nahbs

[stevep]

this from the trade website,
thought it might be of interest.

Handmade Exhibitor Numbers Up




SPEEDWAY, IN (BRAIN)—The North American Handmade Bicycle Show is gaining in popularity with 92 exhibitors already registered.

This is only 11 short of last year's total of 103. Booth space sales are already close to the '07 figure of 130, and with seven weeks of registration remaining it is possible that all 200 booth spaces might sell out. Exhibitor registration closes Dec. 15, 2007. This year's show is in Portland, Oregon, Feb. 8-10.

As the show continues to grow in size and status, Walker
increasingly sees it as a venue for key manufacturers to reach their target audience.

"As a sponsorship vehicle, the show provides a two-fold opportunity. First of all, it is a place for the more upscale manufacturers to engender some brand loyalty-afterall, people just love this show and those that help provide it. Secondly, NAHBS is a unique opportunity for people like component manufacturers to connect with the handmade bicycles industry to find out the innovative ways
their components are being used-uses that the large scale
manufacturers would never conceive. These are the flagship display bicycles for component makers."

[coylifut]

cool. the event is about a mile from my office.

[shinomaster]

Where is it going to be Terry? You racing tomorrow? I expect to see the Zebras.

[rnhood]

I'm going to have to try and make it to that show. I suspect this will be the best year yet for this exhibit. Can't wait till it shows up on the East Coast.

[e-RICHIE]

nahbs = maker of kings

[coylifut]

Where is it going to be Terry? You racing tomorrow? I expect to see the Zebras.

not tomorrow, ended up with the crud so missing two races. I'll be back next weekend.

[BumbleBeeDave]

I'm going to have to try and make it to that show. I suspect this will be the best year yet for this exhibit. Can't wait till it shows up on the East Coast.

. . . exactly WHEN??? . . . :crap:

BBD

[BumbleBeeDave]

nahbs = maker of kings

. . . that e-richie will be receiving the "Ernesto Colnago Lifetime Comb-Over Achievement Award" at the post-show dinner . . . ;)

BBD

[Ginger]

I'll be there.

We'll have to "do lunch" or something.

I've done a little searching and there are a ton of restaurants of all levels in the greater Portland area who are celiac friendly. (In case someone winds up planning a forum gathering...)

[Steve Hampsten]

It sounds like Ginger is planning a forum gathering!

Which night?

Who is in?

I'll be there, prolly.

[Ginger]

It sounds like Ginger is planning a forum gathering!

I don't think that's the greatest idea...I'm not "local." :)

But of course, if someone local doesn't step up, I'll do it. ;)


So...yeah...Who's going? Which days? (so the local knows when we'd have the greatest concentration of possible attendees?)

[roman meal]

This viking is cashing in some frequent flyer miles.

[old_school]

Don's the man! ... can't wait 'till NAHBS heads east

Exhibitor list as of 10-23:

NIPC
Paul Component Eng.
Soulcraft
Sadilah
Oswald Cycle Works
Independent Fabrication
Don Walker Cycles
Kish Fabrication
Roark Titanium Bicycles
Igleheart Custom Bicycles
Richard Sachs Cycles
Wolfhound Cycles
Moyer Cycles
Ahrens Bicycles
Naked Bicycles and Design
Phil Wood & Co.
Retrotec
Townsend Cycles
Ahearne Cycles
Sycip Design
Vicious Cycles
Coconino Cycles
Rex Cycles
Velocity USA
Cloud Nine Design
ANT
Paragon Machine Works
Engin Cycles
Rebolledo Cycles
Vendetta Cycles
Screen Specialties Shop Ink
Henry James
Good Times Bicycles
Selle Italia/Pronet
Landshark Bicycles
United Bicycle Institute
Rock Lobster
Keith Anderson Cycles
Grognard Bicycle Co.
Zipp Speed Weaponry
Highway 2 ( Brooks)
Thursday Bicycles
El Camino Fab
Screen Specialties Shop Ink
Keith Anderson Cycles
Calfee Design
Bicycle Forest
Luna Cycles
Hunter Cycles
marschall Framework
Rue Sports
Cicli Polito
Dominguez Cycles
Rene Herse Cycles
Cane Creek
Maietta Cycles
White Industries
Ira Ryan Cycles
Evante
Strong Frames
Kirk Frameworks
Vintage Cycle Studio
Crumpton Cycles
Pereira Cycles
Nice Bikes
Sheila Moon Cycling Apperal
Terra Nova Cycles, LLC
Llewellyn Custom Bicycles
333 Fab
Groovy Cycleworks
Palermo Cycles
Vertigo Cycles
Sputnik Tool
True Fabrication
Sweetpea Bicycles
Desalvo Custom Cycles
Courage Cycles
Villin Cycle Works
Signal Cycles
Bringheli Bicycles
Jeff Jones Custom Bicycles
Moots Cycles
Challenge USA
Frances Cycles
Wound Up Composites
Fairing Industrial
Columbus/Gruppos Spa
Rapha Racing
White Brothers
L.H. Thomson
Delta 7 Sports
Nobilette Cycle

