Steel Ciocc frame.....

[learlove]

Anyone have any info (ride quality wise) on this sttel ciocc frame...

I like relatively still and responsive ride. I hate headtube/toptube and bb flex.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CIOCC-Road-Bike-Frame-Size-51cm-Made-In-Italy_W0QQitemZ320093475311QQcategoryZ98084QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thanks

[AgilisMerlin]

snipped info:

enjoy


Zar,

i used to work for Roberto when in between colleges in the late 80's.

very nice frame, scarf it up

http://www.zarinternational.com/ciocccom125.html

Dedacciai changed the name of their tubesets so that Zero is now called SAT14.5 and ZeroUno is COM12.5, Good stuff either way.

Is this steel real?... TFerguson
Jan 28, 2004 6:28 PM
What's the story on Dedacciai Zero Uno steel? Super-light or tough long lasting?

Thanks,
TF
Good stuff Nessism
Jan 28, 2004 7:53 PM
ZeroUno uses a high grade of steel that is similar to Columbus Nivacrom – approx. 175 ksi tensile strength if this means anything to you. The tubes come in a couple of size configurations with the most popular being conventional oversize diameters so builders can use commonly available lugs. The tubes top and down tube are butted .8/.5/.8 mm with fairly short butts; not as short as Zero or Foco, but short none the less. The .5 mm center section is a smidge thin for those that trash their bikes and pile stuff on top of them in the garage. For a normal self-respecting rider, they are more than robust enough assuming the rider isn't a Clydesdale type.

The tubes have enough meat on them to stand up to heavy abuse without being overly flexi for riders of average build.

Good luck.

Ed

PS: My understanding is that Richard Sachs uses ZeroUno on a fair number of his frames. Need a higher endorsement than that?
re: Is this steel real?... t5rguy



http://info.product-finder.net/reparto/Ciocc-COM-12-5-Frameset.html

Ciocc was founded by master frame builder Giovanni Pellizoli. Throughout the years Ciocc has remained true to the craft of the artisan Italian frame builder style, and today Sig. Pellizoli’s apprentices, Stefano and Candido Bonati, continue in grand style. The meticulous lug work that highlighted frames of the 1970's and 80's has given way to precision welding and high tech carbon composite joinery, but the unmistakable attention to detail remains.

Beyond a mere production piece, every Ciocc is created with respect for the traditions of cycling and with a love for the road yet to be experienced.

Over-sized tubes, excellent craftsmanship and a competitive price make this the perfect frameset for the value minded enthusiast; Tig welded.

Frameset: Dedacciai COM 12.5 steel
Fork: Sintema S3 with 1" Cromoly Steerer Weight: Frame 1.70 kg .Fork 500 g
Specs: Fr. Deraill: Braze-on. Seatpost: 27.2 mm

Ciocc Traditional Geometry (center to center)
Seat Tube------Top Tube------Seat Angle
----47--------------51.5-------------74.5
----49--------------52.5-------------74.5
----51--------------53.5-------------74
----53--------------55---------------74
----54--------------55.5-------------73.5
----55--------------56---------------73.5
----56--------------57---------------73.5
----57--------------57.5-------------73
----58--------------58---------------73
----59--------------58.5-------------72.5
----61--------------59.5-------------72.5
----63--------------59.5-------------72.5

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