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Fixed
08-24-2007, 02:48 PM
bro does anyone know the campy rear de. friction with the back face it came out after the n. record ...well any way it kicks arse it shifts great just as good as index dura ace i replaced the d.a. with and it's friction no noise ..i put campy brakes on got rid of the 600's i'm almost all campy except for my d.t. shifters i need campy d.t. then i'll be set ..
cheers

Alexi
08-24-2007, 02:55 PM
i've got a pair of victory down tubes you can grab...

11.4
08-24-2007, 03:22 PM
After the all-silver Nuovo Record, the Super Record first came out in a version with titanium bolts and a curved bas relief cast front plate in black. This one was superseded fairly quickly by a similar version with a flat front plate in black with the Campy logo reversed in the anodizing -- no sculpting. Among vintage collectors, the first one is a good bit more valuable, but they were pretty much identical except for date stamps and the front plate. I actually liked the Nuovo Record better than the Super.

wasfast
08-24-2007, 03:24 PM
That would be Super Record. It actually came out in the mid 70's but was more widely used in the early 80's. C-Record was after that and still looks sharp to me (cranks, RD,FD, sidepull brakes). Never understood the Delta brakes...heavy, poor adjusting.

Polyglot
08-24-2007, 06:56 PM
After the all-silver Nuovo Record, the Super Record first came out in a version with titanium bolts and a curved bas relief cast front plate in black. This one was superseded fairly quickly by a similar version with a flat front plate in black with the Campy logo reversed in the anodizing -- no sculpting. Among vintage collectors, the first one is a good bit more valuable, but they were pretty much identical except for date stamps and the front plate. I actually liked the Nuovo Record better than the Super.


A few errors in this description. The first version of the Super Record was effectively a 'tuned' version of the Nuovo Record. The only practical difference was teh use of the two titanium pivot bolts. They also had black anodized body parts which was solely aesthetic. The front plate was quite similar to the Nuovo Record with the model name the writing in 'haut relief'. After 5 years, the first generation was supplanted by a second version that had not only a newer front plate where the Campagnolo name was painted on, but also completely redesigned cage plates. In fact, the 1978 onward version shifts quite differently from the Nuovo and first generation super record derailleurs.

alancw3
08-25-2007, 10:44 AM
this might help:
http://www.campyonly.com/history/timeline.html

as far as nuovo record goes, i use to be into vintage bikes and for my money nothing shifts smoother than nr. 1966-1967 go figure!

11.4
08-25-2007, 11:41 AM
The front plate was quite similar to the Nuovo Record with the model name the writing in 'haut relief'. .

This is the same thing I was referring to as "bas relief". The plate isn't precisely the same but so close that it isn't clear why they bothered. As Polyglot said, the only real difference was the addition of two titanium bolts.

[/QUOTE]In fact, the 1978 onward version shifts quite differently from the Nuovo and first generation super record derailleurs.[/QUOTE]

I haven't really seen a difference in shifting and I own all three versions (NR, 1st gen SR, 2nd gen SR). The spring tension seemed to decrease with the last version and didn't seem to tension the chain as well but it's very minor and possibly related to wear. Looking at them side by side, the cage angle is the same but the angle of approach for the cable housing is slightly different, necessitating a slightly longer housing, but with the longer housing the shifting is consistent with the prior version. There are some incredible Campy-philes out there. I just rode the stuff, but they can address the minutiae better than I. You sounded like you just wanted to be able to ride the rear derailleur and I can assure you that the Super Record rear derailleur continued the tradition of the Nuovo Record and worked very well.

wasfast
08-25-2007, 01:45 PM
I really dig the components from that era. Here's some pictures of a Colnago Super that I restored last fall:
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/garywatts/colnago_super_finished/

Fixed
08-25-2007, 02:00 PM
found the n r downtubes ahh sweet success ......thanks links.. that is nice nago bro
cheers :beer:

wasfast
08-25-2007, 05:58 PM
I finished that one and sold it. TIme for another project bike if I can find one at a decent price. These bikes seemed to have gone up considerably in the last 1-2 years. Under $500-600 in ok shape is hard to find now. That 'nago was $225 shipped...the guy that I got it from paid $125 for it!

Elefantino
08-26-2007, 03:59 AM
Fixed bro

Like this? (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-CAMPAGNOLO-SUPER-RECORD-REAR-DERAILLEUR-83_W0QQitemZ180152028240QQihZ008QQcategoryZ56197QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Fixed
08-26-2007, 08:52 PM
yeah bro that 's the baby ..i got the brake set and the down tubes shis.to match now
cheers :beer:

kestrel
08-27-2007, 04:34 AM
Here's a pic of both together:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/serotta/nandsrecordrears.jpg

thwart
08-27-2007, 10:11 AM
Colnago Super that I restored last fall: Yeow! That thing is clean enough to eat off of. Sorry to ask this, but is all that polished stuff "correct"?

wasfast
08-27-2007, 11:30 AM
Not factory restoration, just what I like. YMMV.

Fixed
08-27-2007, 11:38 AM
are things better now or was the the high point for cycling ?
cheers