[pdxmech13]

I say since shino's the food king around these here parts he picks the place.
And there is a ton of places we can drink.....I mean have a nice little social dinner ;) :beer:

[Ginger]

I say since shino's the food king around these here parts he picks the place.
And there is a ton of places we can drink.....I mean have a nice little social dinner ;) :beer:
Celiac friendly. :) I'll send the list to Johnny and see what he thinks...

[swoop]

i might come for a day... willing to streak. have logo space available on cheeks and muffin top.
i do rock a carbon rear for increased acceleration and cornering.

[Ginger]

i might come for a day... willing to streak. have logo space avaiable on cheeks and muffifn top.
i do rock a carbon rear for increased acceleration and cornering.


I think maybe we just all lost our appetite...thanks for settling the restaurant dilemma.

[SPOKE]

i'll be there. expect to arrive on thursday and leave on sunday. :beer:

[BumbleBeeDave]

i might come for a day... willing to streak. have logo space avaiable on cheeks and muffifn top.
i do rock a carbon rear for increased acceleration and cornering.

So much for my daydreaming about taking a midwinter road trip. :eek:

BBD

[gasman]

I'll be there Saturday-let's get together Sat eve.

[11.4]

I think maybe we just all lost our appetite...thanks for settling the restaurant dilemma.

Remember, MA, this IS Portland. He'll fit right in.

[David Kirk]

If there is to be a forum dinner/gathering/brawl it seems like Saturday would be best. There is something going on with show hours running late on Friday as I recall and most folks will be on the orad Sunday.

So how's bout having a shindig on Saturday?

Dave

[Fixed]

bro i'm mailing myself there
cheers imho

[shinomaster]

If there is room and Ginger can eat pizza.. http://www.kensartisan.com/pizza.html

[shinomaster]

Oh, can't we please go here too Ginger? Stevep is buying right? http://www.fenouilinthepearl.com/

[Steve Hampsten]

If there is room and Ginger can eat pizza.. http://www.kensartisan.com/pizza.html

Check me if I'm wrong here, Scotty, but I don't think Ginger does wheat flour.

And Saturday night in Portland's better pizzaria? Hmmm...sounds tough. I love waiting 2 hours as much as the next person, but still...

Can we get anything catered?

Party for 30 people?

[Karin Kirk]

If there is room and Ginger can eat pizza.. http://www.kensartisan.com/pizza.html

Wow! That looks tasty. No, Ginger cannot eat pizza :(
But I'll eat her share.

After reading Swoop's post, I was going to cancel my plans to go. But the pizza has changed my mind back again. Yum.

[shinomaster]

So what can she eat? Squab? http://www.lepigeon.com/

[shinomaster]

I think Atmo would like this place. http://www.chuckecheese.com/the-experience/

[big shanty]

I had lunch featuring a fantastic hamburger at Fenouil last winter.

I had the pleasure of both meeting Shinomaster and seeing the guy in the thong this afternoon. He (thong guy) was in costume as a "muff diver". His costume consisted of a thong, a helmet, cycling shoes, and "MUFF DIVER" written across his back in grease pencil. There were two other people in this same, extraordinarily creative costume....both women in furry black bikinis. One of them was probably over six feet tall. I was standing at the base of the big climb/runup during the women's race, and at one point the tall one stopped, walked over, grabbed my beer, drank the remaining 1/3 of a beer, said thanks, and punched me in the sternum. If I had a muff, I'd be in love.

