast ride. it might be me who busts a bone cause yr milking the last 20 miles out of a beat frame.

what are you doing?
waiting until it actually breaks?
does that somehow make sense to you?