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Climb01742
06-04-2007, 10:55 AM
check out stage 13 of '97 tour. and the four riders out front. think of the red blood cell count that day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n5GpUOENME&mode=related&search=

gt6267a
06-04-2007, 12:35 PM
j u looked pretty lean.

what wheels where ju and br riding?

regularguy412
06-04-2007, 12:57 PM
what wheels where ju and br riding?

He would prolly know.

Mike in AR

rhmiller
06-04-2007, 01:07 PM
think of the red blood cell count that day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n5GpUOENME&mode=related&search=

I can't count that "high"

Brendan Quirk
06-04-2007, 01:28 PM
Put the doping stuff aside, what strikes you most when you see the 1st 10 seconds of that video?

For me, it's this: It seems more right to fight for a TdF mountain stage with a cloth cap on, not a Giro. Speaking purely aesthetically, of course.

saab2000
06-04-2007, 01:36 PM
Put the doping stuff aside, what strikes you most when you see the 1st 10 seconds of that video?

For me, it's this: It seems more right to fight for a TdF mountain stage with a cloth cap on, not a Giro. Speaking purely aesthetically, of course.

You mean there's something other than cloth caps to wear on your head?

Grant McLean
06-04-2007, 01:51 PM
For me, it's this: It seems more right to fight for a TdF mountain stage with a cloth cap on, not a Giro. Speaking purely aesthetically, of course.

word. bring back the mtn top finish rule!

g

Keith A
06-04-2007, 02:04 PM
I miss Pantani :(

Erik.Lazdins
06-04-2007, 02:08 PM
word. bring back the mtn top finish rule!

g

The mountain top finish rule made sense - they should bring this back they need to bring this back.

amg
06-04-2007, 02:24 PM
I see at least three Pegoretti's.

mdeeds71
06-04-2007, 02:28 PM
I remember watching that...and even watching it today I don't think of the EPO etc...

Great climb and finish!

Elefantino
06-04-2007, 03:04 PM
Put the doping stuff aside, what strikes you most when you see the 1st 10 seconds of that video?

For me, it's this: It seems more right to fight for a TdF mountain stage with a cloth cap on, not a Giro. Speaking purely aesthetically, of course.

Andrei Kivilev would disagree, if he could.

Grant McLean
06-04-2007, 03:16 PM
Andrei Kivilev would disagree, if he could.

Sadly, he didn't disagree.


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neverraced
06-04-2007, 03:20 PM
None of them tested positive that day. As clean as Armstrong, every man jack of them.

flydhest
06-04-2007, 05:30 PM
Andrei Kivilev would disagree, if he could.

did Kivilev die on the last climb of a race?

Marron
06-04-2007, 05:47 PM
j u looked pretty lean.

what wheels where ju and br riding?

This may be a year or two early for the Heliums, but JU was riding them in 99 and possibly 98.

saab2000
06-04-2007, 05:51 PM
Riis was riding Ada carbon wheels and Ullrich on Campagnolo Shamals.

I think.

stevep
06-04-2007, 05:56 PM
instant epo tip.
long periods climbing out of the saddle.
better than some damn fool blood test that doesnt work.
pantani, virenque, texan, you pick 'em.