[bigtime]

gotta say, i don't understand the attraction to ken's. great looking women do tend to flock there though...

much better bet is: http://www.apizzascholls.com/

either way, both places have ridiculous waits.

[Steve Hampsten]

I'm bringing my deep-fryer. We can do turducken-stuffed manatee out in the parking lot - everyone likes that, right?

[big shanty]

I'm bringing my deep-fryer. We can do turducken-stuffed manatee out in the parking lot - everyone likes that, right?

only if it's local manatee

[Ginger]

The pizza looks good...but nope, they don't offer a gluten free option (some pizza places do now...even in Detroit)

I was looking at this place
http://www.andinarestaurant.com/
or
http://www.grollarestaurant.com/
or
http://www.threedegreesrestaurant.com/portland/index.html
or
http://www.corbettfishhouse.com/


For the locals, here's a list of places/local Gluten free friendly restaurants...any of these any good???
* Acapulco's Southwest Gold
* Andina
* Assaggio's (Temporarily Closed)
* Caprial's Bistro
* Carafe
* Clarke's
* Coffee Plant
* Corbett Fish House
* Fife Restaurant
* Grolla
* Hawthorne Fish House
* Lemon Grass
* Mon Ami Crepes & Coffee
* Old Wives' Tale
* Papa Haydn
* PF Changs China Bistro
* Rubys Coffee Shop
* Seasons & Regions
* The Old Spaghetti Factory
* Three Degrees
* Three Square Grill
Flambe

or a drive
Pasto Rico's
14559 Westlake Dr. Lake Oswego, OR. 97035 503-620-7723
http://www.pastoricos.com
PIZZA! Really great 13" GF Italian family traditional pizza is now available fresh from the hearth. (although it doesn't look like the kind of place we're looking for)

Shino, I'd have to check on that restaurant of yours...they may or may not do gluten free. It would be funny if they didn't. Say what you will about French waiters or service, there wasn't any decent place in Paris that I went that they couldn't/wouldn't deal with the gluten-free requirement...they knew what it was and they provided safe food. I did have to ask what I could have, but I didn't have to explain what celiac was or issues with cross contamination.
But the French restaurants here? They're not French.

[Ti Designs]

nahbs = maker of kings

Hmmm, I thought they were makers of frames - I'm always the last one to know these things.

[Too Tall]

I had lunch featuring a fantastic hamburger at Fenouil last winter.

I had the pleasure of both meeting Shinomaster and seeing the guy in the thong this afternoon. He (thong guy) was in costume as a "muff diver". His costume consisted of a thong, a helmet, cycling shoes, and "MUFF DIVER" written across his back in grease pencil. There were two other people in this same, extraordinarily creative costume....both women in furry black bikinis. One of them was probably over six feet tall. I was standing at the base of the big climb/runup during the women's race, and at one point the tall one stopped, walked over, grabbed my beer, drank the remaining 1/3 of a beer, said thanks, and punched me in the sternum. If I had a muff, I'd be in love.
Clearly a signal to get the tattoo...yah?

[stevep]

i might come for a day... willing to streak. have logo space available on cheeks and muffin top.
i do rock a carbon rear for increased acceleration and cornering.

he ran the same program at the las vegas show.

i heard that ernies las vegas auto body shop picked up quite a bit of business out of the cheeks, i also heard the top was overpriced...tasted great, but was less filling.

[pdxmech13]

We could go to noble rot !
Great wine, beer in a cozy atmosphere.
There is a upstairs we could reserve.
http://www.noblerotpdx.com/

[Pete Serotta]

SPOKES and I have our hotel reservations.....
:D :D

[shinomaster]

SPOKES and I have our hotel reservations.....
:D :D


Change them. You people should all stay here. http://www.mcmenamins.com/index.php?loc=57&category=Location%20Homepage

[Ginger]

We could go to noble rot !
Great wine, beer in a cozy atmosphere.
There is a upstairs we could reserve.
http://www.noblerotpdx.com/


Yeah, if none of the gluten free establishments work I'll just join you guys after I have dinner elsewhere. :)


Hey...is Portland smoke free (in the restaurants)?

