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ss-jimbo
11-06-2007, 02:51 PM
I have a Challenge tubular that I inherited. It seemed to lose air quickly, as in a noticeable amount overnight. I thought it had a puncture of some sort, but now I read that some tubulars have thin latex tubes that air pretty much passes right through. Is that the case here? Should I just reglue it and ride (I pulled it off, yeah, I'm impulsive).

Thanks, jimbo
e-RICHIE
11-06-2007, 03:06 PM
as look as it holds for an hour you're fine.
ps check the valve threads atmo.
zank
11-06-2007, 04:15 PM
The Grifos I have had in the past have lost 15-20 psi over night, which is noticable considering I would ride them at 30 psi. Same thing with my FMBs. The latex tubes are quite permeable.
Too Tall
11-06-2007, 04:18 PM
Same here...mine lost 10 psi overnight. FWIIW their road tyres are garbage. Look nice, great idea but geeze poor quality.
e-RICHIE
11-06-2007, 04:32 PM
i lost 15 pounds since july atmo.
fstrthnu
11-06-2007, 04:34 PM
The Challenges sometimes come with the valve core and stem not all the way tightened together. Snug'em up!
Too Tall
11-06-2007, 04:54 PM
ATMO sometimes come with the valve core and stem not all the way tightened together. Snug'em up!

FWIIW aging will not help yo.
fstrthnu
11-06-2007, 05:00 PM
FWIIW aging will not help yo.

?
11.4
11-06-2007, 05:24 PM
FWIIW aging will not help yo.


fstrthnu,

TT was speaking about e-Richie.
fstrthnu
11-06-2007, 05:38 PM
What I want to know is how an "ATMO" got in my quote?

That's not my line!

:confused:
11.4
11-06-2007, 05:40 PM
What I want to know is how an "ATMO" got in my quote?

That's not my line!

:confused:

Spasmodic reflex.

It's happened before.
e-RICHIE
11-06-2007, 05:42 PM
Spasmodic reflex.

It's happened before the deluge.
what can jackson browne do for you atmo?
fstrthnu
11-06-2007, 05:42 PM
Spasmodic reflex.

It's happened before.

11.4 knows everything imho.

:beer:
e-RICHIE
11-06-2007, 05:44 PM
11.4 times two = 22.8.

:beer:
justin basta atmo.
fstrthnu
11-06-2007, 05:46 PM
justin is my savior atmo.

I know Richard, I know...
11.4
11-06-2007, 06:13 PM
justin basta atmo.

No offense, but you're toying with my reality.
jemoryl
11-06-2007, 06:14 PM
Same here...mine lost 10 psi overnight. FWIIW their road tyres are garbage. Look nice, great idea but geeze poor quality.

What problems have you had with the road tires? I don't want to jinx myself but I've had good luck with them (Criterium and Elites).
e-RICHIE
11-06-2007, 06:16 PM
No offense, but you're toying with my reality.

well okay then atmo -

11.4 knows everything imho.

:beer:
manet
11-06-2007, 06:33 PM
i lost 15 pounds since july atmo.

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Mud
11-07-2007, 07:08 AM
my limited experience says it may be the valve core. For whatever reason there seem to be inconsistancies in how they seal. I know people will (or already) think I am nuts but a core will seal fine in one tire and not in another-different brand. I keep a supply of Vittoria cores and some of them will not seal with Tufo valve extenders. I am suspicious of all things Tufo but 3 of 4 worked fine.

A quick word of advise (probably bad) to tubular riders who use valve extensions, also carry a piece of teflon tape as well as an extra extension. I have talked to some who don't realize the spare's valve will not be long enough and the teflon tape that is already on the flatted tire may be destroyed. Just a thought.
Too Tall
11-07-2007, 07:28 AM
What problems have you had with the road tires? I don't want to jinx myself but I've had good luck with them (Criterium and Elites).
PARIS ROUBAIX (nero). Ick ick ick. I found them to be quite fragile in contrast to what they were intended for. Trust me I did my level best to make them work however after repairing front and rear than having the rear shred while riding a gravel trail I ride everyday and never had a prob. I called it quits.
jemoryl
11-07-2007, 08:16 AM
PARIS ROUBAIX (nero). Ick ick ick. I found them to be quite fragile in contrast to what they were intended for. Trust me I did my level best to make them work however after repairing front and rear than having the rear shred while riding a gravel trail I ride everyday and never had a prob. I called it quits.

I'm not much of a gravel road guy but have put maybe 10k on various sets of Elites and Criteriums (had a cheap source) without major problems (a couple bootable cuts that I reckon would have happened with most tires). Wear seems ok for fairly light tires with a good ride. No one else I know has these tires or knows anything about them, so I was interested in your take.