[shinomaster]

Yeah, if none of the gluten free establishments work I'll just join you guys after I have dinner elsewhere. :)


Hey...is Portland smoke free (in the restaurants)?


NO.

[Ginger]

NO.
I take it that's the smoke free part...I was wondering 'cause I came across a menu from the place you suggested with Cigars ON the menu...

Unless you won't let me eat elsewhere and join you after...

[shinomaster]

Give us another two years. I was just kidding about those French places...it would cost a small fortune to eat there. Honestly for a big crowd a brew pub like the Kennedy school is a good option. Lots of space, multiple bars, decent bar food. They also do private rooms and cater them.

[coylifut]

Yeah, I'm usually adverse to brew pub grub, but there's a couple of good ones here in town and they tend to be accomodating to larger groups. We should focus on a place that's either walking distance or a short trolly ride from the event.

Is there an official hotel yet?

[e-RICHIE]

we liked this (http://www.heathmanhotel.com/dining/) at cross natz atmo.

[Steve Hampsten]

Give us another two years. I was just kidding about those French places...it would cost a small fortune to eat there. Honestly for a big crowd a brew pub like the Kennedy school is a good option. Lots of space, multiple bars, decent bar food. They also do private rooms and cater them.

How far from the Kennedy School to the Convention Center?

[Karin Kirk]

Unless you won't let me eat elsewhere and join you after...
NO! We won't allow that. Your attendance is mandatory.
:)

[shinomaster]

How far from the Kennedy School to the Convention Center?


Steve! Not far!

Atmo you ate at the Heathman? You should have gone to Higgens

[shinomaster]

Anyone wanting a burger with foi gras should eat here. http://www.hurleys-restaurant.com/food/menu.html

This place is good too.
http://www.paleysplace.net/

[davids]

bro i'm mailing myself there
cheers imho
Waldo Jeffers? Is that you?

[pdxmech13]

I'm pretty sure the noble is gluten free.....I can check in with the chief.
most small places are becoming smoke free :beer:

[Ginger]

NO! We won't allow that. Your attendance is mandatory.
:)
Well...in that case...

Coylfit, perhaps you'd like to ring in on that menu list?


From Shino (in PM)
Capril's is great.
Papa Hayden's is supposed to be good (Italian)


I'm willing to work with any restaurant that we think we want to go to, but I'll say that it depends on where they get their food and how far they prep in advance and how the kitchen is run whether they care to work with someone who's celiac...

So winnow it down to a couple choices (on or off list) and I'll make some calls and do some digging on whether they'll work out or not.

[Ginger]

This place is good too.
http://www.paleysplace.net/

Looking at this place it perhaps has a better possibility of feeding me without issue than nobel...(if you look at their site, they make a "paleybar" that is wheat free...)

I can get a pretty good feeling for a place's competency in dealing with cross contamination when I talk to them on the phone...and once I'm there if a server doesn't quite "get it" I have no problem being a terrible customer and trotting myself back to talk to the chef myself. Sometimes it turns out better that way.


I have to say that the problem with some of these Celiac web sites is that the people don't seem to go to too many more adventurous restaurants. It's such a pain if you're the very first celiac to cross the threshold and you wind up sick because the restaurant doesn't have a clue about how far the cross contamination issue extends...

Anyone familiar with how Meg Ryan ordered all her food in When Harry met Sally? I generally order last because I'm worse than that. But I have to be.

[jmewkill]

will there be a table for the undesirables?

you know shanks of meat, jugs of beer, dogs under the table.

[maunahaole]

will there be a table for the undesirables?

you know shanks of meat, jugs of beer, dogs under the table.


Sounds as though you want to go to either Montage or the Lucky Labrador.

Can someone give me details as to where and when on this show? My brother lives in PDX and I'd like to tip him off as to it (or pop for a ticket and go myself).

Mahalo Nui Loa

[coylifut]

will there be a table for the undesirables?

you know shanks of meat, jugs of beer, dogs under the table.

yeah, there's a place called the Lucky Labrador.



Here's my other comments in a random stream of consciousness. In this town, you gotta try really hard to get a bad Asian or Mexican meal, but you gotta work a bit to get good Italian food. There's plenty of mod/bistro/ecclectic/fushion stuff. You'll also find that prices are very good, much like San Francisco, but without the sales tax. My comments aren't directed at the get-together, but at food in general.

you gotta get a Spanish coffe at http://www.hubers.com/

Italian http://www.piazzaportland.com/ A really great family from Rome who do very simple food, but do it well. Moderately priced, great atmosphere. They can handle a large table 10-15, but not large groups

Cha Cha Cha. Not to be confused with the Santoria themed Haight Asburry restaurant in SFO. This is perhaps the best "cheap" mexican food whithin a short distance of venue. There's a couple of different locations. The one in the Pearl is accessable via trolly from the venue.

Gotham Tavern. Very good food, walking distance from the venue, priced very reasonably. http://www.gothamtavern.com/menu.html

Per Que No. http://www.portlandfoodanddrink.com/?p=94 In the Mississippi arts district which is certainly worth a stroll in it's own right. It's located just outside of walking distance from the venue. This not your typical Portland/East LA meets Tjuana taqueria. The place has it's own style and taste. Worth the effort.

Clark Lewis. http://www.ripepdx.com/ Very good, but not cheap. The kind of place I take my wife to recapture those dating days. Not a short walk, but indeed walking distance from the venue.

Pho Oregon. http://www.grubnow.com/cgi-bin/showmenu.cgi?xid=phooregon There's a lot of great Thai restaurants in town, in fact there's 3 of them that come to mind whithin walking distance from the venue. However, Thai is so played out. Portland has some of the best Vietnamese restaurants that I've ever tried. The one above has a solid menu from top to bottom and you'll laugh at how cheap it is when you get the bill. It's a well known hole in the wall and about a 10 minute drive, taxi ride, bus ride from the venue. The traditional Beef noodle soup is great, but dont stop there.

Fong Chong Grocery and the House of Louie. I mention these together because they both do the same thing about equally as well and are almost across the street from each other. Perhaps the best Hog Kong style Dim Sum on the West Coast. Not a dinner spot, but a lunch spot. Walking distance from the venue.


That's all for now.

[big shanty]

I've been to the Lucky Labrador. Here are some thoughts:

1) Every beer I drank there tasted kind of watery.

2) I am leery of bars that do not have a deep fryer.

3) The atmosphere is severely lacking.

We can do better, even with a large group.

[e-RICHIE]

We can do better, even with a large group.
provo atmo

[maunahaole]

The Acropolis can probably handle a big group. Not sure if you would want to eat there, though.

[shinomaster]

I've been to the Lucky Labrador. Here are some thoughts:

1) Every beer I drank there tasted kind of watery.

2) I am leery of bars that do not have a deep fryer.

3) The atmosphere is severely lacking.

We can do better, even with a large group.


"gets it"

[Ozz]

....This place is good too.
http://www.paleysplace.net/
I've been to Paley's Place....it's a white table cloths and artisan cheese type place....more suited for "date-night" with your honey than this crowd....offense intended.;)

The food is excellent however..... :beer:

[Karin Kirk]

Anyone familiar with how Meg Ryan ordered all her food in When Harry met Sally?

And when you get a meal that you really, really like do you have a similar reaction like Sally does in that scene in the deli?

[Ginger]

And when you get a meal that you really, really like do you have a similar reaction like Sally does in that scene in the deli?

Ah,

Not really.


Although I suppose that would be a selling point to get people to go to a decent place, eh?

[e-RICHIE]

Ah,

Not really.


Although I suppose that would be a selling point to get people to go to a decent place, eh?
i might come atmo.

[bcm119]

I'll be there. Anywhere with decent beer sounds good to me.

[Ginger]

i might come atmo.
Ok, you can be Sally.

[Karin Kirk]

Ok, you can be Sally.
You beat me to that punch line! :)

[Ginger]

You beat me to that punch line! :)
This...

is gonna be fun.

:)

[Grant McLean]

Ok, you can be Sally.

i'll have what she's having...

-g

[shinomaster]

Capril's is far away and not easy to get to unless you have a car. Papa Hayden's is run by criminals and isn't especially close either. The Corbett fish House is mediocre and far away.
I say we wait a month and get a real head count and figure it out then. Most of the places I jokingly tossed out as ideas are good but uber expensive and small. http://www.genoarestaurant.com/menu.html Ha ha..
It seems to me that a brew pub like Bridgeport or http://www.mcmenamins.com/ might be a more realistic option.

[Ginger]

Capril's is far away and not easy to get to unless you have a car. Papa Hayden's is run by criminals and isn't especially close either. The Corbett fish House is mediocre and far away.
I say we wait a month and get a real head count and figure it out then. Most of the places I jokingly tossed out as ideas are good but uber expensive and small. http://www.genoarestaurant.com/menu.html Ha ha..
It seems to me that a brew pub like Bridgeport or http://www.mcmenamins.com/ might be a more realistic option.

Yeah..I looked at the menu and it looks like not celiac friendly...

Like I said before...It's not like we all *have* to eat at the same place as long as we wind up at the same place sometime during the night. :) (which depending on how big of a group we get together...might not be a bad idea anyhow...)

[Ginger]

Can we get anything catered?

Party for 30 people?

That would take some of the "end of night" bill sorting excitement out of the equation, wouldn't it? :)

[shinomaster]

Who likes cigarette smoke? I do I do! This place has the best fish and chips and rivers of beer. http://www.horsebrass.com/

[maunahaole]

My brother did his wedding rehearsal dinner at Kennedy School - you could get a private room and catered there. When you are done eating, etc, you can go to their bar(s) to hang.

[shinomaster]

My brother did his wedding rehearsal dinner at Kennedy School - you could get a private room and catered there. When you are done eating, etc, you can go to their bar(s) to hang.

And you can go back to your room and fool around. :banana:

[shinomaster]

I had lunch featuring a fantastic hamburger at Fenouil last winter.

I had the pleasure of both meeting Shinomaster and seeing the guy in the thong this afternoon. He (thong guy) was in costume as a "muff diver". His costume consisted of a thong, a helmet, cycling shoes, and "MUFF DIVER" written across his back in grease pencil. There were two other people in this same, extraordinarily creative costume....both women in furry black bikinis. One of them was probably over six feet tall. I was standing at the base of the big climb/runup during the women's race, and at one point the tall one stopped, walked over, grabbed my beer, drank the remaining 1/3 of a beer, said thanks, and punched me in the sternum. If I had a muff, I'd be in love.


Nice to meet you too! I at first thought you were the repo-man coming to take away my Fuji.
Did that chick really do that? That is effing awsome.

[NAHBS]

C.D. from Chris King mentioned a place called "Kells" and said they had great beer and Single Malts....

DW

[roman meal]

C.D. from Chris King mentioned a place called "Kells" and said they had great beer and Single Malts....

DW


Vikings w/add go to places like this, and pillage them.

[NAHBS]

Vikings w/add go to places like this, and pillage them.

Anyone seen my hat with the horns?

I am sooo there.

DW

[shinomaster]

C.D. from Chris King mentioned a place called "Kells" and said they had great beer and Single Malts....

DW

Yeah that's a good idea. It's the only good Irish pub in town. All the Bostonians will feel right at home.

[shinomaster]

C.D. from Chris King mentioned a place called "Kells" and said they had great beer and Single Malts....

DW

Yeah that's a good idea. It's the only good Irish pub in town. All the Bostonians will feel right at home.

[coylifut]

Yeah that's a good idea. It's the only good Irish pub in town. All the Bostonians will feel right at home.

good food and walking distance to the venue as well.

[SoCalSteve]

I havent been to Portland since 1999, but isnt there a great beer house and German restaurant somewhere in the industrial area (by the river)? Owned by the Widmere Brothers...

Had a great meal there and they have beer sampling and root beer sampling as well.

We could cab it there ( I am thinking of coming up in 2008).

Just a thought,

Steve

[coylifut]

I havent been to Portland since 1999, but isnt there a great beer house and German restaurant somewhere in the industrial area (by the river)? Owned by the Widmere Brothers...

Had a great meal there and they have beer sampling and root beer sampling as well.

We could cab it there ( I am thinking of coming up in 2008).

Just a thought,

Steve

http://www.widmer.com/gasthaus.aspx

Portlanders are quite snobby about their haunts and Widmere is seen as a mass market craft brewer. With that said, Widmere still makes a very good wheat beer and the food's good and prices are in the typical brew pub range.

[roman meal]

good food and walking distance to the venue as well.


Let's do it.

[coylifut]

Let's do it.

We all have different ideas of what walking distance is. It's about 1 mile away.

[SoCalSteve]

http://www.widmer.com/gasthaus.aspx

Portlanders are quite snobby about their haunts and Widmere is seen as a mass market craft brewer. With that said, Widmere still makes a very good wheat beer and the food's good and prices are in the typical brew pub range.

I think in 1999 it was still considered a "local" place...I do remember that it was HARD to find, thats for sure!

Just a thought and yes, their wheat beer is great!!!

[coylifut]

I think in 1999 it was still considered a "local" place...I do remember that it was HARD to find, thats for sure!

Just a thought and yes, their wheat beer is great!!!

you know how it is, once a company starts growing up and spending some real $ on marketing, it's shunned as folks move on to the next new thing. it's a two mile cab ride from the venue.

funny thing this thread. not one person has mentioned getting together for a ride, but we sure have talked about food. Guilty as charged.

[Pete Serotta]

You mean it will not be raining??


you know how it is, once a company starts growing up and spending some real $ on marketing, it's shunned as folks move on to the next new thing. it's a two mile cab ride from the venue.

funny thing this thread. not one person has mentioned getting together for a ride, but we sure have talked about food. Guilty as charged.

[shinomaster]

you know how it is, once a company starts growing up and spending some real $ on marketing, it's shunned as folks move on to the next new thing. it's a two mile cab ride from the venue.

funny thing this thread. not one person has mentioned getting together for a ride, but we sure have talked about food. Guilty as charged.

I was just thinking that. Are any of these jokers bringing bikes?

[Pete Serotta]

Mine is already for a trip and ride.... S&S works well in wet or dry

SPOKES only rides his in sun and dry so someone will have to loan him a 55cm is it is wet... ;)
I was just thinking that. Are any of these jokers bringing bikes?

[shinomaster]

I could loan someone a cannondale. :) :) :) :) :)

[Pete Serotta]

I am up for a ride..........if folks want to ......naturally beer would be needed later. Cannondale is good!!

I could loan someone a cannondale. :) :) :) :) :)

[Ginger]

You mean it will not be raining??
What? Will you melt?

[Pete Serotta]

after the week to Montreal from Burlington - I am sure I will not melt or rust.

What? Will you melt?

[Ginger]

after the week to Montreal from Burlington - I am sure I will not melt or rust.

See? That's what I thought.
:)

As far as I know, I will not be bringing a bike with me.

[Serotta PETE]

I have found the "red" is an anti -rust solution. Come on down to RALEIGH and ride with SPOKES and I. Spokes has even been known to have a glass of red - but riding in the rain is not somethinig his bikes do.

See? That's what I thought.
:)

As far as I know, I will not be bringing a bike with me.

[coylifut]

You mean it will not be raining??

so, we ride anyway.

[SPOKE]

Mine is already for a trip and ride.... S&S works well in wet or dry

SPOKES only rides his in sun and dry so someone will have to loan him a 55cm is it is wet... ;)


i won't need to bring a bike. i'll have one waiting for me there!

[Ginger]

i won't need to bring a bike. i'll have one waiting for me there!
Yeah, but that one's working the show...it'll probably be busy looking pretty until Sunday afternoon.

:)

[SPOKE]

Yeah, but that one's working the show...it'll probably be busy looking pretty until Sunday afternoon.

:)

won't matter......i don't ride in the rain anyway :p